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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/06/2022 :  10:52:30  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hacienda
Lion Tamers

Just the way he sings those words....love it

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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 09/06/2022 :  15:19:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, first reaction is there's a lot more than a moon going on in this one.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/07/2022 :  08:53:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems like Dregs of the Wine is getting some of the best reviews of the first batch of 3 Doggerel tunes.

I would say it's also a nominee for the best song title thread.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
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Posted - 09/07/2022 :  09:45:38  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's got a bit of a bluefinger era feel to it
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/07/2022 :  10:00:20  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

Seems like Dregs of the Wine is getting some of the best reviews of the first batch of 3 Doggerel tunes.

I would say it's also a nominee for the best song title thread.



I'm nerding out on Doggerel and I have to admit that Vault of Heaven and this one get some really good response on social media.

Just one or two No Kim No Deal-reactions but a lot of praise for BTE and this new songs

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

996 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2022 :  10:39:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a lot better than the other two. Though the blandness of the lyrics still make me a bit sad, particularly the chorus.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/07/2022 :  10:45:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

Seems like Dregs of the Wine is getting some of the best reviews of the first batch of 3 Doggerel tunes.

I would say it's also a nominee for the best song title thread.



I'm nerding out on Doggerel and I have to admit that Vault of Heaven and this one get some really good response on social media.

Just one or two No Kim No Deal-reactions but a lot of praise for BTE and this new songs

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Re: the "no Kim" stuff - "What year is this?" -a certain FBI agent
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  04:42:42  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
https://recordcollectormag.com/reviews/album/doggerel

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  07:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely better than Moon and Vault
A part of it sounds like The Who, that's right
Really like the spoken part (reminiscent of Indie Cindy?) and the unexpected tonal transposition in the chorus
Lyrics are still meh

--
"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"
"Fucking up my devotion!"
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  07:41:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pixie punk

https://recordcollectormag.com/reviews/album/doggerel

PUERTO RICO PIXIE



Sounds positive.

Will anyone ever review an FBF record without comparing it to SR?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  09:34:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

quote:
Originally posted by pixie punk

https://recordcollectormag.com/reviews/album/doggerel

PUERTO RICO PIXIE



Sounds positive.

Will anyone ever review an FBF record without comparing it to SR?



"Glorious" and "return to form"

Hype train choo choo!

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  10:10:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Uncut is pretty positive:
https://archive.org/details/uncut-uk-october-2022/page/n29/mode/2up

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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  11:53:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To be fair, if I were to voice a criticism of the lyrics I would say that it’s a little unsettling to hear the phrase “make love to you” coming from the lips of Black Francis. Maybe I’m off about that
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 09/12/2022 :  11:53:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice to see some positive reviews but I am frustrated, it's nearly 3 weeks till the album is out! I don' remember reviews for other 3 Pixies 2.0 come out this far ahead of the release date. Or have I got that wrong? Maybe the BTE podcast clouded my memory.
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1019 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2022 :  14:14:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

To be fair, if I were to voice a criticism of the lyrics I would say that it’s a little unsettling to hear the phrase “make love to you” coming from the lips of Black Francis. Maybe I’m off about that



In all honesty it's pretty mild after hearing him singing "inside of you, all the way, everday" or "when I go down on you", haha. Both good songs in my book!

Glad to see the album is getting some positive reviews - although I have to disagree with Uncut's diss of Blue Eyed Hexe, which is an absolute banger.
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QuaBear
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USA
66 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2022 :  08:53:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://vwmusicrocks.com/pixies-studio-albums-ranked/

Albums ranked with recent doggerel
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QuaBear
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USA
66 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2022 :  08:54:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://nowthenmagazine.com/record-reviews/pixies-doggerel-black-francis

Doggerel review
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1335 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2022 :  11:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by QuaBear

https://vwmusicrocks.com/pixies-studio-albums-ranked/

Albums ranked with recent doggerel



Ranked 3rd after Doolittle and Surfer Rosa. That is what I would call a bold move....
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
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Posted - 09/21/2022 :  12:23:01  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In the car today and VoH comes on the radio - the old unexpected familiarity mind trick - sounded good and gave me a bit of a buzz for a while, until around the end of the song when the goofy la la la voice comes to ruin everything. What were they thinking?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/21/2022 :  22:34:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

In the car today and VoH comes on the radio - the old unexpected familiarity mind trick - sounded good and gave me a bit of a buzz for a while, until around the end of the song when the goofy la la la voice comes to ruin everything. What were they thinking?



It's goofy and tacky, not my favorite bit.
But those vocals are a bit burried.
Could be fun with an extra guitar, or some percussion added.
You know, since they play that bit like 4 times in a row

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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/22/2022 :  02:34:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vault is a real Frankenstein’s monster, but I’ve been digging it. The stanzas sound like a rehash of a Head Carrier track, maybe Plaster of Paris or something else on side b? The la’s or ah’s or whatever they are sound fine to me.
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1019 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  05:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no problem with the la la la's. The doubling down of the Seven Eleven being "pretty great" lyric is what sticks out to me.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  06:27:00  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The La La LA’s remind me of BagBoy - which to be fair in the context of a recent fresh head relisten sounded better on the album compared to the first time I heard it - I think it’s a slightly less shouty version and the shouty bits come in just at the end instead of the beginning

Anyway I think I figured out why VoH sounded better when it came on the radio when I was driving than when I first heard it - same thing happened with one of the BTE initial promo tracks only this time it was in the context of cooking in the kitchen - a daily chore which often goes well with uplifting music

If I hear a new Pixies song as a promo then I’m judging it in the context of the Pixies back catalogue, which has set the bar pretty high - whereas if it comes on Radio 6 when I’m not expecting it then I’m judging it in the context of the general run of the mill dross you get on the radio where less than one in three songs are worth listening to. What this basically means is whatever the album is like, it might not be up there with the 1.0 stuff but at least it will be better than most shite coming out these days
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 09/22/2022 :  07:56:44  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

In the car today and VoH comes on the radio - the old unexpected familiarity mind trick - sounded good and gave me a bit of a buzz for a while, until around the end of the song when the goofy la la la voice comes to ruin everything. What were they thinking?



Literally the only thing I like in the song.

Edited by - Troubles A Foot on 09/22/2022 07:58:21
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  08:04:48  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You only like the La’s?
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 09/22/2022 :  08:22:32  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah. I find the song pretty boring. The Las perk my ears up. I'm having trouble understanding what's so offensive about them, seems like a pretty standard Pixies kind of thing to me.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  08:31:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by QuaBear

https://nowthenmagazine.com/record-reviews/pixies-doggerel-black-francis

Doggerel review



Doolittle and Surfer Rosa first.

Trompe Le Monde no. 7.


Give me a break...


Any ranking list which does not feature Trompe Le Monde no. 1, followed by many blank lines, is not to be taken seriously.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 09/22/2022 :  09:46:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

quote:
Originally posted by QuaBear

https://nowthenmagazine.com/record-reviews/pixies-doggerel-black-francis

Doggerel review



Doolittle and Surfer Rosa first.

Trompe Le Monde no. 7.


Give me a break...


Any ranking list which does not feature Trompe Le Monde no. 1, followed by many blank lines, is not to be taken seriously.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band



I pretty much agree with this
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

996 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  10:22:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I ended up in... army crates. I keep wanting to sing that.

Not a huge fan of the la la las myself - just sounds like them Pixies-ifying things too much.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  10:47:55  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot

Yeah. I find the song pretty boring. The Las perk my ears up. I'm having trouble understanding what's so offensive about them, seems like a pretty standard Pixies kind of thing to me.



The La’s are just a bit too Tellytubbies, otherwise I’m not against La’s in general
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/22/2022 :  12:38:23  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Saw a very negative review of Doggerel in a Dutch music magazine
Same kind of review they are always getting since Indie Cindy



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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1335 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  14:36:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

I ended up in... army crates. I keep wanting to sing that.




Would have pleased many if they did that.
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TheScooper
- FB Fan -

USA
187 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2022 :  20:39:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/review/2022/09/23/pixies-doggerel-ripping-up-the-country-songbook-and-spitting-it-out/
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 09/22/2022 :  21:07:33  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheScooper

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/review/2022/09/23/pixies-doggerel-ripping-up-the-country-songbook-and-spitting-it-out/



Wow, apart from that Dutch review, all reviews have been very positive

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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1019 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2022 :  05:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone want to place bets/guesses on what the metacritic score will be for this one? This doesn't mean what you think the album will deserve, but what the average critical score/consensus will be.

Indie Cindy had a 62
Head Carrier a 64
Beneath the Eyrie a 70

I'm think somewhere between 72-74, so I'll say 73.
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