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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 06/28/2019 :  01:09:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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But the best bit was end snippet of In the Arms of Mrs. Mark of Cain, the chords on the fade out, literal chills.


This is Motorway to Roswell piano ending right ?

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Yes that's it EXACTLY! Almost like an oak aged Roswell.


And the ending 3-chord guitar riff sounds a lot like some other Pixies 3-chord ending guitar riff, but I can't put my finger on it. Crackity Jones ?

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 06/28/2019 :  02:11:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got it ! Same ending riff as "Lovely Day" (from Trompe).

so... Mrs Mark of Cain ending is a pot-pourri of Lovely Day and Motorway to Roswell


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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 06/28/2019 :  03:52:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aha yes indeed. What a combination, no wonder it scratched an itch.
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 06/28/2019 :  09:50:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm bored so I made a little clip to compare endings of Lovely Day + Motorway to Roswell VS Mrs Mark of Cain

https://instaud.io/3Sxv

(edited a bit)
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 06/28/2019 :  14:53:30  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by picpic

I'm bored so I made a little clip to compare endings of Lovely Day + Motorway to Roswell VS Mrs Mark of Cain

https://instaud.io/3Sxv

(edited a bit)
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Nice. Kind of reminds me of this one (the end of every AC/DC song)

https://soundcloud.com/100-7-kslx/acdcend


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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 06/28/2019 :  17:30:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.nme.com/news/pixies-tease-new-songs-new-podcast-2518696/amp
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  08:16:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ep 2 is up :)

Getting some groove and good chat going now but talkover man is duuuuulllllll.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  08:27:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very cool to hear how that song came together. Charles really is half man.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  09:46:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Very cool to hear how that song came together. Charles really is half man.



It's really impressive to see the jigsaw pieces come together. Makes you appreciate the creativity and hard work of these musicians even more. I'm enjoying the inside look into their process. So far the podcast is adding to the experience leading up to September. Excited to hear more. And I'm looking forward to those demos. Chapel Hill sounds good to my ears, though we haven't heard any vocals from it yet, have we?
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  10:08:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Enjoy today's episode. A bit more low-key than last time. Like the sound of Chapel Hill. Also enjoyed hearing Graveyard Hill develop with Charles Singing the most rubbish lyrics on the takes as they were teasing out the song.

A bit disappointed not to get too much brand-new stuff compared to last week, however, I just realised if you go onto the Pixies twitter feed in the advert for Episode 2 there is the opening of bars of Cain, (not in fact ON Episode 2) and it sounds fricking AMAZING.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 07/05/2019 :  02:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lot of “hill” on their mind it seems

I think the narrator is fine. I wouldn’t want him trying to make it about himself in anyway. He’s just there to move it along
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 07/05/2019 :  04:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't understand everything they say (I'm french-speaking) but did I just heard Charles yelling "DRYIER DRUMS !" to Dalgety ?

Listening to Graveyard Hill, it sounds like Dalgety heard "muffled drums !" instead.


(I guess "dryer drums" doesn't refer to the studio's washing machine maintenance )
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 07/05/2019 :  19:59:55  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was wary, it is pretty good so far.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  07:06:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes he was claiming the drums are way too dry.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  07:08:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way what do people think of the opening bars of Chapel Hill at 07:00? I think this is my favourite snippet so far.
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  10:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Yes he was claiming the drums are way too dry.


Oh ok. I thought he was claiming the opposite.

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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  12:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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By the way what do people think of the opening bars of Chapel Hill at 07:00? I think this is my favourite snippet so far.



Me too, but I don't really like Charles' way of singing it. I liked the guitars at 16:55 in episode 1

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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =

USA
955 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2019 :  21:00:33  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I found it pretty astonishing that the lead single for the album was this very very new and very very rough song introduced while the recording was already underway. That's amazing. This podcast is great.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/08/2019 :  03:51:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by sdon

quote:
Originally posted by Sprite

By the way what do people think of the opening bars of Chapel Hill at 07:00? I think this is my favourite snippet so far.



Me too, but I don't really like Charles' way of singing it. I liked the guitars at 16:55 in episode 1

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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"
"Fucking up my devotion!"




I was assuming those vocals were just dummy phrases a bit like on 'Whaleback Hill'. But yes agree. I hope they are changed on the final version.

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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
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Posted - 07/08/2019 :  04:34:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whaleback Hill was a more intriguing title than Graveyard Hill

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 07/11/2019 :  00:10:55  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Episode 3 is up!

Love the ending of This Is My Fate. Not sure how it will turn out, fully produced.

There are some nice spoilers for next episode.

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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

3148 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2019 :  08:39:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm digging all the new music clips.
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Bedbug
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Posted - 07/11/2019 :  08:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Whaleback Hill was a more intriguing title than Graveyard Hill

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Dalgety's reason was that "it doesn't roll off the tongue" ?
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~

United Kingdom
432 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2019 :  10:55:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kind of agree with him. Whaleback sounds pretty awkward to me.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2019 :  12:05:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Kind of agree with him. Whaleback sounds pretty awkward to me.



Same here, it's clunky. Glad they changed it.
I'm very surprised by Dalgety's input thus far. His opinions and ideas have a lot more sway on everyone than I would've expected given such an experienced group. Wondering if Charles is always so laid back and open to suggestions as he is here. He hasn't been featured much but Joey sounds in good form based on the snippets.
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2019 :  23:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Getting into it now, Dalgety and Paz coming across really well - exactly the right kind of positivity you want around you when you're working.
Like the way they're giving us intro's/outros to give an idea of evolution without spoiling too much.
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1874 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2019 :  02:23:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I'm very surprised by Dalgety's input thus far. His opinions and ideas have a lot more sway on everyone than I would've expected given such an experienced group.


That's what a producer should do if you ask me. Giving advice, using his scissors and cut if necessary. I always felt that that was missing on Indie Cindy for some reason.


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Bedbug
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Posted - 07/12/2019 :  02:33:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I’ve thought that FBF is the definition of laid back: writing lyrics on the fly (in the studio), making it up as he goes, recording it live. I think it’ is (and was) other band members who were not so laid back.
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2019 :  02:40:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing of what we've heard so far indicates Joey is very laid back when recording.

I've been enjoying the conversations around the arrangements - adding/removing parts etc. They're in the studio, surrounded by their gear but they still verbalise parts rather than play them.

It must be hell trying to remember what's in/out when you're going for so many takes on a song in an hour without having the muscle memory of how that song works..
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 07/12/2019 :  06:00:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Bedbug

I’ve thought that FBF is the definition of laid back: writing lyrics on the fly (in the studio), making it up as he goes, recording it live. I think it’ is (and was) other band members who were not so laid back.


I remember him saying that as early as Bossanova, he kind of lost that hability to write lyrics fast, at the last second.
Maybe he did that on some songs, probably not on whole albums (I think even Doolittle was pre-produced with Gil Norton months before the actual recording)

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Bedbug
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Posted - 07/12/2019 :  06:33:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

I’ve thought that FBF is the definition of laid back: writing lyrics on the fly (in the studio), making it up as he goes, recording it live. I think it’ is (and was) other band members who were not so laid back.


I remember him saying that as early as Bossanova, he kind of lost that hability to write lyrics fast, at the last second.
Maybe he did that on some songs, probably not on whole albums (I think even Doolittle was pre-produced with Gil Norton months before the actual recording)

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I thought Bossanova was the album that he was actually writing in the studio while everybody was waiting. Maybe for Ana or All Over The World? Obviously if I found the source that would help corroborate.

And I think he referred to FMRM as "quickes" in the sense that he wrote the songs fast (Fast Man pun goes here).
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2019 :  06:59:48  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just catching up on episode 2. Paz, for seemingly no reason, at 6:18 or so, sings out a recurring theme from The Beach Boys Smile that precedes the Child Is The Father Of The Man sections. Interesting.


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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 07/12/2019 :  07:16:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I thought Bossanova was the album that he was actually writing in the studio while everybody was waiting. Maybe for Ana or All Over The World? Obviously if I found the source that would help corroborate.


He said he kind of lost his ability to write fast in that 2001 documentary (can't find it on Youtube anymore). It's from the part where they start talking about the Bossa/Trompe era, where Charles kind of acknowledge he lost his ability write fast and he regrets not having "re-written" some songs.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 07/12/2019 :  07:49:34  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
And he was wrong about those songs too!

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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

3148 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2019 :  07:53:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He should re-write them now and release them on an upcoming 2.0 album. Who wouldn't want to hear the final draft of Stormy Weather?
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