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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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 Posted - 08/19/2024 : 11:09:55
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Originally posted by auxfnx
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Originally posted by Mad Lucas
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Originally posted by Brank_Flack
For me Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and Nick Cave would be the gold standards for writing into your late 50s and beyond. Their late albums are either on par, or at the very least in conversation with their youthful peaks.
I think an important part of being in the Cult of Frank is sticking with a songwriter who, as good as his middle-to-later years are, had a pretty drastic decline after TOTY. The difference from that run to Cult of Ray-FB&C-Pistolero is massive, even if you like that material. As much as I love Dog in the Sand/Black Letter Days/Honeycomb/Bluefinger/BTE, etc. etc. there has been plenty of hit-and-miss ever since (even on those records), but we all love his quirks/idiosyncrasies as a cult songwriter. This is all to say that I don't think taking the good with the bad is not necessarily new to late Pixies 2.0 fandom.
I think the more interesting critical comparisons, which have been made above, aren't Pixies 2.0 with Pixies 1.0, but with the Catholics/Nashville/Black Francis eras.
I would put Kristin Hersh up there with FBF for contemporary artists putting out gold into their 50s.
It's not the fault of either that they defined a genre in their 20s and thus their contemporary work is seen as comfortable. That's my view anyway. There's going to be strong and weak points but they will always be worth giving serious consideration.
i think Kristin's recent output has been incredible. she's still trying new and weird stuff. she has a very idiosyncratic style but i don't think she's repeated herself much once you get past that. the last solo record was fantastic and Throwing Muses are working on another new one!
It's hit or miss for me, but so is FBF's.
Her voice is more and more an acquired taste, don't you think?
It used to be a lot sweeter.
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
985 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2024 : 12:09:34
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| There's a snippet of a new song on Instagram - sounds a bit Undertones-y to me but that's off the back of four or five seconds of music. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 08/19/2024 : 18:30:09
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I like those 5 seconds! Like, a lot
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cptnpasty
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1102 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2024 : 12:06:46
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| Undertonesy (great word!) describes it very well :) |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1275 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2024 : 07:33:01
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Yes have to agree on the Undertones which is a good thing in my book.
By the way looks like another new song alert on Pixies Twitter. Oyster Beds going from the emojis I think. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/21/2024 : 07:39:19
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Originally posted by Sprite
Yes have to agree on the Understones which is a good thing in my book.
By the way looks like another new song alert on Pixies Twitter. Oyster Beds going from the emojis I think.
And rallies with Oyster Beds being one of the punkier ones, according to the PR material.
Nice excerpt of Motoroller being played in Glasgow last night. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/21/2024 : 07:42:01
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| Do you mean new song Motoroller was played in the set?? |
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~
United Kingdom
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6114 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2024 : 12:17:43
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Originally posted by Active Duck
There's a clip on the pixies fb group...
https://www.facebook.com/reel/485013270966743
Sound very FBF, which is always good
Nice Joey-lick
This could be a nice addition
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
985 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 04:44:49
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| Instagram page is rightfully getting a lot of flak for using AI. Their marketing / promotion work generally annoys me so this is just the latest silly thing. |
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
953 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 06:00:00
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Originally posted by The Maharal
Instagram page is rightfully getting a lot of flak for using AI. Their marketing / promotion work generally annoys me so this is just the latest silly thing.
I'm pretty sure I've read Charles himself critique their social media accounts in an interview or two (for being a bit embarrassing/over-enthusiastic/using emojis, etc.) but is content to let marketing do its own thing. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6114 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 07:09:42
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Originally posted by The Maharal
Instagram page is rightfully getting a lot of flak for using AI. Their marketing / promotion work generally annoys me so this is just the latest silly thing.
Can you give me some insight? I'm on their instagram now and I don't see any flak? Or extensive use of AI
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
985 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 07:52:31
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| They deleted the post. It was an oyster with the Pixies logo or something inside. AI-generated. All the comments were people criticising the decision to choose AI over paying an artist to make something. |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
878 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 13:22:59
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1656 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 14:44:52
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| I think AI visual art tends to have a kind of obvious look to it. But I'm not sure how to explain it... like an artificial shiny look or something. |
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natenate101
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
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878 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 15:24:01
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Originally posted by Skatealex1
I think AI visual art tends to have a kind of obvious look to it. But I'm not sure how to explain it... like an artificial shiny look or something.
I know, but I just wanted specifics about this. I didn't see the post or any of the backlash. I'm extremely curious. |
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auxfnx
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Posted - 08/22/2024 : 15:26:56
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
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Originally posted by Skatealex1
I think AI visual art tends to have a kind of obvious look to it. But I'm not sure how to explain it... like an artificial shiny look or something.
I know, but I just wanted specifics about this. I didn't see the post or any of the backlash. I'm extremely curious.
it was just like a photo studio image of an oyster, and the pearl on the inside had a Pixies logo on it
Re: the new track, I really like it! Love the energy, very TLM, they used a similar vocal effect as they do on the likes of Planet of Sound, etc. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6114 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 16:04:26
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What a great vocal by Frank
Fun little song
You're so impatient sounds better with it
Record is shaping up nicely
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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881 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 17:47:44
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Originally posted by auxfnx
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
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Originally posted by Skatealex1
I think AI visual art tends to have a kind of obvious look to it. But I'm not sure how to explain it... like an artificial shiny look or something.
I know, but I just wanted specifics about this. I didn't see the post or any of the backlash. I'm extremely curious.
it was just like a photo studio image of an oyster, and the pearl on the inside had a Pixies logo on it
Re: the new track, I really like it! Love the energy, very TLM, they used a similar vocal effect as they do on the likes of Planet of Sound, etc.
Definitely hear TLM as well. I like his delivery. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/22/2024 : 19:17:42
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1656 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 20:03:41
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| Think this might be my favorite new Pixies song in a while. |
Edited by - Skatealex1 on 08/22/2024 20:06:06 |
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cptnpasty
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1275 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 23:19:25
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1102 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2024 : 23:25:22
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| Reminds me of Isla De Encanta a little. Nice imagery, doesn't outstay it's welcome. The dry drums are slowly winning me over. |
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cptnpasty
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/23/2024 : 00:30:03
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No worries, it reminded me I need to read some more Muriel Spark!
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QuaBear
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Posted - 08/23/2024 : 05:12:42
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| Yeh, there is something effortless about Oyster Beds....very Trompe Le Monde, but also very Pixies... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6114 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2024 : 06:15:56
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I could listen to Frank singing songs like this all day
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6114 Posts |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/23/2024 : 06:42:01
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| Ah man I wanna to listen this so bad. But I am going to resist.... I want 11 Virgin tunes when I get my mits on the record. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/23/2024 : 06:42:58
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| Actually 10.5 seen as I heard Vegas Suite live already! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6114 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2024 : 06:59:29
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Looking forward to the recording of VS
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oddball
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Posted - 08/23/2024 : 07:04:10
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I'm trying to resist the urge as well. Much easier said than done. For those that have listened to the live clip of Motoroller, what's it sound like? Any comparables to FB's body of work? I'm trying to hold off on listening to that one, but am trying to get a better sense for what it might sound like.
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The Night The Zombies Came
