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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
 Posted - 12/16/2020 : 09:55:00
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| Surely Snake Oil has to go next?!? |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2020 : 18:10:14
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Edited by - coastline on 12/17/2020 04:54:54 |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2020 : 18:13:33
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Snake Oil.
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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 01:16:40
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| I've been trying to post the artwork for SSMVGD by the way but because this forum is so vintage, I cant work out how to do it... |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 05:03:36
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You need to upload the cover to a photo-hosting site, like Imgur, and then copy the Imgur link and place it between img tags. Like this:
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Originally posted by ricj
I've been trying to post the artwork for SSMVGD by the way but because this forum is so vintage, I cant work out how to do it...
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Edited by - coastline on 12/17/2020 05:05:29 |
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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 07:57:00
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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 07:57:46
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| It only exists in super lo-res but should be fine when shrunken to thumbnail size like all the rest... |
Edited by - ricj on 12/18/2020 08:53:16 |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11674 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 11:25:20
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Well, if Brank Flack can put aside his Pistolero quest, I can put aside my quest for less font-driven covers and also go Paley-Francis. To be, well, generous, it is somewhat prescient of a socially distanced COVID-friendly band cover. But, literally two photos side by side with text on top does seem like it could go.
 "If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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Jamie
- FB Fan -
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 17:03:39
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Isn't that SSMVGD cover fan-made though?
Also you guys are crazy, Paley & Francis is one of the better covers in the catalog. Maybe not top 5, but probably top 10. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 17:13:32
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You're crazy, Jamie! Bottom 5!
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Originally posted by Jamie
Also you guys are crazy, Paley & Francis is one of the better covers in the catalog. Maybe not top 5, but probably top 10.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2020 : 17:15:07
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When this is all over, we should have a contest to make better designs of some of these ones we're voting off early.
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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 02:05:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie
Isn't that SSMVGD cover fan-made though?
Also you guys are crazy, Paley & Francis is one of the better covers in the catalog. Maybe not top 5, but probably top 10.
Yes it was fan made, possibly by the people who received the couple of tapes handed out by the man himself. But it's the only cover that exists. It possibly shouldn't be included in the list though as it's not strictly an official release.
And I don't know if I agree that agree Paley and Francis is one of the better covers but it's CERTAINLY better than Snake Oil!!! |
Edited by - ricj on 12/18/2020 02:06:21 |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 07:01:00
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Round 7 seems to have a light voter turnout from what I can decipher. Results are:
Paley Francis - 3
Snake Oil - 2
Would I be guilty of fascism if I just got rid of both of them this round? I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I don't think Snake Oil will survive much longer anyway. Okay, it's done.
Round 8, typically an unpredictable round, starts now and ends in about 48 hours. Choose wisely.
Gone:
Frank Black and the Catholics
Cult of Ray
Indie Cindy
Petit Fours
Let The People Speak
One More Road for the Hit
Honeycomb
Paley & Francis
Snake Oil
Still surviving:
Come on Pilgrim
Surfer Rosa
Doolittle
Bossanova
Trompe Le Monde
B-Sides
Frank Black Self-Titled
TOTY
Oddballs
Pistolero
Dog in the Sand
Black Letter Days
Devil's Workshop
Show Me Your Tears
FMRM
Christmass
Bluefinger
SVN Fingers
Golem
NSE
Abbabubba
Head Carrier
Beneath the Eyrie |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
817 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 07:44:58
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| Paley and Francis, just nothing artistic about it at all. Like even some of the bad covers feel...artistic to me. That's just two dudes standing around looking mildly bored. |
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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 08:51:09
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Abbabubba for me. I can't stand the song and I think I've listened to the album about once which makes me dislike the cover even more...
No problem with Paley & Francis myself - just two lads looking good in their suits. Never felt like that album needed anything more complicated than that. |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
817 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 09:58:31
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The Abbabubba cover perfectly captures the nature of the album: here are some fun doodles I did to amuse myself.
I guess one could argue the Paley cover captures that album: hey I'm hanging out with my buddy Paley, just hanging out dude |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 10:12:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
Paley and Francis, just nothing artistic about it at all. Like even some of the bad covers feel...artistic to me. That's just two dudes standing around looking mildly bored.
We voted off Paley and Francis last round, so feel free to pick another album unless you really dislike this one that much. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 10:14:14
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Originally posted by ricj
Abbabubba for me. I can't stand the song and I think I've listened to the album about once which makes me dislike the cover even more...
No problem with Paley & Francis myself - just two lads looking good in their suits. Never felt like that album needed anything more complicated than that.
While I agree with you that the Abbabubba cover is not the best, how in the world you can say you've listened to this album just one time is beyond me. There are some great tunes and pure FB on this album. See everyone, playing survivor is how we get to know one another and yet still remain one big happy forum. |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
817 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 10:17:33
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
910 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2020 : 16:47:43
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| ^ My man. Make that two Pistos. |
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ricj
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 03:14:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
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Originally posted by ricj
Abbabubba for me. I can't stand the song and I think I've listened to the album about once which makes me dislike the cover even more...
No problem with Paley & Francis myself - just two lads looking good in their suits. Never felt like that album needed anything more complicated than that.
While I agree with you that the Abbabubba cover is not the best, how in the world you can say you've listened to this album just one time is beyond me. There are some great tunes and pure FB on this album. See everyone, playing survivor is how we get to know one another and yet still remain one big happy forum.
I don't know. Most of his albums strike a deep chord with me and I've listened to them (and will continue to listen to them) millions of times. For whatever reason, that one didn't. I don't think it's ALL bad, maybe I just don't see it as a 'proper' album as it's a strange mix of different versions of previously released stuff and remixes alongside a few new tracks. I just don't think it comes close to anything else in his vast catalogue which is why it's remained largely ignored. Maybe I'll give it another chance! |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 05:14:11
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Devil's Workshop
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 11:35:42
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Round 8 will be ending tomorrow morning. I'm voting Abbabubba. Did Frank draw it?
Quick polling update:
Abbabubba - 2
Pistolero - 2
Devil's Workshop -1 |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
817 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 14:46:10
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I'm almost positive Frank drew Abbabubba.
I want to emphasize again: a good album cover captures the material or the thematic (even unintentional) through-lines of the album. I think even if the cover is ugly or whatever you think, this should be a point in favor of an album cover. To put it simply: does it capture the contents within?
Abbabbubba does this as its a doodle and this is an album of side musical doodles he did that had no place on the finished painting of his final albums.
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Jamie
- FB Fan -
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 17:00:29
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That's a lot of hoops to jump through to excuse something that looks like it was slapped together on an iPad in about 5 minutes. Say what you want about the album, it certainly had more care and thought put into it than that. The songs might not be polished, finished products, but that makes them sketches, not doodles.
(If it's not clear, I vote for Abbabubba) |
Edited by - Jamie on 12/19/2020 17:04:20 |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 18:46:22
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
I'm almost positive Frank drew Abbabubba.
I want to emphasize again: a good album cover captures the material or the thematic (even unintentional) through-lines of the album. I think even if the cover is ugly or whatever you think, this should be a point in favor of an album cover. To put it simply: does it capture the contents within?
Abbabbubba does this as its a doodle and this is an album of side musical doodles he did that had no place on the finished painting of his final albums.
Yeah, I don't disagree with a single word you wrote. I wonder if one could show this for all his albums. And I for one really like the album but don't think much of the cover (you should have seen the cover they wanted, it wasn't a glove I assure you).
Update
Abbabubba - 3
Pistolero - 2
Devil's Workshop - 1 |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2787 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 19:05:44
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for all the wrong
I’ve reasoned away
Abbabubba |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11674 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 22:04:11
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Pixies b sides for me
"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
817 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2020 : 22:51:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie
That's a lot of hoops to jump through to excuse something that looks like it was slapped together on an iPad in about 5 minutes. Say what you want about the album, it certainly had more care and thought put into it than that. The songs might not be polished, finished products, but that makes them sketches, not doodles.
That is really just semantic. I use the two terms interchangeably. If you want to reword my entire post with the word "sketch" instead of doodle, have at it.
In any case, I wasn't jumping through hoops strictly for that one album, I was trying to put forward a case that may affect future choices in the thread. Just something to keep in mind. I don't see anything wrong with taking a multifaceted approach to why an album cover is "bad" or "good." |
Edited by - Troubles A Foot on 12/19/2020 22:57:03 |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2020 : 02:04:35
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Well, all the hubbub about Abbabubba has bubbled over, and bye bye baby. But round 9 looks like it will be a good one too.
Final tally:
Abbabubba: 4
Pistolero: 2
Devil's Workshop: 1
Pixies B-sides: 1
I want to thank Jamie again for putting the covers together, ricj for finding SSMVGD (which i think we can all live without), and coastline for adding the nice red "x"s to the ones that we have voted off.
Round 9 starts now and will end in about 48 hours. Let it rock.
Gone:
Frank Black and the Catholics
Cult of Ray
Indie Cindy
Petit Fours
Let The People Speak
One More Road for the Hit
Honeycomb
Paley & Francis
Snake Oil
Abbabubba
Still surviving:
Come on Pilgrim
Surfer Rosa
Doolittle
Bossanova
Trompe Le Monde
B-Sides
Frank Black Self-Titled
TOTY
Oddballs
Pistolero
Dog in the Sand
Black Letter Days
Devil's Workshop
Show Me Your Tears
FMRM
Christmass
Bluefinger
SVN Fingers
Golem
NSE
Head Carrier
Beneath the Eyrie |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2020 : 06:34:21
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2020 : 06:37:21
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This makes a good argument for the Oddballs cover being one of the best. I've never loved that cover, but it certainly captures the content.
Also, my vote this round is Devil's Workshop.
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
I want to emphasize again: a good album cover captures the material or the thematic (even unintentional) through-lines of the album. I think even if the cover is ugly or whatever you think, this should be a point in favor of an album cover. To put it simply: does it capture the contents within?
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If all you see is violins, then I make a plea in their defense. |
Edited by - coastline on 12/20/2020 06:37:41 |
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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =
USA
817 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2020 : 09:28:43
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Oddballs is a great cover, one of the best.
Pistolero is again my vote. It's really ugly and it doesn't capture the music to me. |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
471 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2020 : 13:39:36
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Jamie
- FB Fan -
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2020 : 14:30:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
That is really just semantic. I use the two terms interchangeably. If you want to reword my entire post with the word "sketch" instead of doodle, have at it.
Okay, but a sketch and a doodle are actually different things. A sketch is something that might be rough or unfinished, but it's done with thought. A doodle is thoughtless. I think that cover is more of a doodle.
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In any case, I wasn't jumping through hoops strictly for that one album, I was trying to put forward a case that may affect future choices in the thread. Just something to keep in mind. I don't see anything wrong with taking a multifaceted approach to why an album cover is "bad" or "good."
Maybe it's because I'm a graphic designer, but I don't buy any logic that says to save a poorly designed cover over a better designed one.
My vote this round is Svn Fngrs. Pistolero is uglier and Snake Oil is more boring, but Svn Fngrs checks both boxes. The only thing that gives me pause is that I like the hand, but nothing is really done with it. It's just small and stuck in the center. The rest is just basic Halloween colors and boring type. |
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