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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/19/2017 :  05:45:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tix already on sale for some UK dates, looks like Tanya has confirmed its UK only no other Euro dates..
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benji
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New Zealand
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Posted - 10/19/2017 :  17:45:41  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A live recording on their Camden, London show has appeared on Dime.
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=603739
Quality is very decent, and includes a couple of new songs.

The Breeders -Electric Ballroom, Camden, London, 18th Oct 2017

Recorded and uploaded at 24/48
I'm not doing a lower res version and the tracks have not been split for CD

Recorded with DPA 4061 - DPA d:VICE - iPhone 6s+ (Voice Recorder 7 Pro)
Transferred to MacBook - Normalised and split in Wave Editor - Tagged with names in xAct & converted to Flac8

Recorder and uploaded by Duncan


Set List:
No Aloha
Invisible Man
S.O.S.
Hag
Wait In The Car
I Am Decided (The Amps cover)
Tipp City (The Amps cover)
Night of Joy
Fortunately Gone
Walking With a Killer
Pacer (The Amps cover)
Bang On
Off You
New Year
Cannonball
Happiness Is a Warm Gun (Beatles cover)
Glorious
Archangels Thunderbird (Amon Düül II cover)
Divine Hammer
I Just Wanna Get Along
Do You Love Me Now?
Encore:
Gigantic
Saints
Drivin' on 9 (Ed's Redeeming Qualities cover)
Iris



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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sdon
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France
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Posted - 10/20/2017 :  11:13:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kim still doing Gigantic

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Sprite
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Posted - 10/20/2017 :  14:00:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well they got the opener right.
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hoverin
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USA
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Posted - 10/20/2017 :  14:52:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sdon

Kim still doing Gigantic

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Still?

It's actually very, very unusual for the Breeders to play Gigantic.
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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  02:24:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why wouldn't they? They're already playing loads of covers and Amps songs.. Only song Kim plays bass for, weirdly she plays Jo's bass rather than her own so the tone is quite hard and dry compared to Kims warmer/fatter sound.. Jo had the goldtop and managed an epic Santiagoesque fluff in the breakdown bit :)
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Bedbug
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  06:46:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Into the White?
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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  07:14:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's a Charles song, isn't it? Seen him sing it solo :/
I always thought she suggested Winterlong as a cover, surprised they still play that.
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pot
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  08:19:57  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought Into The White was a Neil Young song?
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Bedbug
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  08:28:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

That's a Charles song, isn't it? Seen him sing it solo :/
I always thought she suggested Winterlong as a cover, surprised they still play that.



Yes it's Charles' song #203 right now good point
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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  09:45:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

I thought Into The White was a Neil Young song?



Winterlong is Neil Young, https://youtu.be/WkUmBxpuG64
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Bedbug
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  12:01:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Neil Young covering Into the White would be something
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pot
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Posted - 10/21/2017 :  23:50:32  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aye that was it, Winterlong.
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Srisaket
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Thailand
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Posted - 10/22/2017 :  19:44:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crikey, an Amon Düül II cover !
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 10/22/2017 :  23:17:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well technically Gigantic is also a Charles song with Deal's lyrics.

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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/23/2017 :  00:22:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by picpic

Well technically Gigantic is also a Charles song with Deal's lyrics.

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Charles' chord progression and title, Kim's lyrics, vocal and bass melodies I s'pose.
I wonder who's going to claim dibs on Silver or if it had it's day on the Doolittle tour and that's it.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1185 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2017 :  00:57:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She could also sing Bagboy chorus since she's obviously singing chorus on the studio version uncredited (even if they said it wasn't her) ;-)

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Bedbug
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Posted - 10/23/2017 :  01:49:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Somebody said the Breeders should cover All i Think About Now
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pixie punk
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Posted - 10/23/2017 :  03:58:35  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=54s&v=EN8_awhLibQ Some footage from Melkweg.

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1185 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2017 :  04:22:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Why wouldn't they? They're already playing loads of covers and Amps songs.. Only song Kim plays bass for, weirdly she plays Jo's bass rather than her own so the tone is quite hard and dry compared to Kims warmer/fatter sound.. Jo had the goldtop and managed an epic Santiagoesque fluff in the breakdown bit :)


For the trivia... the LP Goldtop is the one Santiago had for a while in the early Pixies years, when he had his glorious signature sound. I saw some Breeders video a while ago on Youtube, sisters Deal were performing a song in the studio with the Goldtop, the guitar is the exact same as early Joey's LP (pickups, dents, and so on.). I read somewhere he had to return the guitar to Deal because she was afraid he could damage it.

And for the bass sound, Kim also said in the Pixies years the she hated her Pixies bass amp (isn't this an Ampeg stack ?) and asked if she could use her own amp instead, but Charles insisted she kept using the Pixies one. And now it has been passed to Paz judging by the latest Pixies videos. Looks like Kim prefers a dryier bass sound.

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Edited by - picpic on 10/23/2017 04:23:55
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BunsenH
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Posted - 10/23/2017 :  11:18:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SEVEN covers!? Maybe I'll go see them this time around...
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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/23/2017 :  11:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by picpic


And for the bass sound, Kim also said in the Pixies years the she hated her Pixies bass amp (isn't this an Ampeg stack ?) and asked if she could use her own amp instead, but Charles insisted she kept using the Pixies one. And now it has been passed to Paz judging by the latest Pixies videos. Looks like Kim prefers a dryier bass sound.



Hadn't heard that about Charles and the amps before - is that true for 2004+ tours too?

She was def playing Jo's rig, not her own - they're not even unplugging when they swap instruments so are quite often standing in front of a stack that someone else is playing through.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 10/23/2017 :  20:27:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah you're right its not the Ampeg one she hated.

from the very old page AlecEiffel.free.fr

Kim: "I hate my cabinets - a Gallien-Krueger 4x10 and another one that says 'Joe's Light' on it, which has an 18. In the studio I beg them to let me use my amp. They say, 'Okay Kim, here's your channel right here.' Then it's always, 'Let's try just the D.I. alone for a minute, Kim. Hey, sounds great!'" K.D."

That said Paz got the Ampeg when Kim left.

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pixie punk
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Posted - 10/24/2017 :  01:52:09  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlubmF4MDvg Kelley's Q Awards interview.

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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Discoking
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Belgium
730 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2017 :  03:03:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji


Set List:
No Aloha
Invisible Man
S.O.S.
Hag
Wait In The Car
I Am Decided (The Amps cover)
Tipp City (The Amps cover)
Night of Joy
Fortunately Gone
Walking With a Killer
Pacer (The Amps cover)
Bang On
Off You
New Year
Cannonball
Happiness Is a Warm Gun (Beatles cover)
Glorious
Archangels Thunderbird (Amon Düül II cover)
Divine Hammer
I Just Wanna Get Along
Do You Love Me Now?
Encore:
Gigantic
Saints
Drivin' on 9 (Ed's Redeeming Qualities cover)
Iris


they played a nearly identical setlist in antwerp yesterday.
divine hammer was part of the encore, though, instead of saints. i believe they switched hag, divine hammer and saints around, but i might be wrong.


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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/24/2017 :  06:57:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kelly still showing off her award?
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peter radiator
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USA
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Posted - 10/24/2017 :  13:23:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by picpic

Ah you're right its not the Ampeg one she hated.

from the very old page AlecEiffel.free.fr

Kim: "In the studio I beg them to let me use my amp. They say, 'Okay Kim, here's your channel right here.' Then it's always, 'Let's try just the D.I. alone for a minute, Kim. Hey, sounds great!'"
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It is not uncommon at all in a studio situation to run the bass guitar direct into the board, and not mic the amp cabinet itself.

When you are in the studio and your bass is running direct, the only way to hear it is through headphones (or sometimes through small studio monitors) which sound nothing like an actual bass amp, nor do they allow you to "feel" the low frequencies, which she is clearly used to on stage and in a rehearsal room.

That seems to be what she is referring to.

Some folks like this sound and approach, while others do not.

As a result, some folks actually do both at the same time and use two different channels, one for each signal. Then they have the option of blending the two sounds to create a hybrid bass tone for the record.


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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
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Posted - 10/24/2017 :  20:03:18  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If there's interest I could make this Breeders recording available to those non-dimers out there.
I like how this has generated quite some discussion.



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/25/2017 :  02:47:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/oct/22/the-breeders-electric-ballroom-london-review-kim-deal-music-defies-physics

^ Review of the London show
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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/25/2017 :  11:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Studio version of Archangel's Thunderbird (Amon Düül II Cover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RggWnxofAmk
Rip sounds a little hot but listenable
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Discoking
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Belgium
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Posted - 10/25/2017 :  21:03:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ah yes, i also bought the orange 7" at the show.

now i need to collect the other two, whenever they are released.


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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 10/25/2017 :  23:33:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

quote:
Originally posted by picpic

Ah you're right its not the Ampeg one she hated.

from the very old page AlecEiffel.free.fr

Kim: "In the studio I beg them to let me use my amp. They say, 'Okay Kim, here's your channel right here.' Then it's always, 'Let's try just the D.I. alone for a minute, Kim. Hey, sounds great!'"
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It is not uncommon at all in a studio situation to run the bass guitar direct into the board, and not mic the amp cabinet itself.

When you are in the studio and your bass is running direct, the only way to hear it is through headphones (or sometimes through small studio monitors) which sound nothing like an actual bass amp, nor do they allow you to "feel" the low frequencies, which she is clearly used to on stage and in a rehearsal room.

That seems to be what she is referring to.

Some folks like this sound and approach, while others do not.

As a result, some folks actually do both at the same time and use two different channels, one for each signal. Then they have the option of blending the two sounds to create a hybrid bass tone for the record.


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aahhh D.I. = Direct Input ? Thought she referred to some other amplifier brand. Thanks for your (direct) input !

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stuczuba
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Posted - 10/26/2017 :  01:51:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Discoking

ah yes, i also bought the orange 7" at the show.

now i need to collect the other two, whenever they are released.


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Merch guy reckoned this first one will only be available at shows.
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stuczuba
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121 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2017 :  03:52:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, Belly have just released their first material in 20+ years - a cover of Hushabye Mountain. Very gentle with keys/synths and a George Martin style solo..
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Discoking
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Belgium
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Posted - 10/26/2017 :  08:44:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Merch guy reckoned this first one will only be available at shows.


indeed: http://thebreedersmusic.com/#waitinthecar


Orange - available only at upcoming Breeders shows
b/w Amon Düül II 'Archangel's Thunderbird'


Red - available only at ?
b/w Mike Nesmith 'Joanne'


Yellow - available only at independent record stores
b/w Devo 'Gates of Steel'

this article says the red one is actually the indie record store version, and that it will be released on 27 october: https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/the-breeders-are-back-with-new-single-wait-in-the-car-and-details-of-a-new

maybe the third version (red or yellow?) will be a record store day release? or is that too far away from now?


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