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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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 Posted - 11/28/2016 : 08:09:01
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Switching to Snakes from Bagboy. Though the 'cover your breath polish your teeth' part of Bagboy nearly drives me insane
Most of it have been (thankfully) edited out on the album version.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 11/28/2016 : 08:15:28
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Switching to Snakes from Bagboy. Though the 'cover your breath polish your teeth' part of Bagboy nearly drives me insane
Most of it have been (thankfully) edited out on the album version.
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Personally I like the "cover your breath," etc stuff in Bagboy. It made me feel like Charles was really going for something different and that we were about to hear a new sound. It was one of the only challenging songs in all of 2.0. |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1872 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 08:55:35
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Same for Another Toe, then ? That's the most challenging one: everyone hates it !
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 09:12:13
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Originally posted by picpic
Same for Another Toe, then ? That's the most challenging one: everyone hates it !
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To me Another Toe is no different than Greens and Blues or HCYM. He produced something that if it were done by the four lads from Liverpool it would have been a mega-hit.
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album. |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1072 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 11:27:31
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Originally posted by Bedbug
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Originally posted by picpic
Same for Another Toe, then ? That's the most challenging one: everyone hates it !
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To me Another Toe is no different than Greens and Blues or HCYM. He produced something that if it were done by the four lads from Liverpool it would have been a mega-hit.
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album.
Interesting point, agree to an extent. It (in album form) starts out great until Bagboy hits then the momentum meanders. I wonder if it was a conscientious decision to leave out Masher, Oona etc for Head Carrier.
Maybe Toulon, Cloud, Wolves will be saved over for the next album? |
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =
296 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 16:11:15
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Alright - we have a tie. I suggest we just kill both and move along. I didn't vote for either, but I'm not sad to see them go. If you spell the whole name of the song, it'll help me a lot--I use "find" to help me tally. Here're the results:
Snakes (5)
Blue Eyed Hexe (5)
Ring the Bell (2)
Bagboy (2)
Silver Snail (2)
Talent (1)
Jaime Bravo (1)
Indie Cindy (1)
Baal’s Back (1)
Women of War (1)
For the next round, I'm again voting for "Talent". I try to skip it before it even comes on.
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Ecto
- FB Fan -
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 16:42:32
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 17:25:33
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Baal's Back
Go ahead and listen right now to how bad it sounds
Even if live versions sound better the studio version is a complete failure |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
471 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 20:29:08
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~
United Kingdom
411 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 22:01:45
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1872 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 22:21:41
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Silver Snail.
I like the chord progression, but the song bores me somehow.
Hard for me to decide which songs I would "trash". I wouldn't trash any Pixies song even on Indie Cindy. But I could easily skip Snakes & Silver Snail. I don't know. Maybe I have a problem with reptiles and gasteropods.
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
403 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 23:06:17
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7438 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 23:51:58
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Originally posted by Bedbug
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album.
What does that mean? I can't think of any FB solo record that is as bad as Indie Cindy.
Denis
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7438 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 23:54:41
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Round 3: Indie Cindy. This song puts the cock in cocktail, man. And not in a good way.
Denis
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
1995 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2016 : 23:59:57
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 00:48:33
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quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album.
What does that mean? I can't think of any FB solo record that is as bad as Indie Cindy.
Denis
What it means is that whatever ranking you gave to "Frank Black Honeycomb" (let's say you gave it 3/5, I have no idea if you like it or not) you would have given it a lower score (say 1/5) if it were called "The Pixies Honeycomb."
Because IC says "The Pixies" on the cover you automatically connect it back to the five 1.0 albums in a way that you didn't connect NSE or FMRM.
IC sucks as much because of what it isn't rather than what it is. FB singing Another Toe is not as bad as The Pixies singing Kiss My Ring.
I will grant you that I'm not even taking into consideration the production / compression issues of IC, which to me seem the worst of any album Charles has ever done. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1225 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 02:20:39
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Sad about losing Snakes but there you go.
Round 3. Back to Bagboy |
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jake3
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
241 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 03:28:25
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
779 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 10:11:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Switching to Snakes from Bagboy. Though the 'cover your breath polish your teeth' part of Bagboy nearly drives me insane
Most of it have been (thankfully) edited out on the album version.
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Personally I like the "cover your breath," etc stuff in Bagboy. It made me feel like Charles was really going for something different and that we were about to hear a new sound. It was one of the only challenging songs in all of 2.0.
Same for me
I agree
I prefer the original Bagboy (as in the video) to the album version
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
779 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 10:13:53
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Ring The Bell
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1072 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 12:54:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
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Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album.
What does that mean? I can't think of any FB solo record that is as bad as Indie Cindy.
Denis
What it means is that whatever ranking you gave to "Frank Black Honeycomb" (let's say you gave it 3/5, I have no idea if you like it or not) you would have given it a lower score (say 1/5) if it were called "The Pixies Honeycomb."
Because IC says "The Pixies" on the cover you automatically connect it back to the five 1.0 albums in a way that you didn't connect NSE or FMRM.
IC sucks as much because of what it isn't rather than what it is. FB singing Another Toe is not as bad as The Pixies singing Kiss My Ring.
I will grant you that I'm not even taking into consideration the production / compression issues of IC, which to me seem the worst of any album Charles has ever done.
Almost all music gets judged on what it isn't as opposed to what it is. When that mind frame is adopted, it just isn't healthy - for any art form.
No dig at anyone but who gives a fuck if it's called pixies, black francis, frank black or Charlie Brown. The same person composed, wrote, sings and plays guitar.
Do Robert Galbraith and Richard Bachman suffer the same fate of being judged by their more famous names.
Bah I'll stand down from my soapbox but art is art - you don't look at a painting and judge it for what it isn't.
FYI - voting Bagboy. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
2962 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2016 : 15:11:14
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Originally posted by Stevio10
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Originally posted by Bedbug
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Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album.
What does that mean? I can't think of any FB solo record that is as bad as Indie Cindy.
Denis
What it means is that whatever ranking you gave to "Frank Black Honeycomb" (let's say you gave it 3/5, I have no idea if you like it or not) you would have given it a lower score (say 1/5) if it were called "The Pixies Honeycomb."
Because IC says "The Pixies" on the cover you automatically connect it back to the five 1.0 albums in a way that you didn't connect NSE or FMRM.
IC sucks as much because of what it isn't rather than what it is. FB singing Another Toe is not as bad as The Pixies singing Kiss My Ring.
I will grant you that I'm not even taking into consideration the production / compression issues of IC, which to me seem the worst of any album Charles has ever done.
Almost all music gets judged on what it isn't as opposed to what it is. When that mind frame is adopted, it just isn't healthy - for any art form.
No dig at anyone but who gives a fuck if it's called pixies, black francis, frank black or Charlie Brown. The same person composed, wrote, sings and plays guitar.
Do Robert Galbraith and Richard Bachman suffer the same fate of being judged by their more famous names.
Bah I'll stand down from my soapbox but art is art - you don't look at a painting and judge it for what it isn't.
FYI - voting Bagboy.
It's on this basis that I say that TOTY is the best Pixies album of all time.
On what basis could you disagree? The same guy(s) plays on these albums. |
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
961 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2016 : 07:46:45
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Silver Snail. BF adopts that horrible singing voice that also part of the reason why Snakes was so crap. Some nice imagery in the lyrics but the song is just (pun totally intended) sluggish.
Also, regardless of the weird voice editing, Baal's Back is still one of the best things Pixies volume 2 have done. Not the first time he's masked his scream - see Planet of Sound. Even with the scream toned down it's still a catchy as heck song. And what I consider to be some of his best lyrics since Svn Fngrs. A lot of bite and anger.
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2016 : 12:00:48
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| Agree, Silver Snail. It's fine but sluggish and plodding. I feel like what was being played with here was pulled off much better elsewhere on the album, namely on Andro Queen. |
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Fitzy
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Portugal
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Posted - 12/01/2016 : 14:47:08
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Going with Greens and Blues. It's not horrible or anything, it's just one of the safest songs FBF has ever written. I never quite understood the love for 'Monkey Gone to Heaven', but at least that one has those brilliant lyrics.
Greens and Blues just has too little to offer, it's a pleasant listen, but saying a Pixies song is "pleasant" kind of sounds wrong. G&B manages to surpass Ring the Bell for it's pillow-y feel. Also, the slow tempo doesn't help.
I really like Silver Snail, for some reason, love the lyrics and all the imagery. The chord changes are also kind of cool. Not sluggish, maybe sullen?, which is something they don't normally go for.
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
779 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2016 : 19:54:15
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^^ great analysis Fitzy
I find G&B weak, but still a bit better than Ring The Bell
Silver Snail is sullen, exactly. If shorter, that would have been a great track
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1225 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2016 : 03:24:50
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I'm with Fitzy. Prefer Ring the Bell to G&B. Don't like the bass drum pattern on G&B, always makes me feel the song is getting pulled back/slowed down. Of course I would never have heard the bass drum beats on the original albums because they were either on tape or vinyl and played on cheap stereos.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2016 : 03:48:00
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Where's Bam Thwok?
I recently relisted to that by accident actually. First song I ever bought on iTunes. In retrospect after 10 years or so I thought it sounded alright. If they'd battered out an album then instead of waiting ten years it might have been really good.
Head Carrier was better than Indy Cindy, but if I'm honest it does start to wear after a number of listens. Keep hearing Classic Masher on Radio 6, the new single and it just bores now. |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2016 : 11:17:18
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Silver Snail
"The arc of triumph" |
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =
296 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 03:13:18
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quote:
Originally posted by pot
Where's Bam Thwok?
I recently relisted to that by accident actually. First song I ever bought on iTunes. In retrospect after 10 years or so I thought it sounded alright. If they'd battered out an album then instead of waiting ten years it might have been really good.
Head Carrier was better than Indy Cindy, but if I'm honest it does start to wear after a number of listens. Keep hearing Classic Masher on Radio 6, the new single and it just bores now.
I guess I really associate "Bam Thwok" and "Ain't That Pretty At All" with Pixies 1.0. |
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =
296 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 04:13:06
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Originally posted by Stevio10
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Originally posted by Bedbug
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Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
This whole thread is reminding me how bad IC is as a Pixies album but how it does fine as a solo FB album.
What does that mean? I can't think of any FB solo record that is as bad as Indie Cindy.
Denis
What it means is that whatever ranking you gave to "Frank Black Honeycomb" (let's say you gave it 3/5, I have no idea if you like it or not) you would have given it a lower score (say 1/5) if it were called "The Pixies Honeycomb."
Because IC says "The Pixies" on the cover you automatically connect it back to the five 1.0 albums in a way that you didn't connect NSE or FMRM.
IC sucks as much because of what it isn't rather than what it is. FB singing Another Toe is not as bad as The Pixies singing Kiss My Ring.
I will grant you that I'm not even taking into consideration the production / compression issues of IC, which to me seem the worst of any album Charles has ever done.
Almost all music gets judged on what it isn't as opposed to what it is. When that mind frame is adopted, it just isn't healthy - for any art form.
No dig at anyone but who gives a fuck if it's called pixies, black francis, frank black or Charlie Brown. The same person composed, wrote, sings and plays guitar.
Do Robert Galbraith and Richard Bachman suffer the same fate of being judged by their more famous names.
Bah I'll stand down from my soapbox but art is art - you don't look at a painting and judge it for what it isn't.
FYI - voting Bagboy.
Stevio, just want to add that I agree with much of what you're saying. Their are many non-Pixies FB projects that produced great stuff, that many people judge unfairly.
With that being said, the beauty of this survivor "game" is that the songs can only be judged against each other.
Will kill another track tomorrow. Get your down-vote in! |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 05:56:17
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Originally posted by BunsenH
I guess I really associate "Bam Thwok" and "Ain't That Pretty At All" with Pixies 1.0.
Let's say Pixies 1.5 for the sake or argument |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
851 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 05:58:47
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =
296 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 06:03:51
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Originally posted by pot
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Originally posted by BunsenH
I guess I really associate "Bam Thwok" and "Ain't That Pretty At All" with Pixies 1.0.
Let's say Pixies 1.5 for the sake or argument
I can live with that |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 06:05:43
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That's settled then.
Bam thwok is the transition song. |
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