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Bedbug
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Posted - 11/08/2018 :  10:37:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love Jaime Bravo too! Oh heck, I love everything the dude has ever done. I just am spoiled by 1988 to 1994 like every body else.

I too find it odd that Jaime has never been done live, especially since Joey has gone on record saying he really likes how he scored it.
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Sprite
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Posted - 11/08/2018 :  12:41:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by picpic


Same opinion on Jaime Bravo then ? I love this song. Chord progressions, great Santiago score, the whole bullfighting imagery and, intriguingly enough, never performed onstage

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trevgreg
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Posted - 12/09/2018 :  06:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot

I like the album a lot more than Head Carrier, I was really surprised by the general consensus here (and in like every review) that Head Carrier was some sort of return to form or back to basics Pixies album. Not just surprised, totally baffled. I don't hear it as that at all. Aside from maybe 2 or 3 songs I don't like, Indie to me feels like a crazy weird classic kind of Pixies album.



I'm similar. Head Carrier didn't quite strike me as hard as Indie Cindy did, although I do like a few of the songs off it. Indie Cindy isn't a perfect album for me, but I really enjoyed most of the stuff on there.
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Bedbug
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Posted - 12/10/2018 :  10:12:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's interesting to me that (and I say this is a who cares sort of way): the pixies blew it twice with the opportunity to blow up huge.

First, they broke up right before alternative became the hot thing and if they had stayed together through like 94 and released one more album it probably would have gone platinum and then who knows how big they would have gotten.

And second, you only get one chance to come back with your first album in 20 years, and no matter how much you might love Indie Cindy I think we all can admit it was at the very least underwhelming. If it had been mind blowing on the level of 1.0 or good solo FB / BF stuff it probably would have catapulted them to another level.

But again, who cares. I don't care. But I did take the time to type all this so I guess I care a little.

Edited by - Bedbug on 12/10/2018 10:13:18
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Stevio10
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Posted - 12/11/2018 :  00:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's interesting listening to Indie Cindy having got used to Paz being involved and her vocals not there.

By no means their best song but I was listening to Ring the Bell and thinking that song could have worked very well slowed down, almost acoustic (calm down those drums Dave) with Paz singing lead vocal / harmonising with Charles. Like a wave of mutilation surf mix version.


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Jason Bravo
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Posted - 12/11/2018 :  17:06:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Bedbug

It's interesting to me that (and I say this is a who cares sort of way): the pixies blew it twice with the opportunity to blow up huge.

First, they broke up right before alternative became the hot thing and if they had stayed together through like 94 and released one more album it probably would have gone platinum and then who knows how big they would have gotten.

And second, you only get one chance to come back with your first album in 20 years, and no matter how much you might love Indie Cindy I think we all can admit it was at the very least underwhelming. If it had been mind blowing on the level of 1.0 or good solo FB / BF stuff it probably would have catapulted them to another level.

But again, who cares. I don't care. But I did take the time to type all this so I guess I care a little.


I used to share this same viewpoint/opinion many years ago about Pixies becoming something "really big" if they would have remained together in the 90's. They were/are and always will be a fringe act, and basically on purpose. Even if they would have remained together I realistically don't think they would have become much more popular than they were in '91. One of the main reasons in my opinion is because of the lyrics in their songs. No politics, (really to speak of), and that almost became the national anthem in 90's rock. Pearl Jam, Green Day, etc...Puke! Either political songs or, political movements, or just sad emo songs about close girlfriends or friends dying sadly/pathetically just over and over again and again. Part of what made/makes the Pixies great is for the most part, the lack of these redundant and cliche themes.
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Bedbug
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Posted - 12/12/2018 :  03:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Jason Bravo

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Originally posted by Bedbug

It's interesting to me that (and I say this is a who cares sort of way): the pixies blew it twice with the opportunity to blow up huge.

First, they broke up right before alternative became the hot thing and if they had stayed together through like 94 and released one more album it probably would have gone platinum and then who knows how big they would have gotten.

And second, you only get one chance to come back with your first album in 20 years, and no matter how much you might love Indie Cindy I think we all can admit it was at the very least underwhelming. If it had been mind blowing on the level of 1.0 or good solo FB / BF stuff it probably would have catapulted them to another level.

But again, who cares. I don't care. But I did take the time to type all this so I guess I care a little.


I used to share this same viewpoint/opinion many years ago about Pixies becoming something "really big" if they would have remained together in the 90's. They were/are and always will be a fringe act, and basically on purpose. Even if they would have remained together I realistically don't think they would have become much more popular than they were in '91. One of the main reasons in my opinion is because of the lyrics in their songs. No politics, (really to speak of), and that almost became the national anthem in 90's rock. Pearl Jam, Green Day, etc...Puke! Either political songs or, political movements, or just sad emo songs about close girlfriends or friends dying sadly/pathetically just over and over again and again. Part of what made/makes the Pixies great is for the most part, the lack of these redundant and cliche themes.



Assuming you're right that could partly explain why WIMM is their biggest hit. It's title and lyrics could sound more emo than a lot of the FBF lyrics do.

But still a whole bunch of bands experienced a bump in 93 94 because of the alternative craze and I'm sure the pixies would have too. People's grandmas were buying Experimental Jet Set Trash and No Star just because it was in the alternative section. And that band with the kid in the bee suit. All sorts of whatever.
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