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bebio
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 Posted - 01/26/2014 : 14:36:12
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 01/27/2014 : 01:04:05
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Originally posted by sdon
Bizarrely, I find TOTY a bit fat,as FB was becoming then, whereas Trompe is still lean and 'fit')
Ha ha !
Thanks for the laugh.
How would you define EP1 / EP2 ? Deflated ? 
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 01/27/2014 : 09:02:35
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Maybe over-dressed
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/28/2014 : 07:07:42
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My impression of the first comments on the official Facebook page when the Pixies post a video for one of the new songs:
"Come to Beijing!"
"Love this song!"
"This is really bad!"
"Is Kim still in the band?"
"Great song."
"Terrible song."
"Pixies, come to Moscow!"
"Awesome song."
"Really bad song."
"Seeing you guys in Atlanta! Will Kim be there?"
"Great new song."
"Lousy new song. What happened?"
"No Kim, no deal."
"This is a great song!"
"Yuck! Bad song!"
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1133 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 09:46:57
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Originally posted by koabac
He may have also been referring to the fact he came into both those sessions with very few completed songs, and everyone was waiting around, pressuring him to finish lyrics. They were forced to go back to some older songs and throw in some covers, etc. He also admits he was smoking a bit too many funny cigarettes to be as focused as he would have liked to have been. I imagine this is why HE thinks he could have done better, but, like R.E.M.'s "Lifes Rich Pageant," which was besieged with the same issues, the results were spectacular to the audience.
I remember when they were starting to record "Trompe," I had dinner with Kim Deal and she was ragging on "Bossanova" because she thought it didn't "rock" enough, but was VERY pleased with the new stuff they were doing for what became "Trompe" because it was going back to what they did best. I argued that "Bossanova" was brilliant and just different than the other stuff, but that they had created a sound unlike anything I had ever heard that still felt "Pixies," but in a totally original way. It became clear that the troubled, frustrating process of creating their albums really fed into what they felt about the results. Many times an artist is the worst judge of their own work.
Thats really interesting, didnt know she was into the trompe sound. All you ever hear reported of that era is how BF supposedly phased her out but I guess music media even then was sensationalist.
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koabac
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Posted - 01/28/2014 : 12:38:07
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Thats really interesting, didnt know she was into the trompe sound. All you ever hear reported of that era is how BF supposedly phased her out but I guess music media even then was sensationalist.
How did you come to have dinner with Kim Deal, if I may ask?
Hey Stevio - Kim was dating (maybe engaged at that point) a writer for Spin magazine and "Guided By Voices" member, Jim Greer, who was a family friend through a relative, who was also a writer for Spin. Jim and Kim were over at my relative's place in Los Angeles at the start of the "Trompe" sessions when my girlfriend at the time, and I, who were also in a band together (and worshipped the Pixies), stopped by and were, of course, stunned to find Kim Deal sitting there. We all had dinner and Kim seriously could NOT have been nicer and cooler (and was, on a side note, absolutely stunningly beautiful in real life- just glowing) and had no problem talking about the Pixies and "Charles" and their various issues. I sensed no animosity from her about the band, but she definitely thought "Bossanova" was a step in the wrong direction. It was clear, however, that she was completely at the mercy of Black Francis' creative whims, which shows that her creative input was minimal, therefore my earlier point about her being given way too much credit for what made the Pixies, the Pixies. I think she's enormously talented, however. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/28/2014 : 22:49:59
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1875 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 23:11:38
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I think the Pixies are 3/4 Frank, 1/4 Joey. Even if I like Dave & Kim very much, they definitely bring something special to Frank/Joey music.
I'm not surprised that Kim hated Bossanova. This record is so... Charles... (& Joey for the surf thing) -and we probably all like it because of that-.
Same for EP1/EP2. The first studio picture we saw last year were Frank/Joey in a studio. I'm not surprised that Kim didn't like the songs. That's just not her taste. And I can understand that. She made a respectable decision by leaving & letting the others do their stuff.
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Classic Masher
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Posted - 01/30/2014 : 16:33:11
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Originally posted by picpic
I think the Pixies are 3/4 Frank, 1/4 Joey. Even if I like Dave & Kim very much, they definitely bring something special to Frank/Joey music.
I'm not surprised that Kim hated Bossanova. This record is so... Charles... (& Joey for the surf thing) -and we probably all like it because of that-.
Same for EP1/EP2. The first studio picture we saw last year were Frank/Joey in a studio. I'm not surprised that Kim didn't like the songs. That's just not her taste. And I can understand that. She made a respectable decision by leaving & letting the others do their stuff.
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I would agree that the songs aren't Kim's style. It's an open secret that Kim always preferred Come On Pilgrim-Doolittle era songs. However, she did hear the demoes and agree to play them. So even though Kim isn't in the band anymore I think she did approve of them. I think she left because she just likes being her own boss and who doesn't. Why be a bassist/back-up singer in a band when you can be the lead singer/guitarist in your OWN band? I think a female voice is missing on some of the EP1 and EP2 songs but I don't think KD would have done any better playing bass than Ding Archer.
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
310 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2014 : 14:27:30
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Classic Masher
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Posted - 01/31/2014 : 15:08:19
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Originally posted by IBreed
the story is kim wanted to do 3-4 or whatever songs. a handful.
Oh, ok. I never heard this. Considering she takes years to write and record a new record for her own band, I guess this shouldn't surprise me. Speaking of which, I wish she'd record with the classic Breeders line-up again...
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/31/2014 : 21:23:29
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 02/01/2014 : 21:48:01
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Originally posted by Stevio10
she did 5 songs in the Wales session before leaving from what BF says in an interview.
Makes me think Another Toe was item no. 6 on the list. A toe too far? I can't see Kim summoning any enthusiasm at learning that one.
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1133 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 05:52:44
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| Another Toe with Kim vocals (main or backing) would have been interesting! |
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 10:32:07
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| Agree, Stevio. Just envisioned her sweet voice in the bkground on that Good catch! |
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 10:44:36
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by Stevio10
she did 5 songs in the Wales session before leaving from what BF says in an interview.
Makes me think Another Toe was item no. 6 on the list. A toe too far? I can't see Kim summoning any enthusiasm at learning that one.
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yeah, i have no idea what kim likes or doesn't like, but based on the music she turns out i can't see her getting excited about another toe. |
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Ranting about reaction to new Pixies EPs
