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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  09:51:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

quote:
Originally posted by Jason
If you want an album, wait for EP 3 or 4 and sequence your own, I say.



Alternatively, you could just buy an album from any number of really great new indie bands coming out these days.



I've listened to a few of the bands you have linked (for example, I enjoy speedy ortiz), but I think you over exaggerate their greatness. I think their are a few seminal rock bands that come around every decade that influence other soon-to-be-forgotten bands. I'm thinking in the league of Velvet Underground, Stooges, Bowie, Talking Heads, Sex Pistols, Clash, Black Flag, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Pixies, Nirvana, Mudhoney, Pavement, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc. etc.
No matter how much you insist that these new pixies sound-alikes are more vital than the current pixies, do not be surprised that people on a FRANK BLACK forum want their pixies-esque indie rock from the source, not from a destined to be historical/musical footnote.
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  10:37:45  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On my fifth spin or so.. Another Toe is my favorite. Frank writes some killer pop songs. The 'quirkier' numbers are missing some of that dynamic rage that people have already mentioned.

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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1335 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  10:58:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage

30+ times! It just came out today man! You're gonna burn out on it before the week is out. Save some enjoyment for later!




johnnyribcage you are right, I've limited myself to just 2 spins today although it is now 10pm and the headphones are calling me...
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1335 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

is the spoken word stuff to replace screaming? i'm fine with these guys making music with no female vocals or screaming and calling it the Pixies. honestly. call it what you will here.




That sounds plausible. I noticed Frank was posting a few tweets recently mentioning Fall songs and the like and I'm definitely picking up a Fall vibe in places with the new songs.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1335 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:17:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I believe the Blink 182-quote was mine. can I take it back? Of course it sounds nothing like Blink 182 in terms of songwriting. It's just the production of the guitar and vocals. But I don't think Blink ever sounded that way. My bad.

Still, it's like a very very slick Foo Fighters. Which is ok I guess. I read on Twitter that somebody compared the vocals of Indy Cindy to the Red Hot Chili Peppers.




OK I can see your point as regards slick Foo Fighters. Except for the instrumental break which is beyond them.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:26:00  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brank_Flack

I've listened to a few of the bands you have linked (for example, I enjoy speedy ortiz), but I think you over exaggerate their greatness. I think their are a few seminal rock bands that come around every decade that influence other soon-to-be-forgotten bands. I'm thinking in the league of Velvet Underground, Stooges, Bowie, Talking Heads, Sex Pistols, Clash, Black Flag, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Pixies, Nirvana, Mudhoney, Pavement, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc. etc.
No matter how much you insist that these new pixies sound-alikes are more vital than the current pixies, do not be surprised that people on a FRANK BLACK forum want their pixies-esque indie rock from the source, not from a destined to be historical/musical footnote.



They are all good bands that can play and have their own qualities, much like the pixies in their hey day. Will they become legends in their own way, only time will tell. All I'm saying is there is a lot more enjoyment to be derived there than from 'Pixies' as they are now. I know what's on my playlist and it's not been new Pixies material for a long time, and I don't see that changing.
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pixie punk
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  13:04:22  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
About Edward Thatch also known as Edward Teach mentioned in Another Toe In The Ocean thats The Pirate Blackbeard.Unexplained lights at sea are often referred to as Teach Lights which are believed to be his ghost.

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =

310 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  13:20:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'd love to hear Frank's thoughts on 'another toe'. not because i feel he needs to defend or justify his work (never), but because it's such a departure for the pixies. hell, it's such a departure for EP1. it's not personally my thing, but it's still intriguing contextually. it almost feels like the quirkiness i assumed was inherent in Frank's writing was intentionally ironed out... save for the sweet, sweet totally Pixie-esque bridge.

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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  13:29:31  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

quote:
Originally posted by Sprite
But the main thing I'm hearing from the 5 new tracks is progression, an older more mature sound and not that of a band trying to force an old style. And that makes me stoked about seeing them live and hearing the next bunch of tracks.




Ah that old chestnut. Progression, now there's an artistic euphemism if there ever was one.

I keep coming back to this and relistening to see if there is ANYTHING positive I can derive from it, and it's sparse.

I absolutely hate this EP and want things to go back to the way they were before all these stupid rumours started flying around. Be careful what you wish for..



At the risk of drawing the ire of the infamous pot: we get it man, you hate it. Rock on. Pretty much everyone else here is enjoying the party. Why are you here bashing it like it's a stock you've sold short?



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markos
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55 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  13:52:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This EP is fantastic. Screw the haters- along with Bagboy this is the best and most interesting Frank material for years... There is an energy and vitality to these songs that is really quite remarkable. Frank sounds youthful as hell for the most part, and as for all the 'where's Joey' weirdness, er... he's all over the place and his playing is great and completely individualistic.

It's not flawless. Of course not. I like the production but agree it's not quite as on point as Bagboy's was. But I'm more than willing to forgive that after the years of live recordings and no overdubs etc. It still sounds great. Really great.

I can see why people would have issues with Andro Queen and Another Toe. I think they are very solid and massive growers too. But Indie Cindy is truly majestic. What a song. It's like Trompe meeting the outro to Los Angeles, and yields further subtleties with each listen. Soooo good. And What goes Boom is just a straight up classic. Its straight up there with the likes of Alec Eiffel. Love the chord changes in the chorus and backing melodies.

So 5 new songs and 3 of them essentially ten out of tens for me with the other two highly decent also. Not bloody bad.

But negativity is all the rage these days. I'm just so happy this stuff is out there and can't wait for more. Oh God i wish there was an album!

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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  14:11:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by markos

This EP is fantastic. Screw the haters- along with Bagboy this is the best and most interesting Frank material for years... There is an energy and vitality to these songs that is really quite remarkable. Frank sounds youthful as hell for the most part, and as for all the 'where's Joey' weirdness, er... he's all over the place and his playing is great and completely individualistic.

It's not flawless. Of course not. I like the production but agree it's not quite as on point as Bagboy's was. But I'm more than willing to forgive that after the years of live recordings and no overdubs etc. It still sounds great. Really great.

I can see why people would have issues with Andro Queen and Another Toe. I think they are very solid and massive growers too. But Indie Cindy is truly majestic. What a song. It's like Trompe meeting the outro to Los Angeles, and yields further subtleties with each listen. Soooo good. And What goes Boom is just a straight up classic. Its straight up there with the likes of Alec Eiffel. Love the chord changes in the chorus and backing melodies.

So 5 new songs and 3 of them essentially ten out of tens for me with the other two highly decent also. Not bloody bad.

But negativity is all the rage these days. I'm just so happy this stuff is out there and can't wait for more. Oh God i wish there was an album!





Right there with ya man.

pixie punk said,"About Edward Thatch also known as Edward Teach mentioned in Another Toe In The Ocean thats The Pirate Blackbeard.Unexplained lights at sea are often referred to as Teach Lights which are believed to be his ghost.".

^This is the kinda backstory that makes everyone appreciate BF's writing. Always more than meets the eye. Hoping for more tracks with odd origins and subject matter disguised as interesting rock songs.

4-5 eps sounds about right. 3-4 songs apiece, released early Sept, Dec/Jan, Mar/Apr, July/August, Nov/Dec. Makes sense to have 1-2 strong songs mixed with more album-cut type of tracks. At the end, have a standard version with the stronger stuff, and a deluxed with all eps combined.
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ChienAndalou22
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58 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  14:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I reckon What Goes Boom sounds a lot more like Rock Music than it does anything from Trompe Le Monde. I think the whole EP in general sounds most like Bossanova of all of the albums.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  14:31:02  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChienAndalou22

I reckon What Goes Boom sounds a lot more like Rock Music than it does anything from Trompe Le Monde. I think the whole EP in general sounds most like Bossanova of all of the albums.



Definitely an extension of the Boss and Tromp. If this had came out in 94 I doubt anyone would have batted an eye. Sounds like they picked up where they left off to me.



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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  14:54:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got an e-mail notification that the 10" has now shipped.

NEATO.

Edited by - Jason on 09/04/2013 14:54:25
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  14:57:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, yet, but the vinyl is now sold out. It lasted one day.
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  15:05:07  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=33020

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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  17:37:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry if was posted before, andro queen live, bf & jeremy dubs

http://youtu.be/I7hyNoKPdsk
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  21:12:53  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage  Reply with Quote
New review:

Songs/riffs/ideas/beats - GREAT!
"Album" - over produced and muddled.

I can barely hear the song/passion through the production.

1c
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1120 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  21:30:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

Also, I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, yet, but the vinyl is now sold out. It lasted one day.


that's impressive.

but as someone mentioned earlier, a lot of those copies probably went to ebay resellers. (i hope not, though.)


it's educational
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  22:11:29  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
's alright, no great shakes. At least there are no Kim Deal "soundalike" vocals to deal with.

I think the first two songs are the better ones. "Indie Cindy" is sort of overcooked, and "What Goes Boom" sounds restrained. I hope the other EPs are a bit more adventurous.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  22:28:31  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I didn't realise I was part of a must like every single thing Frank Black releases club. Take a look at some of the comments by people on other web sites. I'm not the only cunt out there who doesn't like it.

I don't get it being a Pixies record. When FB went solo and still had Joey on guitar he didn't call it the Pixies, even though back then it could have passed for such. Now after all these years it's the Pixies again. I can take these songs as FB solo works, but without some Kimmy backing vocals or better song writing it's not worthy of being called Pixies and anyone who thinks it is is either deluding themselves, or cashing in on it.

I'm going to speculate at this point that the reason Kim pulled out half way into the recordings was because she realised the album sucked.

Edited by - pot on 09/04/2013 22:42:16
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  22:50:23  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

Also, I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, yet, but the vinyl is now sold out. It lasted one day.



I guess then they know now to print off double copies for the next one.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  23:25:50  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot
I don't get it being a Pixies record. When FB went solo and still had Joey on guitar he didn't call it the Pixies, even though back then it could have passed for such. Now after all these years it's the Pixies again.



Now this I agree with. As said somewhere else, I find it hilarious that we basically got Frank Black songs with a new (great) backing band, and suddenly it's all over the news and the shows are sold out. I'm fine with this.

quote:

I can take these songs as FB solo works, but without some Kimmy backing vocals or better song writing it's not worthy of being called Pixies



Not worthy? Now it's you who's making this place look like a cult.


Denis


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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  23:28:55  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
New Pixies songs will NEVER live up to past standards because they simply CAN'T ! We grew up with the old songs and they're part of us, nothing can live up to that, we just have to accept them as what they are : new (Pixies) songs.

That being said, I still think What goes boom is the weakest song of the EP and Andro Queen a masterpiece !
I don't understand the hate for Another Toe, great pop song to me !
Indie Cyndy is a grower because of such a catchy chorus but I still don't like the "talking vocals".


ps: we don't like everything Frank releases here (though this is a fb fan site so that wouldn't surprise me if it happened). Go read the Honeycomb reviews for instance !
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  23:38:57  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
From here on anything that 'the Pixies' release I'm going to listen to and imagine it's just another solo FB release and see if that alters my perception of it.
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
514 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  23:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is some absolutely killer melodies on this EP. Like manna from rock n roll heaven. There are pieces in Joey's guitar breaks and BF's vocals that are revealing themselves more and more with every listen.

This will be much loved in time. Like all Franks work it takes time to make you fall in love with it. But it's inevitable you will fall in love with it. Fight it now, but its coming for you. Like Trompe and Bossa its has its detractors but it really is great quality. Its epic in scale.

By the way Pot, it's the guy's band. What's your issue? You want them to rename the band to ease your confusion? Kim's gone man, yeah she would have added greatly to the sum of these parts and i would have loved her bass and sweet vocals but she's not there. The Pixies want to continue and why shoudn't they? When they started rehearsing again for this record it was the magic quadrant. Then she left, its a fucking mindset man. Ok Kims gone lets rename our band in sympathy with her decision. She doesnt have the power to dissolve the Pixies man. She wanted out. Good luck. The guys are the Pxies, the world wants a pixies record. As for you writing off the other 12/14 songs based on this ep? You know FB \ BF and Charles are the same guy right? Its all coming from the same brain, the same melodic genius. If you dont like this, check out the next one.

Every record Frank makes it not what is expected, and i love him for that. Imagine the scrutiny he is under and he still produces. Go Pixies.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3910 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  23:55:11  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SamBy the way Pot, it's the guy's band. What's your issue? You want them to rename the band to ease your confusion? Kim's gone man, yeah she would have added greatly to the sum of these parts and i would have loved her bass and sweet vocals but she's not there. The Pixies want to continue and why shoudn't they? When they started rehearsing again for this record it was the magic quadrant. Then she left, its a fucking mindset man. Ok Kims gone lets rename our band in sympathy with her decision. She doesnt have the power to dissolve the Pixies man. She wanted out. Good luck. The guys are the Pxies, the world wants a pixies record. As for you writing off the other 12/14 songs based on this ep? You know FB \ BF and Charles are the same guy right? Its all coming from the same brain, the same melodic genius. If you dont like this, check out the next one.

Every record Frank makes it not what is expected, and i love him for that. Imagine the scrutiny he is under and he still produces. Go Pixies.



My problem is they have a new Kim so why don't they utilise her? How long has she been in the band now. Why are they still releasing stuff with Ding and Dubs, it's too much of a cock fest. Pixies for me was always about the female-male vocal screaming-whispering combo, that's what defined them for me and spawned many bands like them. Without that this is just another FB solo record. I think they should have gotten back in the studio and rerecorded the entire album with new Kim rather than trying to patch up what they already have, maybe ever rewrite some of it. This approach doesn't seem to have worked out. It doesn't even have to be in Wales, Jason Carter has a great studio right where they live and he is also a good producer.

I take your point that they are entitled to call it the Pixies if they want, and I suppose it is 3/4 of the original line up. By the same token I am also entitled to think of it is a just another FB solo record though.

I predict that no-one will care about these releases in years to come and they will be considered a blemish on the Pixies' legacy.

Edited by - pot on 09/05/2013 00:07:49
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
514 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2013 :  00:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

quote:
Originally posted by SamBy the way Pot, it's the guy's band. What's your issue? You want them to rename the band to ease your confusion? Kim's gone man, yeah she would have added greatly to the sum of these parts and i would have loved her bass and sweet vocals but she's not there. The Pixies want to continue and why shoudn't they? When they started rehearsing again for this record it was the magic quadrant. Then she left, its a fucking mindset man. Ok Kims gone lets rename our band in sympathy with her decision. She doesnt have the power to dissolve the Pixies man. She wanted out. Good luck. The guys are the Pxies, the world wants a pixies record. As for you writing off the other 12/14 songs based on this ep? You know FB \ BF and Charles are the same guy right? Its all coming from the same brain, the same melodic genius. If you dont like this, check out the next one.

Every record Frank makes it not what is expected, and i love him for that. Imagine the scrutiny he is under and he still produces. Go Pixies.



My problem is they have a new Kim so why don't they utilise her? How long has she been in the band now. Why are they still releasing stuff with Ding and Dubs, it's too much of a cock fest. Pixies for me was always about the female-male vocal screaming-whispering combo, that's what defined them for me and spawned many bands like them. Without that this is just another FB solo record. I think they should have gotten back in the studio and rerecorded the entire album with new Kim rather than trying to patch up what they already have, maybe ever rewrite some of it. This approach doesn't seem to have worked out. It doesn't even have to be in Wales, Jason Carter has a great studio right where they live and he is also a good producer.

I predict that no-one will care about these releases in years to come and they will be considered a blemish on the Pixies' legacy.




My guess is she came in too late Pot. The demos were done with JDubs before Kim D had left. Kim D must have been handed those demos and asked to replicate or whatever. I don't know obviously. But if Kim S was all over it and it didn't sound like the original Kim there would be uproar as well.

Its a bummer no doubt, its the 4 of them that made those killer records and Kim D was a huge part. But those toerh vital 3 parts are there and functioning beautifully. My first listen, i was a little underwhelmed, and i agree with you about the intro to Indie Ciny, i really wish it didnt sound like some thing off Be here now. However when it gets going it is Pixies all the way. I love it.

My one gripe is that i would rather is a little more roughly produced. I would have loved to see EDF or Albini produce it, or maybe the guy who does the Tinairwen records.

With regard Ding n Dubs, its just looking for a fuller, more textured sound. BF had Bob Santiago and EDF on Trompe for the same reason.






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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1120 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2013 :  01:32:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pot

I didn't realise I was part of a must like every single thing Frank Black releases club. Take a look at some of the comments by people on other web sites. I'm not the only cunt out there who doesn't like it.

I don't get it being a Pixies record. When FB went solo and still had Joey on guitar he didn't call it the Pixies, even though back then it could have passed for such. Now after all these years it's the Pixies again. I can take these songs as FB solo works, but without some Kimmy backing vocals or better song writing it's not worthy of being called Pixies and anyone who thinks it is is either deluding themselves, or cashing in on it.

I'm going to speculate at this point that the reason Kim pulled out half way into the recordings was because she realised the album sucked.


semantics, schmemantics.

i think you're a dramatic crybaby.
nobody is telling anyone to like or dislike the new tracks, no matter what name they're released under.


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lucmove
- FB Fan -

Brazil
116 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2013 :  02:15:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

quote:
Originally posted by ChienAndalou22

I reckon What Goes Boom sounds a lot more like Rock Music than it does anything from Trompe Le Monde. I think the whole EP in general sounds most like Bossanova of all of the albums.



Definitely an extension of the Boss and Tromp. If this had came out in 94 I doubt anyone would have batted an eye. Sounds like they picked up where they left off to me.



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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
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Anyone who thinks that this EP is overproduced should probably realize that Doolittle, by the same standards, is over produced, and Bossanova, and everything Gill Norton does. To call this over produced is classic snobbery and is moronic. Just enjoy the damn audio that can only exist by utilizing a studio properly.

It truly sounds great. The subtle guitar tones and layering really make these songs come to life.
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~

United Kingdom
435 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2013 :  02:34:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pot, I'm glad for the energy you bring with you to this forum but you sure have a unique ability to bring everyone down. I realise I'm only adding to it but too many discussions on this forum swing away from the subject and get dragged into the gravity of your bad vibes.

I've no idea what I think of these new tracks yet. It's not exactly shocking that they sound more like NSE than Trompe le Monde. A lot of time has passed. I'm glad they've got over the whole protecting the legacy thing and have been brave enough to create something they believe in and put it out there to be judged. I can't get on board with this idea that the genius of the original Pixies albums should be some kind of cross that FB should have to bear. We have been in a period since somewhere around fastman raiderman where the man's music and my tastes have diverted to some extent but I don't get this feeling that he owes me another great pixies album that perfectly fits the unrealistic (and given my musical talents, probably supremely lame) expectations I've built up in my head. It's quite the opposite - in this imaginary relationship between me and FB's music, he owes me nothing and I'm massively indebted to him for the countless hours I've been able to spend joyfully listening. I'm never going to wish the four of those guys anything but huge success, whether what they're releasing is of interest to me or not.

Back to EP1... the spoken parts seem like a real change in tone to me. They sound a lot more aggressive in a kind of weird macho way that is something I don't recall hearing in anything else in the back catalogue. I'm finding them really jarring so far.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  02:44:46  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Spoken verses are not exactly new though. I've Been Tired, Bone Machine, Santo, Subbacultcha have spoken parts. Also Threshold Apprehension and The Seus... probably more.


Denis


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lucmove
- FB Fan -

Brazil
116 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2013 :  02:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ

Anyone who thinks that this EP is overproduced should probably realize that Doolittle, by the same standards, is over produced, and Bossanova, and everything Gill Norton does. To call this over produced is classic snobbery and is moronic. Just enjoy the damn audio that can only exist by utilizing a studio properly.

It truly sounds great. The subtle guitar tones and layering really make these songs come to life.



I think Doolittle is nothing compared to Bossanova (a theremin? really?) and Trompe Le Monde, and even less compared to the yellow album and Teenager of the Year.

And I love that stuff. I think it's such an enrichening experience. It emphasizes Charles' genius, all the subtleties spring up to life and full color.

TOTY is a merciless sprawl. It opens with two brilliant straight punches to the chin, then travels forward into the future, counts the stars with Jean Marie, extolls the Three Stooges, an aqueduct, a shopping mall, an abstract plain, Mars, a freak show, the citizen's band, Sasquatch, noise makers, lots more, and ends with a bang. Several books worth of lyrics, lots of razor sharp guitars, sax, keyboards, percussion, don't know what else, amounting to no less than 23 unforgettable tracks. That is one album that put most of the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame to shame and must have made a bunch of hacks stay indoors for a couple of weeks until their embarrassment subsided.

Oddballs is another album that I really love. Andro Queen reminds me of Man of Steel, by the way.

It took me a while to stomach the Catholics era. Great songs, but too raw.

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Edited by - lucmove on 09/05/2013 02:50:36
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Originally posted by vilainde

Spoken verses are not exactly new though. I've Been Tired, Bone Machine, Santo, Subbacultcha have spoken parts. Also Threshold Apprehension and The Seus... probably more.



It's not the fact that they're new but more that the tone feels entirely different to me. In Andro Queen they feel much more forced and macho/aggressive in a way that turns me off.

Maybe there are similarities to those parts in the The Seus. I need to go back and listen.

In a way it's one of the only areas in EP1 where I feel like FB is looking back at a list of characteristics that make up a classic pixies song and attempting to tick a box. And in doing so it sounds a bit fakey and forced to my ears.
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