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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/03/2022 : 02:25:23
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quote: Originally posted by billgoodman
Other great quotes:
- we can make an album in a month (writing, two weeks of recording, and then mixing) - they just like Tom. They met for diner and within 5 minutes they knew it would work. Without hearing his stuff - Tom doesn't like country per se, he likes aggressive music, but the songs are what came out
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Really good interview!
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 03:55:00
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I read it as FBF saying that Paz recorded two lead vocals for a new album. Not sure, because it was Google Translate.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1334 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 04:05:31
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Ah I see, OK that's interesting, indicates they are well into things. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 04:24:11
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Yeah, maybe we will hear it sooner than later
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1017 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 05:10:22
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Looks like that interview happened in June. Can't imagine much has changed since then, unless they've recorded more between the Summer Europe tour and this autumn US leg. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 05:26:10
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That could be the case, but I'm sure they also like some time off (and Instagram photo's don't indicate anything else)
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1017 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 05:54:21
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Yes, I think it's much more likely they took a vacation. I suppose then that the most recent update would be from Joey and Dave's youtube interview where they talk about Charles's desire to record demoes. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2022 : 07:09:28
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Yes, but I thought Joey meant to say: Charles likes to do demos [in general] Not "he likes to do them now" but more a general approach he likes Not sure, I've only listened once
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1118 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2022 : 13:58:15
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Looks like Tom is in the US at recent shows. Gave Miles Mangino a Doggerel cake! More recordings/demos perhaps? |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2022 : 14:06:26
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quote: Originally posted by Stevio10
Gave Miles Mangino a Doggerel cake!
The dirty buggers
Honestly I have no idea who the hell Miles Mangino is - but that made me chortle anyway |
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
USA
954 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2022 : 19:34:29
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quote: Originally posted by pot
I'm struggling to figure out what's so "Americana" about Human Crime?
FB played it for the first time live on that John Ennis-related fundraiser, it was acoustic, 1/2 the speed of the full band version, very sitting on the porch strumming at twilight. I lost the recording of it, maybe someone else here still has it.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2022 : 21:56:27
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quote: Originally posted by matto
quote: Originally posted by pot
I'm struggling to figure out what's so "Americana" about Human Crime?
FB played it for the first time live on that John Ennis-related fundraiser, it was acoustic, 1/2 the speed of the full band version, very sitting on the porch strumming at twilight. I lost the recording of it, maybe someone else here still has it.
I'd buy that for a dollar |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2022 : 23:47:26
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Miles is their sound/light-guy Also records them from time to time
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1017 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2022 : 06:20:14
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quote: Originally posted by matto
quote: Originally posted by pot
I'm struggling to figure out what's so "Americana" about Human Crime?
FB played it for the first time live on that John Ennis-related fundraiser, it was acoustic, 1/2 the speed of the full band version, very sitting on the porch strumming at twilight. I lost the recording of it, maybe someone else here still has it.
-------- baby poop, curry
The lyrics are very country, which I thought at first listen, and I could easily imagine a honkey tonk steel petal all over the chorus. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2022 : 11:25:10
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EDIT first post: a lot of good songs were put aside for Doggerel because they didn't fit the recipe of the record. Says FBF in the French Rolling Stone
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2022 : 13:04:02
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quote: Originally posted by billgoodman
EDIT first post: a lot of good songs were put aside for Doggerel because they didn't fit the recipe of the record. Says FBF in the French Rolling Stone
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Explains his anger (or maybe extreme annoyance) at Tom for wanting to fart around with chicken scratches in the margins and half baked ideas instead of all the other songs in the notebook at the Number 9 session. No wonder it wound up on the roof.
I had a bad reaction to your public hobby writings. |
Edited by - johnnyribcage on 10/12/2022 13:04:34 |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2022 : 13:14:22
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Haha
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 08:59:44
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Updated first post Band picked 16 songs of the 40 demos So there are 4 more Doggerel Session songs (Not sure how complete of course)
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3146 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 11:02:22
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quote: Originally posted by billgoodman
Updated first post Band picked 16 songs of the 40 demos So there are 4 more Doggerel Session songs (Not sure how complete of course)
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That is very cool to know. Will be curious to see if they save them for alubm no. 9 or release them as B-sides |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 12:15:11
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Yeah a stand alone single like Hear me out, would be nice A (streaming) deluxe version of Doggerel with more songs would be a good option To go along with the tour in 2023
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1334 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 12:40:57
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I picked up on that in the latest Paz interview that got posted. There is still at least one BTE song (Grow Fins) that is still to appear.
Taking
Bam Thwok Ain't that pretty at all Women of war Hear me out Mambo Sun Grow Fins Que sera sera Human Crime
we are already over half way to a Pixies 2.0 Bside record
Hopefully we get to hear these extra 4 from the Doggerel sessions one day (along with Super Lecker of course ) |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 12:52:09
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There are way more songs recorded but not released
Los Muchateros The whole of the law Alice prinn
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
955 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 15:00:17
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I also recall from the Pixies podcast that they were working on Caught in a Dream at the official BTE sessions, but unsure if it ever got finished. |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2022 : 15:36:08
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quote: Originally posted by Sprite
I picked up on that in the latest Paz interview that got posted. There is still at least one BTE song (Grow Fins) that is still to appear.
Taking
Bam Thwok Ain't that pretty at all Women of war Hear me out Mambo Sun Grow Fins Que sera sera Human Crime
we are already over half way to a Pixies 2.0 Bside record
Hopefully we get to hear these extra 4 from the Doggerel sessions one day (along with Super Lecker of course )
Grow Fins would be a Captain Beefheart cover, no?
I had a bad reaction to your public hobby writings. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1334 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2022 : 01:04:39
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Yes that's correct, I remember it being mentioned on the BTE podcasts (can't recall if there is an actual clip of it). My list was only meant to be songs that we are certain there are recordings of. The three you mention
Los Muchateros The whole of the law Alice prinn
I recognise from those old threads on BMI entries. But we do know for certain they are finished tunes in the vault?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2022 : 07:50:55
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Nope, this was from memory
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2022 : 00:53:28
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quote: Originally posted by billgoodman
There are way more songs recorded but not released
Los Muchateros The whole of the law Alice prinn
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Always interested to hear about 'Alice Prinn'. Do we know what sessions this was recorded in?
Wonder if 'Down in Toulon' made it past the demo stage too. The band brought it up a few times (nearly playing it for a short performance) in the run up to Head Carrier. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2022 : 02:57:38
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Picpic says in that thread: Toulon & Drive have been recorded. They were on this chart from the "Pixies 2016" trailer back in January. B-Sides maybe ?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2022 : 02:58:19
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One of those could be Silver Bullet (which was recorded for Head Carrier, and had new drums for BTE)
Bogman turned into Long Rider
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3146 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2022 : 04:22:34
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Thank you Bill for the links
Where do O Little Cloud, The Wolves Came Out, and… can’t remember, fit into the chronology? |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1118 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2022 : 04:56:59
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Cloud, Wolves and Um Chagga Lagga were a happy Halloween from blackfrancis.net around 2014 (not too sure of the year) - demos with Jeremy Dubs on drums.
The file name was 'Super Lecker Mastered' so presume there's an albums worth of demos from then. Funny just posted in the abandoned projects then saw this! I'm sure Cloud has been recorded by Pixies - I remember a BF post on social media with Pixified music of cloud. I've tried to find it recently but no luck, maybe I invented it ha, though I still really would love to hear any version of O Little Cloud. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1334 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2022 : 06:38:35
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Oh man Pixies version of O Little Cloud would be great! |
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