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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 06/17/2013 : 15:59:00
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Moonruler: "If Santiago and Francis are in a band, they are the Pixies". So I guess all the albums Joey and Frank did together ("Frank Black".. "TOTY"..."DITS"...."Devil's Workshop"...."Fastman"...etc) could be called
"The Pixies"? Interesting. |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/17/2013 : 16:51:19
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| And Joey and Dave were/are in the Pixies and they formed a band called the Everybody but that was also the Pixies, so at last...Everybody is the Pixies. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/17/2013 : 21:38:23
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I don't think Joey played on Fastman
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/17/2013 : 22:12:31
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Me and Arm Arm Arm are the Pixies!
BTW, Kim GORDON has the most gorgeous freakin legs for a woman (of 55-ish?) |
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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 04:07:44
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| As someone said before, Black Francis could get a band of session guys and tour under the Pixies brand, but he hasn't. The Pixies with Joey and Dave (and EDF?) would still be pretty close to the Pixies, much like the Stones with Keef, Mick and Charlie still resemble the original band (despite losing key members Brian Jones and Mick Taylor). They are more of a band than Axl Rose's version of GNR, Billy Corgan's version of SP and Coutney Love's version of Hole. Fans should still realise the Pixies are very much still alive and are not pulling the wool over our eyes with their current line-up. |
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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 04:08:14
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| Oh, and Kim Gordon is 60 and still a babe. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 04:14:50
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^snow tiger
Couldn't you say Bluefinger and svn fngrs were touring under the Pixies brand with session guys, sort of? I think it's suffice to say the material presented was probably written with an actual Pixies album in mind. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 05:23:23
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Hey, maybe Sonic Youth could reform with Kim Deal on bass...
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 05:46:36
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| Cool, maybe we'd get a new Sonic Youth album sometime this century. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 07:30:42
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Originally posted by Helmut
As someone said before, Black Francis could get a band of session guys and tour under the Pixies brand, but he hasn't. The Pixies with Joey and Dave (and EDF?) would still be pretty close to the Pixies, much like the Stones with Keef, Mick and Charlie still resemble the original band (despite losing key members Brian Jones and Mick Taylor). They are more of a band than Axl Rose's version of GNR, Billy Corgan's version of SP and Coutney Love's version of Hole. Fans should still realise the Pixies are very much still alive and are not pulling the wool over our eyes with their current line-up.
as for the Stones you forgot Bill Wyman, just another guy on bass I guess |
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 07:55:56
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| Frank Black's instagram page is interesting. This weekend he posted a pic of the Pixies, and a pic of his face with the tag "I think I'm really going crazy" (or close to it). Both have been deleted since. |
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 08:21:22
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Originally posted by IBreed
Frank Black's instagram page is interesting. This weekend he posted a pic of the Pixies, and a pic of his face with the tag "I think I'm really going crazy" (or close to it). Both have been deleted since.
I don't know what his problem is? He had a pretty good run. The Pixies are now enshrined in the hagiography of late 20th century American music. OK, so his solo career never managed to equal his first project, but second acts rarely do. I mean who really gives a shit about Wings?
They didn't make a lot of money during their first go around, but they cashed out nicely on the reunion. If they're careful, they won't need to work again.
As for Kim, I don't know why anyone is surprised. She's been saying for a long time now that she would not record another Pixies album because she can't stand the site of Charles.
This was from back in 2008
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Kim Deal has put the final nail in the coffin for further Pixies recordings saying there is no way she would ever record again with Black Francis.
The Breeders star Q radio that she would prefer to record “with her mother” than go into the studio with the former Pixies frontman, whose real name is Charles Thompson.
The band reunited in 2004 for a successful tour and recorded a single Bam Thwok which topped the UK iTunes download chart. There had been hopes that the band would record a full album at some point, but Deal has categorically ruled out any more tracks.
Speaking to QPM presenter Samanthi as she recorded a session for Tuesday night’s show, Deal said: “Charles just doesn’t have the patience anymore does he?”
Asked further whether she would be up for it, she said: “not with somebody who … no absolutely not. God, no. I’d rather record with my mother than record one with him.”
Thompson should move on. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 09:10:52
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| Why record an album and then pull out after? It makes no sense. |
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 09:12:34
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Originally posted by pot
Why record an album and then pull out after? It makes no sense.
Spite? Hell hath no fury, etc, etc. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 09:21:58
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 09:54:38
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| Yeah, I'd think it's more along the lines of not wanting to commit to a tour. Likely a conflict with the Breeders. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 10:02:37
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i just wish this whole thing would end. i hope for their sake, they decide what they're doing and announce it, and then everyone knows and moves on. they have crossed the line from the acceptable mystery and allure phase into the "I don't give a shit any more" phase
it's like when you're in 9th grade and trying to get into a girls pants. she is adamant that she will not cross a certain line before marriage (very strict parents, traditional upbringing), yet you have a sense that maybe there is still a 1% chance or so (she likes you). those small moments of hope, and the sense of possibility, are alluring enough to string you along for a long, long time. very long. maybe every now and then she drops hints that maybe now is the time, yet, when pursued, nothing materializes.
like the townspeople in the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, at a certain point (like when you meet someone more slutty in math class) you are completely over it. and at that point she might even sense that and flat out give in and say "ok, fine, we can do it".
but, it nothings you. "you should have said that 8 months ago," you think to yourself.
and so, no.. it's too late. you've moved on...
unless........ she reeeeeeeally means it this time. then... ok, sure why not?
that's how i feel about this album
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Edited by - floop on 06/18/2013 10:10:15 |
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 10:25:19
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 10:33:55
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Same same. I suppose I am here kind of talking about it, but in a way I really don't give a shit anymore and if there is an album will they just fucking get on with it and release the bastarding thing, otherwise imma lose interest very soon.
I remember all the hype about the new Guns n Roses album 20 years ago, it just dragged on and on and then when it finally got released it turned out to be complete and utter shite.
It's like making soup, if you heat the soup for too long it'll lose it's flavour. Same with coffee. |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 10:49:29
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Assuming all four of them recorded a new album:
Kim maybe didn't like the new songs and thought it was a mistake. The other three want to go on; so she quit.
I don't think it's spite and certainly, why put them through the excitement of new music just to pull out? Revenge? No, I don't think so...
The Breeders couldn't be the issue. They could easily put off releasing a new Pixies album and doing a tour till Last Splash ran its course. Frank would probably write another solo album during that period of time anyway.
Contractual issues? Wouldn't they be worked out before recording new tunes?
I think either the music wasn't to her liking and she thought it would tarnish their discography or some kind of fight occurred. I suppose it could just be some other reason that makes sense to her but isn't easily extrapolated with the limited and maybe completely erroneous information we have.
I think she just was disappointed with the songs.
Regardless of whether they use the Pixies name without Kim; it'll be exciting to hear Joey and Dave with Frank again.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 11:21:28
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I can't imagine whatever they may or may not have recorded being any worse than Mountain Battles, and she was ok to release that.
Some of the new FB tracks I've heard are quite good, but to be honest I can't image them as Pixies songs, with some Joey lead and kim bass, vocals, I don't know how that could work and sound like a new Pixies album.
i think they should just forget the whole thing now rather than getting a new bassist it |
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 11:23:16
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| You'd think her not liking the songs and refusing to work with them would come after Frank presented her with demos (of which he apparently recorded tons last summer). Why the announcement after the album recordings have finished? I'm not convinced her not liking the songs are the reason for this. |
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IBreed
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 11:25:55
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Originally posted by pot
I can't imagine whatever they may or may not have recorded being any worse than Mountain Battles, and she was ok to release that.
Some of the new FB tracks I've heard are quite good, but to be honest I can't image them as Pixies songs, with some Joey lead and kim bass, vocals, I don't know how that could work and sound like a new Pixies album.
i think they should just forget the whole thing now rather than getting a new bassist it
I still don't understand this mindset. No one Pixies album sounds like another. The Pixies are Frank Black's weird songwriting and voice, Joey's maniacal guitar and Kim's harmonies. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 11:30:14
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| They are 25 years older and don't have the same energy. No band can go that long and then come back and do an album that reflects their earlier music whilst adding a different slant. It'll come across as AOR. |
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moonruler
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 12:09:48
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Originally posted by simibaby
Moonruler: "If Santiago and Francis are in a band, they are the Pixies". So I guess all the albums Joey and Frank did together ("Frank Black".. "TOTY"..."DITS"...."Devil's Workshop"...."Fastman"...etc) could be called
"The Pixies"? Interesting.
Learn how to read.
The only "band" Joey and Frank were in together was Pixies, Joey only played on some of the songs on the albums you mention and was never a band member of the Catholics. He only provided studio support and then only on a limited number of tracks for each.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 13:04:17
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Originally posted by pot
They are 25 years older and don't have the same energy. No band can go that long and then come back and do an album that reflects their earlier music whilst adding a different slant. It'll come across as AOR.
Sure they can. The fact that it is the same personnel + 20 years almost certainly points to any new music being Pixies' sound with a slant. I dont quite understand your musings on this whole thing. In one post you seem interested and possibly excited by potential new tunes, then in another you dont give a shit and can't be bothered. It's a wierd thing thinking of what these people might come up with working together after so many years, but some reactions on here seem almost bi-polar in nature.
Black Francis + Joey + Dave + Kim (hopefully) concocting any art together from scratch will always be of interest, regardless of what name they use. Doesn't have to be perfect, doesn't have to fit right next to their older work. Just has to be honest and not.pander to anyone, and I'm good to go as a fan. If anything looking at his body of worl post-Pixies, Charles has earned confidence in whatever he makes, especially given the time and resources the Pixies name provides. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 13:14:26
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Originally posted by floop
i just wish this whole thing would end. i hope for their sake, they decide what they're doing and announce it, and then everyone knows and moves on. they have crossed the line from the acceptable mystery and allure phase into the "I don't give a shit any more" phase
it's like when you're in 9th grade and trying to get into a girls pants. she is adamant that she will not cross a certain line before marriage (very strict parents, traditional upbringing), yet you have a sense that maybe there is still a 1% chance or so (she likes you). those small moments of hope, and the sense of possibility, are alluring enough to string you along for a long, long time. very long. maybe every now and then she drops hints that maybe now is the time, yet, when pursued, nothing materializes.
like the townspeople in the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, at a certain point (like when you meet someone more slutty in math class) you are completely over it. and at that point she might even sense that and flat out give in and say "ok, fine, we can do it".
but, it nothings you. "you should have said that 8 months ago," you think to yourself.
and so, no.. it's too late. you've moved on...
unless........ she reeeeeeeally means it this time. then... ok, sure why not?
that's how i feel about this album
green star member since 2006. smb?
That explains a lot. Like all the masturbation in this thread,
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 13:33:39
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I dont quite understand your musings on this whole thing.
Black Francis + Joey + Dave + Kim (hopefully)
My thoughts change as I learn more about the situation. Simple as that. Who knew?
Kim(hopefully) is no longer an album option, in case you didn't know already.
Capiche? |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 13:56:31
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Originally posted by Fissile
This was from back in 2008
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Asked further whether she would be up for it, she said: “not with somebody who … no absolutely not. God, no. I’d rather record with my mother than record one with him.”
W-what?! I never heard about this. Seems a little strong. Kim did state some time ago that she didn't want to be like the Rolling Stones, going on forever and releasing disappointing albums. In any case, if she actually did appear on this alleged new album then decided to quit it's kind of odd... maybe the Last Splash tour has rekindled a bit of fire in her, especially considering the mainstream success The Breeders had with Cannonball. Blah blah... I'm beginning to sound like a music journalist. Maybe we're all making to much of it. |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 14:00:39
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Originally posted by pot
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I dont quite understand your musings on this whole thing.
Black Francis + Joey + Dave + Kim (hopefully)
My thoughts change as I learn more about the situation. Simple as that. Who knew?
Kim(hopefully) is no longer an album option, in case you didn't kno
w a
If you say so.
Kim is an option if the album has already been recorded and quit because of conflicts relating to touring, money, Breeders responsibilities, etc...capiche? |
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wilson
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 15:02:32
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| that ding question still remains on that page undeleted so it probably wasn't him |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 16:40:32
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Originally posted by Carl
Maybe we're all making to much of it.
Probably, but isn't that one of the points of having a forum?
That Kim quote seems especially harsh considering they ventured out on the Doolittle tour sometime after.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 18:27:54
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Originally posted by pot
They are 25 years older and don't have the same energy. No band can go that long and then come back and do an album that reflects their earlier music whilst adding a different slant.
Well, Dinosaur Jr. definitely did it with "Beyond"
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 06/18/2013 : 18:33:20
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Originally posted by two reelers
And who needs the Pixies, anyway, with this line-up ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KMfX5p7gQk
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
that was awaesome. thanks for that.
wonder what happened to his guitar at the beginning
[edit] this is so many levels of amazing. Andy in the background projection dancing like he's at a rave. vintage frank blue plaid jacket shirt. Lyle with baggy overalls looking like a foot court drug dealer. Nick with the Christopher Lloyd hairdo
love
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Edited by - floop on 06/18/2013 18:38:36 |
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