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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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 Posted - 06/28/2013 : 18:51:12
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Classic Masher
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Posted - 06/28/2013 : 18:51:19
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Originally posted by blckfrncs
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Originally posted by Classic Masher
So good! I would've started off with "Classic Masher" (of course) which I think could be as big as "Here Comes Your Man" for the Pixies. But still, it sounds like the Pixies. Thought sure that was Kim singing.
I can't imagine there won't be an album. Why release only one song (and this one? Which is good but not as Pixies-ish as the others we've heard him play live solo)? Also, I don't think they'd have a video and all new art and logos for one song. "Bam Thwok" only got a shot of the band as it's "cover". Maybe they're making videos for every song and releasing it as a film not an album? Charles did say the song was originally written for a film that never got off the ground...
"Next message is from Suriname, please authenticate..."
MIXED MESSAGES FROM SIR NAFF / PLEASE AUTHENTICATE
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Charles- I'm sure you aren't allowed to say if there will be a new album or not yet. But could you at least tell us if we will hear more from the Pixies?
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 18:53:00
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
851 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 18:57:56
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Originally posted by windupbird
I like this new song. I just like that you never know exactly what to expect, musically, lyrically... Also, it reminds me of when the reunion thing happened - it feels like: OK, there's a new song, the world hasn't exploded, we are all adjusting to the fact, now everything is fine so hey, I guess it's ok to make some music. Cool.
Very well put. Hope they keep it going this time. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 19:07:44
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 21:38:29
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Originally posted by pot
How is he not allowed to say? It's his album, he can say what he likes about it. The reason it's all so elusive is down to him.
It's a bit more complicated than that. Whether you're working with a label or a promotion team for your own label, there is a careful timeline for these things. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2013 : 23:47:13
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Originally posted by pixiestu
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Aw man, this is the best. I'm so glad we're all back together and stuff.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Hey Mike, where have you been!?
"The arc of triumph"
Hi Stu - getting married, addicted to an online football manager game, playing a lot more football in real life, gym - various stuff that took me away.
Nothing like a new Pixies song to bring me back though.
How are you? What's been going down around here?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 00:12:12
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christ, bit of new pixies shakes off the cobwebs.
good times.
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
310 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 04:49:37
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Originally posted by blckfrncs
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Originally posted by Classic Masher
So good! I would've started off with "Classic Masher" (of course) which I think could be as big as "Here Comes Your Man" for the Pixies. But still, it sounds like the Pixies. Thought sure that was Kim singing.
I can't imagine there won't be an album. Why release only one song (and this one? Which is good but not as Pixies-ish as the others we've heard him play live solo)? Also, I don't think they'd have a video and all new art and logos for one song. "Bam Thwok" only got a shot of the band as it's "cover". Maybe they're making videos for every song and releasing it as a film not an album? Charles did say the song was originally written for a film that never got off the ground...
"Next message is from Suriname, please authenticate..."
MIXED MESSAGES FROM SIR NAFF / PLEASE AUTHENTICATE
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Bf
Is that a hint as to what's coming next? 
I wonder if this project will result in a series of EPs? We know Bagboy is only the beginning, and with the confirmation there's no album, they've got to come out in some manner. I'm an impatient person so the news of 'no new album' isn't entirely met with open arms, but I'm along for the ride regardless. Gimme Greens and Blues.
Joey's guitar in Bagboy is more demented than ever. The first time it comes on... unbelievable. And 2:54 - 2:59. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 05:14:41
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
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Originally posted by pixiestu
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Aw man, this is the best. I'm so glad we're all back together and stuff.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Hey Mike, where have you been!?
"The arc of triumph"
Hi Stu - getting married, addicted to an online football manager game, playing a lot more football in real life, gym - various stuff that took me away.
Nothing like a new Pixies song to bring me back though.
How are you? What's been going down around here?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Stu won the FA Cup for starters. Nice to see you. You still on the trains?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 05:23:19
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Hi tro - yep still on the trains.
I forgot about that - belated congratulations Stu. I hope your next visit to Wembley is not a happy one though.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 05:24:38
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brickisred
- FB Fan -
France
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 06:30:36
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Some French sites are announcing two dates in Paris, September 29 and 30, at the Olympia, where "new songs" would be played. |
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The Maharal
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 08:13:15
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boner machine
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 08:14:19
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am i wrong for expecting this to actually sound like the pixies?
when i first heard it i felt like my dog just died. then i came here and read the comments about it sounding like it came from svn fngrs, and yeah thinking of it like that it's alright, but as a pixies song?
just my opinion btw, just burn my house down :)
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brickisred
- FB Fan -
France
141 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 08:33:05
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Well, did Doolittle sound like the Pixies when it came out? Bossanova? Trompe Le Monde?
People tend to forget that the Pixies always evolved. |
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 08:34:13
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Bands evolve. People would still be moaning if it was a retread of Doolittle. I can hear bits of BF solo, The Seus, but there's still a lot of Pixies in there like Joey's fucking sublime guitar and Black's "bagboy!!!" yelp which reminds me of Manta Ray. Then there's the electronic stuff which surprised me at first but it sounds good.
Long live Charles Thompson. |
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 08:35:22
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This sounds a lot to me like the latter-day Black Francis solo stuff, like Virginia Reel and the Seus especially. I prefer it when Charles is singing not art-talking but the chorus here is pure Pixies hey-day, and really starting to grow on me (five listens later, the shock of the new wearing off...)
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:05:04
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Hi tro - yep still on the trains.
I forgot about that - belated congratulations Stu. I hope your next visit to Wembley is not a happy one though.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
what's up homers? why did you leave me?
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ChienAndalou22
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:16:13
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
310 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:16:28
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Bagboy definitely sounds like an organic progression from BF's recent solo records, which only makes sense. I'm assuming those songs came as naturally* to him as the Pixies material did back in the day.
*slight caveat: 'naturally' may be a disrespect to BF's craft. I know he works hard, but the material doesn't sound forced**.
**to me. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:18:39
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Me, I'm good at avoiding the sky-high, often insurmountable, expectations that some people have for things like this. Some people want a song that sounds like 22 years of pent-up expression unleashed. They want something that takes them back to the past, but sounds comfortable in the present. They want the "new Pixies masterpiece" that they've been imagining, in abstract terms, in their own head for years and years.
Some of them just want something to complain about because they get just as much, or more, pleasure out of that as they do about enjoying something.
Me, I just want a cool rock song. I'm not looking for music to save my life. I'm not looking for a legacy to be preserved. I'll just take a cool rock song. That's it. And this song passes that test for me. I like the Fall comparison that some have made. I also hear some Stooges in there (and, of course, Black Francis's own weirdness). I like the song's drive and I like Frank's carnival barker vocals. If I had never heard of Frank or the Pixies in my life, I think this would still pique my interest. It's a weird song with weird lyrics and a sense of humor.
I have no argument with anyone else's opinion here, by the way (I NEVER argue over opinion--not in a serious way, at least). I think everyone here is perfectly sincere, whether they like the song or not. And I'm being sincere with my opinion, too. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:32:10
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Hi tro - yep still on the trains.
I forgot about that - belated congratulations Stu. I hope your next visit to Wembley is not a happy one though.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
what's up homers? why did you leave me?
green star member since 2006. smb?
Nobody waits 6 days for a call.
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brickisred
- FB Fan -
France
141 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:35:13
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Don't take it as an argument Jason but... I like your post very much. |
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:43:42
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Yeah, great post, Jason. You're so right about years of pent of expectation, etc.
I can't wait until the rest of the songs are released, especially the poppier numbers. I wonder if they'll make a difference? At the same time, it was inspired to lead with something weirder: it was a clear indication this 'reunion' isn't shying away from what made the Pixies stand out. This isn't "Zeitgeist".
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:47:09
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I just wanted to jump back on here to say, regardless of whether it's Kim or Violet on the track, I really like it!
I know people will bemoan every little facet of the song because of their expectations and nostalgia, but come on, it's a good track! Well, at least It gave this sentimental Pixies fan a smile.
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
912 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:49:07
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:53:57
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i like Jason's post too, though i would take argument with it (even though Jason doesn't argue). it's a bit extreme to suggest that everyone else is expecting some kind mind blowing song that will save their life. with Jason it almost sounds like he's lowered his expectations. or, is ok with just a "cool rock song". i agree that it would be unrealistic to expect it to sound like the Pixies 22 years ago. but there is some middle ground between mind blowing and "it's good enough"
for me, if they are going to release a new album i'm going to compare it to their past work. how can i not?
maybe with other music just a cool rock song would be good enough for me .. some song on the radio that i'll enjoy for what it is. but with Pixies it's different.
does that mean if i'm disappointed i'm going to sink into a deep depression or put out a youtube video of me crying? no. but i'm going to honest about it however it comes out. i still look forward to the new album, but admittedly with trepidation
i know, i'm no fun
[edit] as an aside, the video was directed by these guys, if anyone is curious. hadn't heard of em but was curious
http://www.lamarplusnik.com/index.html
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 09:55:09
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Hi tro - yep still on the trains.
I forgot about that - belated congratulations Stu. I hope your next visit to Wembley is not a happy one though.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
what's up homers? why did you leave me?
green star member since 2006. smb?
Nobody waits 6 days for a call.
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Ed is the hoo hoo
heh
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 10:02:38
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Originally posted by s_wrenn
but come on, it's a good track! Well, at least It gave this sentimental Pixies fan a smile.
Best post so far. Hi sean.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 10:14:29
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by s_wrenn
but come on, it's a good track! Well, at least It gave this sentimental Pixies fan a smile.
Best post so far. Hi sean.
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Ed is the hoo hoo
i give it 6 out of 10
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 10:21:57
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Originally posted by floop
i like Jason's post too, though i would take argument with it (even though Jason doesn't argue). it's a bit extreme to suggest that everyone else is expecting some kind mind blowing song that will save their life. with Jason it almost sounds like he's lowered his expectations. or, is ok with just a "cool rock song". i agree that it would be unrealistic to expect it to sound like the Pixies 22 years ago. but there is some middle ground between that and "it's good enough"
for me, if they are going to release a new song or album i'm going to compare it to their past work. how can i not?
maybe with other music "a cool rock song" would be good enough for me.. some song on the radio that i'll enjoy for what it is. but with Pixies i think it's different.
does that mean if i'm disappointed i'm going to sink into a deep depression or put out a youtube video of me crying? no. but i'm going to honest about it however it comes out. i still look forward to the new album, but admittedly with trepidation
i know, i'm no fun
green star member since 2006. smb?
I don't get into "that song sucks!" vs. "that song rules!" type of arguments, but I'm always (or often... or sometimes... or once every three months, at least) up for some more meaty discussion.
And I'll add that I don't think that anyone on Earth who doesn't like this song does so because of unrealistic expectations. I'll also add that I come with my own bias, which is that I really like Frank's music, all phases of it. |
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 10:23:34
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Hey, thank you Tro!
And I thought I would have done better than 6 Floop! I removed 2 paragraphs of smiley's from that post, for a 6?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2013 : 10:40:14
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Originally posted by Jason
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Originally posted by floop
i like Jason's post too, though i would take argument with it (even though Jason doesn't argue). it's a bit extreme to suggest that everyone else is expecting some kind mind blowing song that will save their life. with Jason it almost sounds like he's lowered his expectations. or, is ok with just a "cool rock song". i agree that it would be unrealistic to expect it to sound like the Pixies 22 years ago. but there is some middle ground between that and "it's good enough"
for me, if they are going to release a new song or album i'm going to compare it to their past work. how can i not?
maybe with other music "a cool rock song" would be good enough for me.. some song on the radio that i'll enjoy for what it is. but with Pixies i think it's different.
does that mean if i'm disappointed i'm going to sink into a deep depression or put out a youtube video of me crying? no. but i'm going to honest about it however it comes out. i still look forward to the new album, but admittedly with trepidation
i know, i'm no fun
green star member since 2006. smb?
I don't get into "that song sucks!" vs. "that song rules!" type of arguments, but I'm always (or often... or sometimes... or once every three months, at least) up for some more meaty discussion.
And I'll add that I don't think that anyone on Earth who doesn't like this song does so because of unrealistic expectations. I'll also add that I come with my own bias, which is that I really like Frank's music, all phases of it.
that was the point i thought i was trying to make. it's not a simple matter of it sucks or rules. in any case, i think it's growing on me
with all due respect jason you often say i don't argue opinion etc yet you often follow that up with an opinionated argument. are you from the midwest?
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/29/2013 : 12:45:55
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Originally posted by Brank_Flack
I think the production is quite good and the addition of some electronic elements worked very well. I love when the drums really kick in around 4:05.
Completely agree. And that's probably my favourite part of the song. It's such a rush to hear them drums thundering away again!
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'Bagboy' - a new Pixies song
