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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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 Posted - 07/13/2022 : 15:08:35
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COR is at the bottom FBF for me
Sorry no
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 07/13/2022 : 15:56:39
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 07/13/2022 : 21:25:49
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Something has to be at the bottom
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TheScooper
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Posted - 07/15/2022 : 22:51:37
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
Why do they even let Tom pick the songs?? Why HIM? What makes him so special? Why can't the band do that, or even just Charles? I'm convinced Tom has no idea what makes the Pixies interesting. Honestly, after that last podcast episode I'm firmly in the anti-Tom camp. He's made himself the 5th Pixie, or worse, the leader of the band, and he has very mediocre musical tastes, and leans incredibly formulaic in every decision. Get him away from Pixies albums!
I know that may sound alarmist. But it's really strange to me how much control he has over the band. I would never let anybody else pick my tracklist on my album. That stuff is sacred to me. A hugely important part of my creative outlet. Not saying I wouldn't ask for advice or opinions from others, but at the end of the day it's my decision when my name is on my album.
It seems to me Tom wants to make VERY accessible, very straight and cohesive albums from the songs he gets.
Pixies are not cohesive! The wildness of their albums is part of the fun! You need weird shit that maybe should be b-sides, you need experiments, you need the album to veer off a cliff or zig and zag sharply. BTE, these are good songs, but as a record it's just like everything is exactly what and where you would expect.
This is EXACTLY my thoughts. Knowing (to a certain degree) some of the songs he has "rejected," in favor of some of the thuddingly conventional songs he has selected...and according to this latest podcast ep some of the decisions he's made within songs (looking at you spooky organ) ... I am really just dying to hear a new Pixies record from basically any other producer |
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jake3
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2022 : 12:36:13
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Originally posted by jake3
Has this been posted already? The official set of lyrics to 'Doggerel': https://www.herfitzpr.net/pixies-doggerel-lyrics
Great find
Some big words and some smaller ones
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 07/21/2022 : 03:39:00
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Originally posted by TheScooper
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
Why do they even let Tom pick the songs?? Why HIM? What makes him so special? Why can't the band do that, or even just Charles? I'm convinced Tom has no idea what makes the Pixies interesting. Honestly, after that last podcast episode I'm firmly in the anti-Tom camp. He's made himself the 5th Pixie, or worse, the leader of the band, and he has very mediocre musical tastes, and leans incredibly formulaic in every decision. Get him away from Pixies albums!
I know that may sound alarmist. But it's really strange to me how much control he has over the band. I would never let anybody else pick my tracklist on my album. That stuff is sacred to me. A hugely important part of my creative outlet. Not saying I wouldn't ask for advice or opinions from others, but at the end of the day it's my decision when my name is on my album.
It seems to me Tom wants to make VERY accessible, very straight and cohesive albums from the songs he gets.
Pixies are not cohesive! The wildness of their albums is part of the fun! You need weird shit that maybe should be b-sides, you need experiments, you need the album to veer off a cliff or zig and zag sharply. BTE, these are good songs, but as a record it's just like everything is exactly what and where you would expect.
This is EXACTLY my thoughts. Knowing (to a certain degree) some of the songs he has "rejected," in favor of some of the thuddingly conventional songs he has selected...and according to this latest podcast ep some of the decisions he's made within songs (looking at you spooky organ) ... I am really just dying to hear a new Pixies record from basically any other producer
You know that old Albini quote... "Their willingness to be 'guided' by their manager, their record company and their producers is unparalleled. Never have I seen four cows more anxious to be led around by their nose rings."
Denis
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2022 : 03:57:23
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FBF just doesn't care too much
He has a better career than Albini (I guess)
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
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817 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2022 : 06:34:25
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You know that old Albini quote... "Their willingness to be 'guided' by their manager, their record company and their producers is unparalleled. Never have I seen four cows more anxious to be led around by their nose rings."
I actually have thought of this after that last podcast, and even did some searching for more quotes from Albini.
I think that's very forgivable for such a young band. They were probably overwhelmed by the idea of making their first album. I made my first album a few years ago and I was intimidated and kind of afraid to say no to the producer at times.
But after Frank's solo career, his independence, the Catholics where he did whatever the fuck he wanted, and then his incredibly creative and rocking Black Francis period...?? I just don't get it. |
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rivum
= Cult of Ray =
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256 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2022 : 07:05:32
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Originally posted by jake3
Has this been posted already? The official set of lyrics to 'Doggerel': https://www.herfitzpr.net/pixies-doggerel-lyrics
good find indeed.
Interesting that all songs are credited to Francis except for Dregs Of The Wine, which is Santiago/Francis.
Does that imply that Santiago contributed lyrics?? |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/21/2022 : 07:36:43
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Originally posted by rivum
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Originally posted by jake3
Has this been posted already? The official set of lyrics to 'Doggerel': https://www.herfitzpr.net/pixies-doggerel-lyrics
good find indeed.
Interesting that all songs are credited to Francis except for Dregs Of The Wine, which is Santiago/Francis.
Does that imply that Santiago contributed lyrics??
I believe Joey said that he co-wrote his first Pixies song somewhere on the podcast, but I could be mistaken |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2022 : 07:53:47
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He wrote the chords of one (Dregs of the wine) and I believe some words on the other
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/21/2022 : 12:44:29
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Originally posted by billgoodman
He wrote the chords of one (Dregs of the wine) and I believe some words on the other
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Joey wrote the lyrics to'Pagan Man' |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 07/22/2022 : 04:00:10
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^ Sounds a lot more promising. Expectations of the album were very low with TAMO.
Someone on the Facebook group posted The Everybody album. Actually completely forgot about its existenceuntil now but I remember playing the album a lot on its release. Some very nice tracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4BNa3zdvcw&ab_channel=CrapahuteurMusical |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 07/22/2022 : 04:37:02
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We got more Pixies for our Buck in them days - can't remember what songs I liked on that album I'll have to listen to it again
Mind they also recorded a sort of Xmas song with Joey's young daughters at the time singing - Snow In LA is was called? I liked that |
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Bedbug
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2022 : 07:37:46
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 07/22/2022 : 09:50:20
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
910 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2022 : 11:20:23
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TheScooper
- FB Fan -
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176 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2022 : 21:56:31
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2022 : 02:00:32
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2022 : 07:18:36
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I don't get the reference
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 07/23/2022 : 10:56:20
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| Oh right that Jim. Karen's old man, right? |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2022 : 14:03:08
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Thanks, never heard of it!
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
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817 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2022 : 14:10:44
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/23/2022 : 15:34:04
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| Zurich show looks like a nice tidy 31 tunes, mainly classics with a few 2.0s sprinkled in. |
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TheScooper
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/23/2022 : 19:56:51
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I don't think I'm going to listen to the clip of the new song, but for those who have - any impressions?
Based on the 50 seconds in the video it was sounding extremely Catholics-y to my ears, with a little sprinkle of Plaster of Paris. We'll see how the recording sounds! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2022 : 22:42:30
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Originally posted by Bedbug
Zurich show looks like a nice tidy 31 tunes, mainly classics with a few 2.0s sprinkled in.
I guess that setlist is incomplete
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
910 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2022 : 12:43:54
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
I just wanted to say I also did not get the reference. I'm pretty well versed in online culture stuff...
To be clear, I also didn't get the reference but found it after searching online (to my amusement). I didn't mean to suggest that I couldn't tell if they were being ironic because they didn't get what should have been an obvious reference, but rather because not getting online references seems to be a common refrain in the Jim posts. As such (a) either they were making a clever reference to these posts, or (b) just didn't get the reference. I posted the link in case of (b) but hedged the possibility of irony in case of (a). |
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tamefan
- FB Fan -
Canada
183 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2022 : 12:49:28
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Red Hot Chili Peppers have announced a new album to release 2 weeks after Doggerel; a salve to heal whatever misery I worry this new record is likely to inflict. Other than Charles, I think Frusciante is the most prolific musician I follow -- he once released 6 LPs in one year (2004). And he's putting out 34 new songs in 2022 (via RHCP); Charles, not nearly so many. What's the difference? Motivation? Charles did say there's another record in the works, but will it be another 12 tracker? Why can't Pixies put out 17 tracks like RHCP do? Or the 15 tracks, which used to be Pixies standard? How much of the new music is creative ambition versus an excuse to go on tour (and pay bills/build a nest egg)? I'm fine with financial motivations, but I wish we knew, so I could calibrate my expectations accordingly.
Edit: 35 songs, maybe 36! I forgot about those Japanese bonus tracks. |
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
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910 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2022 : 13:22:14
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6012 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2022 : 22:19:19
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Originally posted by Brank_Flack
I haven't been a RCHP fan since my teen years so I can't speak for them, but, re: Pixies: I imagine it has something to do with Charles' using painting as a creative outlet + the new economic reality where tours rather than records are what make money. He often says that he writes in a workmanlike fashion when songs need to be written for records, but it seems their manager would prefer only one new record ever 2-3 years.
Excellent. FBF is just waiting for a sign.
He's no longer like Robert Pollard who still says "I like to write songs"
Two or three records a year! And he also works on his collages
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 07/25/2022 : 01:49:59
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Originally posted by tamefan
Red Hot Chili Peppers have announced a new album to release 2 weeks after Doggerel; a salve to heal whatever misery I worry this new record is likely to inflict.
You mean thee RHCP who haven't released anything worth listening to since about 1991? |
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