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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 07/12/2016 : 12:33:10
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| Oh and I also kinda like the opening strums and then the riff comes at a slightly wonky cadence. Reminds me of Bone Machine. I say kinda cause both of them unnerve me slightly. |
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McDutchie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
268 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2016 : 12:50:32
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So I walked the marsh at Bouche De Rhone
This is Bouches-du-Rhône ("Mouths of the Rhône"), an area in southern France by the end of the river Rhône. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouches-du-Rh%C3%B4ne
The lyrics at herfitzpr.com get this wrong.
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2016 : 13:23:39
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Great remarks Sprite
I also like the distortion on Paz vocals on the sentence "cause that crazy stuff got in my brain"
And the siren sound of course
Not a big fan ot the ending ("roooooaaad"), sounds like 30 unnecessary seconds to me (a comment on soundcloud rightly says "lazy" at that time)
Listening again to the full-band version from 2015 (not the acoustic one, the electric one on youtube), the main differences lie in the BF/Paz vocal interplay, and Joey's stuff.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2016 : 13:31:31
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Originally posted by Sprite
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Two listens a day for 6 days and three things I *really* like
1. The shortened second verse 'C'mon maaan'
2. Paz coming on with 'Um chaggaa lagga on the second bar of the 3rd verse'
3. The way the guitar comes crashing in on the third chorus. A production trick I realise but very effective
I'm pretty sure he's saying "cum on me" - which is one hell of a cool way to intro a shift into a chorus (or bridge or solo or whatever). Could be wrong but I'd bet the farm on it.
My density has popped me to you. |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2016 : 13:53:42
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I don't know if some of you still have the Halloween demo of UCL (I do)
BF's guitar sounded so much better. The riff itself was a bit different, and the sound was definitely a crisp Telecaster.
Everything else is better is the new version (I means drums and vocals), but not this guitar
(And the ending was frantic but not cheesy, and not including the last "coming to get me")
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Edited by - sdon on 07/12/2016 14:01:18 |
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Jamie
- FB Fan -
USA
110 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2016 : 13:54:29
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
Could be wrong but I'd bet the farm on it.
Condolences on losing your farm. |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 05:35:52
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Originally posted by sdon
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Originally posted by picpic
just spent a short time scanning through the album lyrics. Looks like a few angry songs are directly addressed to Kim Deal.
yes!
got this feeling from
3 BAAL’S BACK
4 MIGHT AS WELL BE GONE
5 OONA
9 ALL I THINK ABOUT NOW
11 PLASTER OF PARIS
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Well, looks like you were right about #9 at least. |
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
635 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 08:57:30
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| Is it angry though? Thought Charles said it was an open ended thank-you letter to Kim... |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 09:09:04
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Originally posted by yarbles
Is it angry though? Thought Charles said it was an open ended thank-you letter to Kim...
Just saying he was right about that one being ABOUT Kim. Lyrics don't indicate an angry song and plus Paz is singing it so it's probably pleasant. Wilson stated it sounded like another popular Pixies song, so maybe Here Comes Your Man or Gigantic? |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 09:14:40
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I hope it's not yet another Gigantic
Greens and Blues was already written with that "vibration" in mind, if I remember well what BF said
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =
USA
635 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 09:32:01
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| I wouldn't be surprised if this is intended to replace Gigantic.... Female lead vocals over music that sounds like another Pixies song.... |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:23:03
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It sure is
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1335 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:34:55
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| Cum on me? To me the the 'n' seems pretty clearly enunciated. |
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wilson
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:46:23
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| cum on men? |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1335 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:46:24
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Originally posted by sdon
Great remarks Sprite
I also like the distortion on Paz vocals on the sentence "cause that crazy stuff got in my brain"
And the siren sound of course
Not a big fan ot the ending ("roooooaaad"), sounds like 30 unnecessary seconds to me (a comment on soundcloud rightly says "lazy" at that time)
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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"
Yep I hear you on those as well. Looks like there are some nice little details manifesting through the track. FB was very enthusiastic in his praise of Tom Dalgety in the 6music interview. I am so looking forward to the next tracks. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1335 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:47:18
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Originally posted by wilson
cum on men?
C'mon MAN! |
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wilson
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:49:26
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| oh. c'mon me! |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1874 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 20:35:49
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(i'm pasting here the new findings from the live section)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfTvbaPchuY (good quality)
10:35: Head Carrier
28:20: Classic Masher
40:00: Baal's Back
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 21:15:57
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Pretty nice
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken? |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1874 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 22:02:10
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I like Classic Masher but... I don't know... I think an electric/acoustic arrangement a la Where is My Mind would be a better fit. Maybe I'm too familiar with the acoustic version.
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
736 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2016 : 03:16:43
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| Baal's back is good and head carrier's guitar work sounds interesting. I don't really care much for classic masher. |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1874 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2016 : 03:41:01
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I have a feeling Headcarrier is a grower. First listen "yeah...not bad". Then a few months later...: "That's the best fucking song in the world".
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TheScooper
- FB Fan -
USA
187 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2016 : 05:02:09
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Originally posted by picpic
I have a feeling Headcarrier is a grower. First listen "yeah...not bad". Then a few months later...: "That's the best fucking song in the world".
Exactly. It's already happening, and I've only listened to it twice. The first time - this is boring. The second - this is awesome. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE THIRD WILL BRING
Sometimes I forget that there is almost no part of FBF's career that I really liked at first listen, but grew to truly love all of it eventually. |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/14/2016 : 05:52:48
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2016 : 07:01:54
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| They just played UCL on Radio 6 just now. Having heard it, and then had time to digest it and now hearing it again spuriously I have to say I very much approve of this. It has way more of the old Pixies sound and feel to it than anything on Indy Cindy, and reminds me also a lot of the Bluefinger era, in particular Six Legged Man. |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2016 : 09:10:50
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Originally posted by pot
in particular Six Legged Man.
hey, absolutely!
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wilson
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Posted - 07/21/2016 : 13:54:41
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Originally posted by picpic
I have a feeling Headcarrier is a grower. First listen "yeah...not bad". Then a few months later...: "That's the best fucking song in the world".
was initially my least favourite, now it's sailing right up there. |
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2016 : 14:40:51
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Originally posted by wilson
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Originally posted by picpic
I have a feeling Headcarrier is a grower. First listen "yeah...not bad". Then a few months later...: "That's the best fucking song in the world".
was initially my least favourite, now it's sailing right up there.
How is Joey's guitar on HC Wilson? And are Paz's backup vocals prominent on the chorus like the live version suggests?
I have been looking at the lyrics and I'm curious whether the 3 songs added later on, Bel Espirit/Tenement Song/All I Think About Now come off as incomplete or half-asses? I ask because there were a few songs off of IC, Jaime Bravo/Ring The Bell that seemed unfinished or lacking some depth, and I believe those were songs done while recording versus ones they'd prepped prior to the Wales session.
Looking at the lyrics, there are a few tracks that one could suggest look very simple, and I'm hoping those don't come off poorly.
Sep 30th seems so freakin far away. And now I'm curious whether they'll go silent after these festivals or if we get more interviews/articles leading up to HC's release? |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2016 : 17:15:12
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Originally posted by natenate101
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Originally posted by wilson
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Originally posted by picpic
I have a feeling Headcarrier is a grower. First listen "yeah...not bad". Then a few months later...: "That's the best fucking song in the world".
was initially my least favourite, now it's sailing right up there.
Looking at the lyrics, there are a few tracks that one could suggest look very simple, and I'm hoping those don't come off poorly.
Well, many of the best Pixies songs had next to nothing for lyrics content or length wise, it was just certain phrases repeated in different, interesting ways. Maybe the same deal.
My density has popped me to you. |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2016 : 18:36:04
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
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Originally posted by natenate101
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Originally posted by wilson
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Originally posted by picpic
I have a feeling Headcarrier is a grower. First listen "yeah...not bad". Then a few months later...: "That's the best fucking song in the world".
was initially my least favourite, now it's sailing right up there.
Looking at the lyrics, there are a few tracks that one could suggest look very simple, and I'm hoping those don't come off poorly.
Well, many of the best Pixies songs had next to nothing for lyrics content or length wise, it was just certain phrases repeated in different, interesting ways. Maybe the same deal.
My density has popped me to you.
Sure, I get that, and as long as there is interesting music and some tension there it could work. That said, simplicity and repetition in the IC songs I mentioned (Jaime Bravo, Ring the Bell, Magdalena, Snakes) didn't really make for good repeat listening or lasting pleasure. I know some here really like a few of these, but for me they are most of the ones that really didn't live up to the Pixies' legacy. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1335 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2016 : 00:23:46
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"Jaime Bravo, Ring the Bell, Magdalena, Snakes"
You just named my 4 favourite songs off IC. |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
France
786 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2016 : 02:02:15
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I too feel those four songs have a repetitive side
Magdalena probably the worst, because of poor lyrics + oooh's, despite great atmosphere and intention
JaimeBravo definitively too long, otherwisr could have been great and not boring
Ring the Bell, I like it (I think it was part of that initial batch that Kim Deal qualified as "great songs" before accepting to record in Wales), but I thing Gil Norton made it over-mellow
Snakes is a bit different, not flawed by repetition but by simplistic choruses, with lazy lyrics and melody
Live Magdalena and Snakes sound better, but still have those intrinsic structure problems
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2016 : 03:19:17
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Ring the Bell is one of my favourites from Indie Cindy. The dynamics are lost a bit in the production though.
Magelena 318 and Blue Eyed Hexe really drag on the album. Prefer the faster live versions. |
Edited by - Ziggy on 07/22/2016 03:21:04 |
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