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IceCream
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Posted - 12/13/2003 :  20:19:23  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just a thought:
Do you tink maybe 5 years from now we could do another tribute? I'm sure FB will have about 20 new albums in that time, and I think that a lot of people enjoyed creating their track, reading people's progress reports on the forum, and there is a great element of suspense in waiting for the final track list to be posted (It was like Christmas morning for me). Plus, I think a lot of people (like NimrodsSon) might want a second chance, considering that they hadn't been recording for a long time. Also, I think five years is enough time for people to recover from the immense amount of work and everything. I feel guilty to ask becuase we just made our "Hey - A Pixies tribute" and I would bet a lot of people are so tired and overworked that they don't even want to think for a second about another one....but keep in mind that five years is a long time. I'm not even suggesting it, really; I'm just wondering if this is the last time we EVER do anything like this.

I'm scared of the possible replies, I might get a lot of "Oh boo hoo, you gay idiot, you didn't make the list and we're just supposed to work our rectums off just to give you a second chance?" (No, that's not the point, in case you were going to say that).

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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 12/13/2003 :  22:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure there will be another tribute down the road. Maybe even less than 5 years? You figure in three years Frank will have out at least 2 more albums, plus Show Me Your Years wasn't covered on this one (except for one or two songs I believe). Plus so many FB songs weren't covered, and new people may have different spins on songs that people did cover. The possibilities definitely lean to a second FB tribute someday.

I still think some kind of Frank Black parody album would be funny. Anyway, I'm sure this will be discusses in the near future.




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mdisanto
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Posted - 12/13/2003 :  22:42:29  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
itd be cool to collaborate on tribute songs over the forum. like get groups of people together and do songs thanks to the glory of broadband internet. probably would take a lot more organizing though

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  00:29:13  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was thinking the next (and last for a loooong time from me) one might involve people doing songs 'inspired/about' FB, but original material.

That's all I can type for now. I had my first bunch of beer in a long time and it's taken record time to edit this to legibility.


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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  01:34:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had a lot of beer, I think that is a good idea man.
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Cookie
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  06:51:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the "music-inspired by FB" is a good idea. With each new album Frank puts out, conceivably we could do a fan rendition. The advantage to this: it would be fun; but it could take the "specialness" out of the work already done. Just something to think about.
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The Holiday Son
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  07:28:38  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was also thinking about what we could do after those 2 tribute albums and I came up with the following ideas:
- A "Free lance" Tribute, ie: covers of other bands we like.
- Original songs
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bumblebeeboy2
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  07:38:28  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I was thinking the next (and last for a loooong time from me) one might involve people doing songs 'inspired/about' FB, but original material.

That's all I can type for now. I had my first bunch of beer in a long time and it's taken record time to edit this to legibility.


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sounds good, was thinking that myself. would be interesting to hear peoples 'own' material... i must admit after listening to the fb tribute i checked out quite a few websites of the artists and listened to some of their own mp3's...

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bumblebeeboy2
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  07:42:32  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

I was also thinking about what we could do after those 2 tribute albums and I came up with the following ideas:
- A "Free lance" Tribute, ie: covers of other bands we like.
- Original songs




problem with a free lance tribute is making it legal. as far as i know we're okay doing frank and pixies as frank knows about them and hasn't tried to sue the site or dean yet... other artists might not be so kind and legally you're supposed to get permission to cover a song... a good idea apart from that. was thinking about it myself too the other night.

a pixies/breeders/frank black tribute might be cool, being allowed to cover any song from any of those bands (or maybe even the martinis), so it would kind of be a 'best of'

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Cookie
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  07:44:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also wanted to echo what Dean said about the a-side/b-side thing. Music and all art is highly subjective. Sure, there are some pieces that most everyone enjoys, but there are other works that inspire passion in a few and indifference or dislike in others. I think the divergent response to Frank's body of work illuminates this point--I love Pistolero, my all-time favorite, but lots of people think it's his career lowpoint.

I think I hear this understanding of art's subjective nature in Frank's tunes (from TOTY: "noboby owns the pleasure of tones/that belong to the guy with no ear")and I believe I can see it in Frank's generally good-humored acceptance of a limited commercial success that does not accord with the huge impact he has had on musician's and close listeners.

Some of my favorite tunes by my favorite artists have been b-sides.
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  07:53:47  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hehe, Weezer has some great b-sides. Then again...Rivers is just insane...

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  08:29:00  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I had Man of Steel playing on repeat for two days when I discovered that one... also, when I put You Ain't Me in my car (I have an MP3 CD player, so I was able to do this) I burnt it plus 5 b-sides as "bonus tracks". :)

Incidentally, Ice Cream, you won't have to wait 5 years for the next one. :) Probably a few months though, I need to have my feet up for awhile and decompress. Maybe in the spring.

That's all for now. Hope you've all checked out the teaser on the news page.


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grozio
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  13:47:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
we have... I have...
as for FB-inspired songs: I could sent a couple right away and I'm sure i'm not the only one,,, that album could be release d before Christmas as well :-)
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  14:35:26  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ha! May you die a quick and painful death for the suggestion.


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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  18:13:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
speaking of this, Dean did you get my "special song" that I uploaded to your FTP?

I wasn't expecting you to mention it right away when I did upload because you were probably very busy with this tribute.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  18:51:34  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yup, I'll throw it in with the b-sides, have no worries. Maybe Frank will hear it and use it for the new Pixies album. Oops, I've said too much. :)


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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  20:38:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha.

Cool.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  20:57:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So I'm using my computer and all of a sudden, bam, a UPS breaker trips (I recently unplugged my computer and all components for some home rennos and replugged everything back in in a different configuation). I have two UPSes and I hadn't remembered to balance the loads on each.

So my computer's off, leaving me scrambling to figure out what the hell happened and I finally figure out what I posted above and get it back up and I get this message: Hard drive failure imminent with some details on the specifics of the failure. Well, this is where all my tracks for both Kingly Cave and There Goes My Gun are, not to mention all the work that's gone into this project, the FTP material, tonnes of personal files, and so on. About the only thing I have duplicated on a second hard drive is my photo albums.

Anyway, everything's still safe at the moment and I'm backing up like a fool and deleting all over the place to make sure I have everything backed up that I would potentially lose for good, but as a wise man once said, "Who needs that now?"

Thankfully, Mike maintains a lot of free hard drive space to which I am able to slowly back up stuff to.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  21:02:23  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Addenum: Deleting all this music hurts me so much, even though I have lots on CD in one form or another.


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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

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Posted - 12/14/2003 :  23:07:24  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Akk..what does this all mean??
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miguel
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  00:50:38  Show Profile  Visit miguel's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Holly crap that SUX!

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  06:23:47  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, I've deleted all sorts of "replaceable" stuff and backed up everything having to do with this tribute plus a little bit of personal stuff, so all is well. Just means another couple hundred bucks to spend this Christmas. :(

This time, though, I'm buying two 80 gig drives. Screw 30 + 60.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  06:26:05  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
BTW, thanks for the quick note, Mike/miguel. You made my morning.


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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  08:34:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That really stinks, Dean. Sounds like you are having a rough day.

keep voting for Dean:
http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-205.html




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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  08:56:50  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No complaints, actually, I'm just happy I was able to still access everything long enough to save what's most important. I've been thinking of reformatting and starting over anyway, so now I'm pretty much forced to. I just hope that the hard drive lasts until next week because I certainly don't have time right now to start doing that.


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El Barto
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Posted - 12/15/2003 :  09:17:11  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Let this be a reminder to all: backup your harddrives. Yikes...it takes so much work though! I probably should...glad to heard everything is A-OK though.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/16/2003 :  08:31:12  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Could the following people please get in touch with myself and/or Tim:

1) (The?) New Retros re: phase/'the' in name or not
2) Dale Nixon(s?) re: aborted upload/'s'
3) The Cut*off re: distortion

Thank you!


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Dave Noisy
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Posted - 12/16/2003 :  09:38:47  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think you have to make a Klaxon noise to get their attention Dean..? Or at least a flashing blue light.
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/16/2003 :  09:44:20  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sadly, I have neither, so I've been screaming like a banshee in the office all morning in the hopes that someone will hear.


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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 12/16/2003 :  15:42:33  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oooooh...it's getting so close...

You should release all of the B-Sides ahead of time to get some drool going...then you can release the main course. It will let us digest them easier. No one likes constipation, especially when it comes to the pixies. Hehehe

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/16/2003 :  16:18:45  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Heh, sorry. They all come out at once... three more sleeps. :)


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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 12/16/2003 :  16:35:58  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
haha, no...no more sleeps...damn insomnia...

haha

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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 12/18/2003 :  13:49:58  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
dum de dum..

just one more day. you'd expect there'd be more hype and excitement than this...haha.

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 12/18/2003 :  13:56:11  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Heh, too busy to generate either... but hopefully people are excited to get their hands on this.


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STITCHES
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Posted - 12/18/2003 :  14:01:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
speaking of which, I"m a little out of the loop....how do I get my hands on it?

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