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Discoking
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Belgium
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Posted - 10/03/2016 :  23:25:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm not too fond of tenement song.


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Stevio10
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
646 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  02:49:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by sdon

quote:
Originally posted by picpic

quote:
Originally posted by sdon
In a recent interview, Joey says the album title was meant to be Cephalophore
But it ended up as the english translation Head Carrier
Probably for marketing reasons


"Head Carrier" as a title sounds badass. "Cephalophore" feels weird as a title.

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I prefer my Pixies weird than badass :)

If we go by the "title = line from the lyrics" formula, I would have preferred Trapezista (from Jaime Bravo) to Indie Cindy
And Cepalophore to Head Carrier, though the meaning is the same, it sounds more poetic and abstract to me

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According to a dude on the Steve Hoffman forum it was BF's agent Jeff Craft who said no one would be able to pronounce cephalophore and agreed to change it.

Decent forum over there. Nice folks.

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/pixies-head-carrier-9-30-16.562182/page-4
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1159 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  03:06:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wise decision

thanks for the link

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hammerhands
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Canada
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Posted - 10/04/2016 :  07:08:12  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
Still hasn't arrived from Pledge Music...



It looks like they tried to deliver mine yesterday. I should have it in a few minutes.
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
445 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  08:27:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bel Esprit & Plaster Of Paris have been cited by critics as tracks that make little impression. I would've agreed on first or even second listen, but my god do they grow on you! There's some alchemy going on there. One critic (unsurprisingly Australian) mentioned a Go Betweens vibe to Plaster & I can definitely hear that though doubt it was intentional. And that low bass note that someone here noted (sorry forget who) really does transform BE into something special. That such a small thing can do this is magical to me.

I love All I Think About Now, my only gripe that the melody seems a tad underdeveloped to me, and Paz's performance is maybe a little tense?

Anyway, genuinely great album - for me better than Bossanova and at least on a par with Trompe.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5174 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  09:58:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10

quote:
Originally posted by sdon

quote:
Originally posted by picpic

quote:
Originally posted by sdon
In a recent interview, Joey says the album title was meant to be Cephalophore
But it ended up as the english translation Head Carrier
Probably for marketing reasons


"Head Carrier" as a title sounds badass. "Cephalophore" feels weird as a title.

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I prefer my Pixies weird than badass :)

If we go by the "title = line from the lyrics" formula, I would have preferred Trapezista (from Jaime Bravo) to Indie Cindy
And Cepalophore to Head Carrier, though the meaning is the same, it sounds more poetic and abstract to me

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According to a dude on the Steve Hoffman forum it was BF's agent Jeff Craft who said no one would be able to pronounce cephalophore and agreed to change it.

Decent forum over there. Nice folks.

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/pixies-head-carrier-9-30-16.562182/page-4



Plus steve hofman wrote Cecilia Ann!

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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  16:22:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

Plus steve hofman wrote Cecilia Ann!




You know it, billgoodman!

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Stevio10
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
646 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  20:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to go off topic, wasn't Cecilia Ann based on one of Erik Satie's Gnossienne numbers? BF mentioned was working on a piece of his music recently, wonder if it ended up on Head Carrier.

Anyway wish they would include Cecilia Ann in their shoes again, it's a great opener.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1159 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2016 :  21:32:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep

Pixies covered the Surftones, and the Surftones (Steve Hoffmann) based Cecilia Ann on Eric Satie work

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7344

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rivum
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Canada
172 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  03:11:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loving this new record!

One thing I want to mention - I know everyone loves "all I think about now", but am I the only one that really doesn't like the vocal melody? I love Paz's voice, but the descending melody in the "all I think about now" line really doesn't fit well with the song, IMO. Something about it just bugs me.
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Discoking
= Cult of Ray =

Belgium
705 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  03:58:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i've gone shop-crazy on head carrier. getting the album on black, green and pink vinyl. getting the cd from japan (with two bonus tracks, live tracks). already got the box set (with lp + cd), and the normal cd too.


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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1159 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  04:15:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did they really wrote "Bouche de Rhone" on the artwork ? --> Bouches-du-Rhône. I also read "Caphalaphore" instead of "Cephalophore".

http://picclick.ca/2016-PIXIES-Head-Carrier-with-Two-Bonus-Tracks-351857638839.html#&gid=1&pid=2

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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
527 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  04:36:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by picpic

Did they really wrote "Bouche de Rhone" on the artwork ? --> Bouches-du-Rhône. I also read "Caphalaphore" instead of "Cephalophore".

http://picclick.ca/2016-PIXIES-Head-Carrier-with-Two-Bonus-Tracks-351857638839.html#&gid=1&pid=2

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Probably, yeah
I noticed that when the lyrics were disclosed
http://herfitzpr.com/hpr.com/Pixies_Head_Carrier_Lyrics.html

same typos

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TheScooper
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USA
104 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  05:05:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Discoking

i've gone shop-crazy on head carrier. getting the album on black, green and pink vinyl. getting the cd from japan (with two bonus tracks, live tracks). already got the box set (with lp + cd), and the normal cd too.


it's educational



What are the bonus live tracks?
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
527 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  06:04:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheScooper

quote:
Originally posted by Discoking

i've gone shop-crazy on head carrier. getting the album on black, green and pink vinyl. getting the cd from japan (with two bonus tracks, live tracks). already got the box set (with lp + cd), and the normal cd too.


it's educational



What are the bonus live tracks?



Baal's Back and Um Chagga Lagga


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5174 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  07:06:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ohhh need that version!

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Sprite
= Cult of Ray =

664 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  13:11:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Took a few days off from it, listened again this evening and now left with one question. Just how good is All the Saints?
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1159 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  18:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great. Joey guitar is fantastic on this one. Could be on Bossanova/Trompe along with Oona. Those are the 2 gems of this record IMO.

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Sprite
= Cult of Ray =

664 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2016 :  21:43:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes those two in my top 3 at least
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5174 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  01:36:30  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
1 All I Think About Now
2 Baal's Back
3 All the Saints
4 Head Carrier
5 Oona

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Sprite
= Cult of Ray =

664 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  02:50:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right now...

1. Oona
2. All the Saints
3. Plaster of Paris
4. Tenement Song
5. Head Carrier
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
402 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  02:56:58  Show Profile  Click to see Don Eduardo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Because I love lists:

Faves:
1. Head Carrier
2. Might As Well Be Gone
3. All I Think About Now
4. Bel Esprit
5. Baal's Back
6. Classic Masher
7. Oona
8. Plaster Of Paris
9. Um Chagga Lagga
10. All The Saints
11. Tenement Song
12. Talent
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
527 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  06:39:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My list right now

1. Oona
2. All The Saints
3. Plaster Of Paris
4. Classic Masher
5. Baal's Back
6. Head Carrier
7. All I Think About Now
8. Bel Esprit
9. Might As Well Be Gone
10. Um Chagga Lagga
11. Tenement Song
12. Talent


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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3580 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  06:59:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
after a few spins:
-everything is fine, tame
-franks vocals are restrained for the most part, and not in a good way
-on something against your or rock music he sounds unhinged, demonic. on baal's back he sounds like a constipated brian jonhnson
-some nice chord progressions and leads, though for the most part the arrangements are predictable
-dave has more inventiveness, musicality, and spirit in 1:18 of allison than this entire record
-i like paz's vocals
-ballsy to rip off your own most famous song


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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
897 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  09:58:27  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anyone else have "Tenement Song" skip on the side B of the vinyl? I got my set from Pledge Music. I sent them an email as well.

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pixie punk
* Dog in the Sand *

2474 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  10:56:07  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm back after a few days here and I must say I've been blown away by Head Carrier.As a bassist myself I must say I totally adore Paz bass work on Plaster of Paris,Charles storytelling is top notch and can somebody tell me which effect is being used on Charles guitar?It sounds maybe very post punk?Joey's solo in Tenement song is classic.Might As Well Be Gone is beautiful.Talent sounds even better with headphones and Um Chagga Lagga blows away any bad reviews that read that the album looses intensity in the last half.Bel Sprit is pure joy to listen too and so has been the whole record for me.Can't wait for the live versions.OOOOOONNNNAAAA :)

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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1159 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2016 :  11:47:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m
on baal's back he sounds like a constipated brian jonhnson


Haha !! I'm afraid you're right however.

Not enough reverb (?) on his vocals. You're not supposed to hear the vocal trick when a rock singer screams (or pretends he's doing it). They really screwed this one up in the studio.

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Bedbug
= Cult of Ray =

374 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  01:01:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

This is a great album, consistently catchy and with a fun feel to the whole thing. I can totally understand someone putting it in their top 5 favorite Pixies albums.

Head Carrier – This is a great opener and has all the good sounds I was hoping for. “Hey Rusty” gets me pumped every time. Love the way they buried Paz. The line “I’m going down the drain again” always makes me think of Barton Fink, perhaps another head carrier.

Classic Masher – Fun song, although I never understood people’s obsession with it.

Baal’s Back – the only song I’ve skipped so far. It just doesn’t’ work for me. It feels like this is the only song on the album where BF is trying, meaning that every other tune feels effortless. I feel like it would fit better on godweensatan the oneness more than on a Pixies album. Makes me want to listen to the Sad Punk.

You Might As Well Be Gone – Now the album gets really good. One of those FB style songs that keeps you guessing, never knowing where the song is going (like Selkie Bride). Also breaks up the album a bit, kind of like The Vanishing Spies on TOTY.

Oona – What can you say, the man is a genius. Classic FBF. Nobody else is making songs like this. His voice sounds nice and girly at points. Great stuff.

Talent – More fun stuff. Like a said somewhere else, really reminds me of Cult of Ray era FB, which is awesome.

The Tenement Song – the highlight of the album, and the highlight of Pixies 2.0. This song is so savage I can’t even believe he pulled it off. Paz, Joey, the atmosphere, Dave, everything. Just an awesome song. I even like the lame-ass video.

Bel Esprit – Cool song, sticks in my head all day

All I Think About Now – Beautiful, haunting, touching. I really feel he succeeded entirely here. Makes me think about ex-girlfriends.

Um Chagga Lagga – This is some rip roaring fun right here, and after all these months I’m still totally into it. Nice and weird.

Plaster of Paris – Another fun one to get stuck in your head.

All the Saints – Perfect ending to a nearly perfect album

If we get an album like this every couple years (or every single year!) I think we are very fortunate.

Great job Charles and team, thank you!

P.S.

After two albums the only B-side we have is WOW? More B-sides please!

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Sprite
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 10/07/2016 :  03:19:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great post Bedbug. I am nodding along especially to your points on You Might As Well Be Gone, Oona and Tenement Song. But especially Head Carrier: I had the distinct feeling when I hear the 'Hey Rusty' that first time that this album was pure Pixies and everything was going to be AOK.

I am also keenly waiting/hoping for B-sides. From some of the interviews there are snippets that they recorded a few more songs than 12.

Edited by - Sprite on 10/07/2016 04:49:55
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Bedbug
= Cult of Ray =

374 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  03:41:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Sprite, sure hope you're right about those B sides :-)
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Discoking
= Cult of Ray =

Belgium
705 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  06:29:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matto

Anyone else have "Tenement Song" skip on the side B of the vinyl? I got my set from Pledge Music. I sent them an email as well.

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i checked my box set from pledgemusic, and the record doesn't skip here.


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guy from wonderland
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USA
6 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  07:33:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how many songs did they record with Tom? is there a number floating around out there?
quote:
Originally posted by Sprite

Great post Bedbug. I am nodding along especially to your points on You Might As Well Be Gone, Oona and Tenement Song. But especially Head Carrier: I had the distinct feeling when I hear the 'Hey Rusty' that first time that this album was pure Pixies and everything was going to be AOK.

I am also keenly waiting/hoping for B-sides. From some of the interviews there are snippets that they recorded a few more songs than 12.

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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1159 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  08:10:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Drive/Toulon/Lecker maybe

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Bedbug
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374 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  08:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am really hoping for O Little Cloud to show up somewhere soon
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5174 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2016 :  09:35:28  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Alice Prinn was recorded with Norton

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