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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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 Posted - 08/25/2012 : 10:58:17
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No politician will ever fool me again. Tony Bliar was the last. I was still young and impressionable back in 1997.
The thing about Obama, whom I liken in some ways to Tony Blair. They're both nearly handsome middle ages guys with protruding ears. Folk like Obama because of him trying to reform the health service in America so everyone can get at least some kind of free health care. It's an expensive venture that, especially when you consider the obesity epidemic, there's a time bomb if I ever saw one. If the US government just legalised and controlled the production and sale of cannabis they could raise BILLIONS of dollars every year, all of which could be pumped into the health service. It's a win win situation + cannabis can help to maintain good health, it wards off cancers, maintains a healthy cardiovascular system, helps to control food and alcohol addiction, stops people from doing harder drugs when they can't get a hold of any. So as well as raising a lot for money for health care over time it will reduce the number of people who will get ill in the future! It's no brainer. The people who are continuing to enforce these laws have lost their minds, they are psychopaths. If I ever get busted for it I will consider it kidnap and request asylum in a foreign country, possibly Jamaica. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 11:39:41
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Originally posted by pot
No politician cunt will ever fool me again. Tony Bliar was the last. I was still young and impressionable back in 1997.
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Folk like Obama because of him trying to reform the health service in America so everyone can get at least some kind of free health care.
But yet you think he's a fraud. He deserves some credit for what has he done. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 13:18:41
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by pot
No politician cunt will ever fool me again. Tony Bliar was the last. I was still young and impressionable back in 1997.
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Folk like Obama because of him trying to reform the health service in America so everyone can get at least some kind of free health care.
But yet you think he's a fraud. He deserves some credit for what has he done.
Please explain to me what he has done? From where I am sitting and a lot of other people in America and in the world he just comes across as much of a fake lying warmongering dead head that Bush was. I think he is a left wing infiltraitor. He is representing the right, but masquerading as the new face of modern politics. I'm very disappointed. If I was an african american I would feel even more let down probably, especially if I was in prison.
Fuck Obama, and the horse he rode in on.
p.s. Bradley Manning. Happening now on Obama's watch. A white American guy who volunteered his life for his country is being held in solitary and tortured because he blew the whistle on America's war crimes. America has been committing war crimes for hundreds of years, terrible atrocities and I suppose we all have terrible histories but America is still writing this terrible period of fighting and oppression. With the help of some countries in Europe including our own.
What can Obama do about it. If he is not able to change any of these things then why is he the president and why did people vote for him? If there is nothing he can do he can still speak out, and then what? Would he be assassinated? I think it's quite likely that he is being coerced into presenting an agenda over a threat towards his own life and his family. If he was not in favour of what is happening then that is pretty much what the situation would be, but it isn't like that is it. Obama agree with more war, and closing down the medical dispensaries. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 17:16:59
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Originally posted by pot
Please explain to me what he has done?
Read your posting. Reformed US Health Care.
Great of you to speak for African-Americans. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 17:49:50
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| I don't know the ins and outs of Obama's health care plan. The point I was making was, rather than persecuting people for growing cannabis why not instead let them do it and use the money that is generated from it to fund health care. The alter-native is to continue with this bullshit war on drugs and let the money from it flow into the hands of criminal gangs. The people who run these cartels don't want cannabis to be legalised because then they would lose out. Can you not see what is happening? |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 17:55:03
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Originally posted by darwin
Hispanic. 2016.
And did Obama ever indicate that he would change pot laws? If not, in what way were you fooled?
I want the next chief of America to be an indigenous red indian. One whose ancestors survived the chemical warfare that early europeans used to perform genocide on them centuries ago, long even before independence day.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 18:20:50
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i didn't click on that youtube link, but god, i hope it's the littering commercial where the indian looks at the camera and cries.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 18:54:00
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 05:25:38
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Originally posted by pot
I don't know the ins and outs of Obama's health care plan.
Obviously, but that doesn't slow you down. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 06:08:37
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Oh. Am I not entitled to an opinion, or is my opinion automatically invalid because I'm in favour of legalising cannabis and I don't live in the US anyway? Yes I am entitled to an opinion because America is the whole reason why it's illegal throughout the world, because they have used economic and political coercion on foreign countries for decades to get them to criminalise and persecute people for it. Yes that's right, they paid India in 1982 to lock up their own people, for wanting to escape western life and find some kind of spiritual path.
Legalise cannabis + pump money into health = it's a no brainer. If you don't get it then I feel sorry for you |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 08:02:09
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| Your opinion about the US election is invalid. You're not a citizen and can't vote, so who cares what you think. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 08:23:07
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| Is that so. Then I say your president's opinion about anything that goes on anywhere else in the world is invalid. He can take his military bases and fuck off out of my country. |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 10:55:44
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yeah, gotta side with pot on that point. i wish the rest of the world could vote for the US president. that seems to be the only way we'll ever get one that isn't imperialist, war-mongering and completely disrespectful to the sovereignty of foreign nations.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 15:18:28
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| Lol, yes having citizens from other countries vote in another country's elections would increase respect for the sovereignty of nations. Kind of like killing a patient to cure a disease. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 15:26:44
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Yeah, kind of like when America decides it's doesn't like a country's particular government and then the people of America have an election to decide which political party they want to invade the aforementioned country, fire indiscriminately at it's citizens until they find their leader, assassinate them on live television and then install their own government, one which kowtows to America's demands.
Anyway I never said anything about voting. I no longer vote for anyone. But I'm entitled to have a say, and to complain about America's foreign policies/war on drugs, especially when the US has a military base in my own country against my will. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 18:46:18
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| Hi Stew. saying that you (A) no longer vote and that (B) the US military is in country against your will seems to be at odds with your desire to be counted. Sure you can't vote in the US Presidential election but you can still be heard on your home turf. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 22:44:01
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| Hi Dave, not sure what your point is. Do you mean I can still tell the US military to fuck off out of my country even though I don't vote? Well, I already tried that- Menwith Hill 4/7/2001 (sorry I mean 7/4/2001) protest against US military bases in UK. Guess what the outcome of that was? Ecuador have also asked the US to remove their military bases following the release of come wikileaks cables, and guess what they refused. So Ecuador requested to have a military base in the US, and incredibly they were denied! |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 01:56:15
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i wasn't being serious about non-US citizens voting for president. i was making a point that, to probably everyone in the world besides US citizens, the choice between Romney and Obama is not really a choice at all. moving soldiers around is not the same as bringing them home.
i see cars with bumper stickers that say "obama 2012" and right next to it "war is not the answer." then stop voting for perpetual war. no matter what happens, the next president is in favor of more and more war. i will not vote. i will not have my name on some list that shows support for these despicable human beings.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 03:00:37
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I've come to the conclusion that the government is powerless and you're only voting for spin.
If you want to hear optimism you vote for the left, if you want pessimism you vote for the right.
They can't do anything about the economy or world events. |
Edited by - hammerhands on 08/27/2012 07:45:53 |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 04:52:28
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Protest is ineffectual. That's why you do it.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 05:02:48
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Protest is ineffectual. That's why you do it.
Is that also why you vote? |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 05:32:32
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Voting is the least I do. You protest cos you want to be frustrated. That's your identity. There's not much of a battle raging inside you pot.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 05:43:54
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Voting is the least I do. You protest cos you want to be frustrated. That's your identity. There's not much of a battle raging inside you pot.
I don't do anything. I used to protest, but it was ineffectual so I stopped. These days I just try to enjoy the fruits of life and live peacefully. It's the people who you vote for who are preventing me and a lot of others from doing so. You are part of the global problem. You vote for people who always break their promises, then you turn round and blame people who didn't vote for the current mess that we are in. |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 15:00:40
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Originally posted by hammerhands
They can't do anything about the economy or world events.
i just want them to stop fucking with both.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 16:30:44
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
i see cars with bumper stickers that say "obama 2012" and right next to it "war is not the answer." then stop voting for perpetual war.
I saw one of these a few days ago. Care to guess what kind of car? A Prius, naturally. Briefly I considered pulling up next to her to ask about the conflict, until I remembered the bleeding-heart acquaintances I had when I was on Facebook. A question about their political beliefs is taken as a personal affront. You cannot calmly discuss your differences because their socio-political beliefs are more sacred than Jesus to a born-again Christian. So I turned up the Iggy and stepped on the gas. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 23:54:33
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
i just want them to stop fucking with both.
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You can't keep blaming the servants.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 02:57:52
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| LOL Servants. I remember Tony Bliar using that term to refer to himself and his party the day after he was elected in 1997. These days most sane people prefer to call him a two-faced warmongering lying cunt. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 04:44:39
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What wars have Obama started? Was he wrong to support the rebels in Libya? Should the West just ignore what is happening in Syria?
And do you suggest that the West just pull out of Afghanistan? Are the people of Afghanistan no better off than they were 11 years ago? I don't know if they are, but I think it would be pretty irresponsible to just pull out an abandon the people that have been trying to build a more tolerant nation there. You might want to give all of the women that live there refuge status if you want to pull out NATO troops.
To act like Obama is just the same as Bush is bullshit. Bush started the war in Iraq by lying and if he or McCain were in office we would probably have a war going in Iran now. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 04:47:02
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| Is Obama a pacifist? No, but you are not going to get a pacifist President in the United States. But that doesn't mean that if someone isn't as pure as snow that they are a warmonger. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 04:56:58
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I already told you. He started a war on the medical dispensaries that were providing patients with cannabis for their ailments, under the legal sanction of their own state laws, which he explicitly stated he would not interfere with. He has been gun toting at several countries in the middle east, fell short of his promise to remove troops from Iraq and has continued warring in Afganistan/sent drones to bomb Pakistan. Not removing your troops from a country is tantamount to starting a war with that country.
What is happening in Syria is largely the result of fall out from the west steaming into Iraq and completely obliterating the countries infrastructure and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
We have been fighting Afganistan for hundreds of years, do you think we will ever win it? We are not in any position to judge other countries for their human rights abuses when we are so guilty of our own.
We wouldn't stand a chance of fighting Iran, which is why the US and it's European allies have not yet invaded it + we can't afford it. What are we going to do if we get invaded? Where are all our troops? I have spoked first hand with a guy I know who is fighting in Afganistan and he agrees with me on that point. If the UK was invaded tomorrow we would be fucked, because all our resources are spent on attacking foreign countries. I say attack, because that is what it amounts to.
He is also waging a war against his own troops. I read recently of one Iraq vet who was using cannabis to treat his PTSD and he is facing criminal charges and prison. That fact alone makes Obama a loathsome human being. + the torture/incarceration of Bradley Manning for blowing the whistle on his war crimes |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 05:05:54
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Originally posted by darwin
Is Obama a pacifist? No, but you are not going to get a pacifist President in the United States. But that doesn't mean that if someone isn't as pure as snow that they are a warmonger.
Try Roseanne Barr. Or is electing a non-warmongering scumbag of a president out of the question? Why is that? Do the people of America want peace in the wake of 911? Or do they want to continue it's empirical war on the entire world which is what ultimately led to the 911 attacks in the first? America has been at war with some country or other since the end of WW2, and before. Does that not strike you as being somewhat odd? |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 05:54:33
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Protestors facilitate war. That's the bargain. They're your wars pot. Take responsibility for them.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 06:04:33
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Protestors facilitate war. That's the bargain. They're your wars pot. Take responsibility for them.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 08:14:01
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
not the same as bringing them home.
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Personally, as a free person, I'm ashamed we're pulling out. 17 people killed, some beheaded, just yesterday, for the crime of listening to music. They're getting ready to retake power once we're gone.
You're a music lover. You must know how I feel.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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