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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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 Posted - 08/11/2012 : 04:00:16
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Ryan seems like a strong pick even though he was keen to confess that his father often told him, "Son, you're either part of the problem or part of the solution". I'm glad I didn't have a father that liked to talk weird shit at me.
Romney often waves while looking the other way. That's bad conscience.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 04:32:39
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| Romney has no conscience, the man is a psychopath. |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 06:55:07
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everyone involved loves beating the ol' war drums. the whole thing makes me sick.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 08/11/2012 : 09:39:30
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| If you don't vote then you've got not right to complain! (unless you live/lived in Iraq and voted for Saddam Hussein) |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 06:19:48
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i don't understand. both candidates love war and want more of it. so if i don't vote for either of them then i can't "complain" that the leader of my country is bombing yet another country?
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 07:54:35
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| Yes, they're exactly the same. I'm tired of that lazy fucking argument. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 08:39:57
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| Annoys the shit out me when people say that. I like to turn it round the other way and say you have no right to complain IF you vote. Surely by now people will have realised the whole thing is a farce that has practically nothing to do with the will of the people, but apparently not. |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 09:22:40
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I'm not sure what this excercise is. Why would you run the bogeyman against the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent...in a lifetime?
Are they that confident? |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 09:28:48
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| Maybe they want Obama to win because that's suits their agenda better. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 11:19:41
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Originally posted by hammerhands
I'm not sure what this excercise is. Why would you run the bogeyman against the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent...in a lifetime?
Are they that confident?
Because the Republican party is fractured. It's a unmanageable mix of conservatives, born-agains, racists, libertarians, and Ayn Rand lovers. Who in the Republican party would have been a better candidate that those groups would somewhat agree to?
Really? Obama is more vulnerable than Carter? |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 13:37:13
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At least they liked Carter in the South.
Gee, that election wasn't close at all! Amazing how you misremember things from your childhood. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 13:38:07
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 13:46:10
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Originally posted by darwin
Yes, they're exactly the same. I'm tired of that lazy fucking argument.
is this in response to me or pot?
if me, then i didn't say "they're exactly the same." i implied they're both warhawks. personally, that's the thing i care most about, and i cannot vote for either in good consciousness. but i can, in good consciousness, mention from time to time that the foreign policy carried out by so many presidents, present included, makes me ill.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 13:58:25
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| The war on drugs makes me ill, because I can't score any nice green as a direct consequence of it so I end up damaging my lungs from smoking poor quality hash laced with all sorts and damaging my liver from drinking too much. As well as being fun to get high, it also helps me to deal with insomnia as a result of constant noise from neighbours and traffic, and just generally keeps me in balance and promotes better health. No-one seems to care about this issue, especially when it comes to elections, and if I bring this up I get accused of having a drug problem. I suppose in some sense it is. So that's why I don't vote, not that I can vote in the US elections of course, but the US is the reason why cannabis is illegal throughout the world because they have been using political and economic coercion to force other nations to criminalise it for decades, and there it is now becoming legal throughout many states. The words 'fucked up situation' have never been so apt. I'm sick to death of this, and of the constant warmongering by the US government and our own. They can go and fuck themselves, the lot of them. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 18:39:09
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quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands
At least they liked Carter in the South.
Gee, that election wasn't close at all! Amazing how you misremember things from your childhood.
In 1980 in the South he only won Georgia (his home state).
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/presidential-approval-center.aspx/
At this point in their Presidency's Carter's job approval rating was 32% and Obama's is 45%. Obama is not the "most vulnerable Democratic incumbent" unless you are younger than 32. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 18:41:40
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
is this in response to me or pot?
To you. What war has Obama started? Does he receive no credit from you for getting largely out of Iraq? Is Obama really as big of a war hawk as Bush? And frankly it is lazy to take one issue, declare the candidates equal, and then say you therefore don't care to vote. |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 02:12:28
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the current administration has continued the policies of Bush and expanded them. predator drones in pakistan (and god knows where else), the TSA, signing into law the ability for the US government to indefinitely detain anyone for, really, any reason they like. afghanistan, iraq- these wars are still going on. gitmo- open for business.
the idea that anyone who was anti-war when Bush was in office would be happy with Obama is ludicrous. and yes, i think crimes against humanity is a great reason to not support someone.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 02:51:38
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Originally posted by darwin
What war has Obama started?
He started a war on the medical marijuana dispensaries that have been opening up across america over the past few years, despite originally claiming that he would stop the federal government intervening in state law. He also continued the war in the middle east, sending drones out to bomb Afghanistan and Pakistan and has made various threats of action towards other countries. Hardly the actions of a pacifist. |
Edited by - pot on 08/13/2012 02:54:55 |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 08:13:15
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Originally posted by pot
The war on drugs makes me ill, because I can't score any nice green as a direct consequence of it so I end up damaging my lungs from smoking poor quality hash laced with all sorts and damaging my liver from drinking too much. As well as being fun to get high, it also helps me to deal with insomnia as a result of constant noise from neighbours and traffic, and just generally keeps me in balance and promotes better health. No-one seems to care about this issue, especially when it comes to elections, and if I bring this up I get accused of having a drug problem. I suppose in some sense it is. So that's why I don't vote, not that I can vote in the US elections of course, but the US is the reason why cannabis is illegal throughout the world because they have been using political and economic coercion to force other nations to criminalise it for decades, and there it is now becoming legal throughout many states. The words 'fucked up situation' have never been so apt. I'm sick to death of this, and of the constant warmongering by the US government and our own. They can go and fuck themselves, the lot of them.
You're frustrated period.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 09:05:24
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Originally posted by trobrianders
You're frustrated period.
Don't insult me. It might not be an important issue to you, but it is to me and many others. I'm fed up with people not taking taking this seriously. I try my best to life a good life, but modern society is up against me at every turn and that fact I can't score some nice green to help me sleep is not fucking helping! |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2012 : 21:39:25
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| You boring lame ass fuck heads, let's have a discussion about cannabis for the upcoming 2012 US presidential elections! @therealrosseanne Or are you not that interested and think that people who smoke cannabis are lazy drop outs? It's all about war, or economics, or jobs, but never about real issues. Feel free to jump in with some comments about it at any time. |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 02:03:35
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It appears to be a dead issue.
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Edited by - hammerhands on 08/15/2012 02:03:52 |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 02:13:24
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 02:24:57
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hey, pot- i'm all against the war on drugs. don't get me wrong. it's just one thing on a list (that's growing longer) of entrenched bullshit US policy. (and you don't consider war a "real" issue? come on, man.)
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 04:59:02
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| Yes it always seems to be bottom of the list these days. I never said I didn't consider war to be a real issue, although scrolling back I can see why you might think that. Not not saying something is not the same as saying something by implication. Whenever this is issue is raised in politics though it's always returned with the same dead answer. When Obama was questioned about it a few years ago just after he took seat in the WH he just shrugged it off and laughed as if to say, of course we are never going to legalise it, don't be so ridiculous you crazy pot smoking jokers. No, he is the fucking joker. People, myself included, in the cannabis community took great offence at that. And it's ALWAYS the same! And it doesn't make sense. All scientific evidence points to it as a recreational drug being totally non harmful and as a medicine highly beneficial to a lot of people with a variety of different ailments. it always takes a back seat to more important issues like the economy and war, but we didn't cause any of these problems, the government and the bankers did, and whatsmore it's the government who caused this issue about cannabis legalisation to be important in the first place. And here's the thing, in order to tackle this problem they have caused in the first place, if and when they can eventually get round to sorting it out after they have dealt with all other more important issues, what do they have to do? I'll tell you what they have to do. Fuck all. They don't need to do anything AT ALL. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. All they have to do, and this is not really actually doing anything since the absence of doing something is not really the same as doing something, all they have to do is stop arresting people for it. Let all the people who are in jail for it go free and in the process save the tax payer a lot of money. How hard can that be and why the fuck hasn't it been done? State politicians in CA are calling for it to be legalised, and by legalising it all the federal government has to do is just leave people alone to get on with it, they want it because it's a nice plant, it helps people and rather than money going into the hands of drug cartels it could also raise a lot of money for the local economy and in the process help people and businesses financially. So by stopping being a bunch of fascists about it all and doing precisely nothing about it and let people get on with their lives how they want to live them they are also inadvertently helping the economy. Everybody wins. And then when america has sorted out this mess the rest of the world can begin to move forward, and then maybe in a few years I can get a hold of something to smoke that actually gets me high, and then maybe I wont drink so much. After giving up tobacco for many years I have also started smoking it again recently. If cannabis was legal I wouldn't have. How is that helping? <rant break> |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 15:09:52
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right there with you, pot. 100%.
but, you wrote "It's all about war, or economics, or jobs, but never about real issues." yeah, that very clearly implies those 3 listed issues aren't "real." i'm just saying. i'm not hung up on it. i promise. moving on.
but, yeah- war on drugs is bullshit. right there with you, buddy.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 23:48:50
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| Phew. Thank fuck for that :-) I suppose I did sort of say that. I think what I meant was yeah the economy is important, and jobs, but at the same time it's all a form of modern slavery. I'm not against working though, and I'm not shy of a good hard days work, but what is expected of us these days is too much. I'd like a fucking life as well, or at least if I have to spend the majority of my life being told what to do then I can at least come home at the end of the day, put my feet up and smoke some nice weed. Capiche? |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2012 : 02:31:51
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ron paul.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 01:07:49
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What a circus you guys make of your own elections. Breathtaking!
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 17:38:49
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 17:45:19
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| I was thinking about the same thing. I reckon, and this is just my opinion, they might go for a 50/60 year old white wealthy businessman with a symmetrical face, who has gone slightly mad and wont ever even consider the possibility of cannabis ever being legalised. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 07:13:47
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Originally posted by pot
I was thinking about the same thing. I reckon, and this is just my opinion, they might go for a 50/60 year old white wealthy businessman with a symmetrical face, who has gone slightly mad and wont ever even consider the possibility of cannabis ever being legalised.
Why? That doesn't sound like the last nominee from the Democratic party. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 07:38:28
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| I didn't say it did. They done the whole black president/female president gimmick thing and they totally fooled us all. I reckon their next choice will be another wasp. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 15:42:15
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Hispanic. 2016.
And did Obama ever indicate that he would change pot laws? If not, in what way were you fooled? |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 16:23:56
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hope and change, i guess.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 16:29:06
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Originally posted by darwin
Hispanic. 2016.
And did Obama ever indicate that he would change pot laws? If not, in what way were you fooled?
Fooled? Not me
I believe he did suggest considering medi-MJ. He also stated that he wouldn't interfere with state legislation, apparently unless it involves medical marijuana..
David Cameron the UK's own present incumbent expressed similar rhetoric before he came into power, as did Tony Bliar I believe.
They are all lying bastards who will say anything to gain popularity and win their seat. As for Obama there is a big question mark over whether or not he may have had intentions towards laying off the smokers, but is actually powerless to stop the feds from raiding all the dispensaries.
The lands of the free, western countries condemn Russia for locking up Pussy Riot meanwhile America has the largest population per capita in prison, a great deal of whom are black men for nothing more than smoking plant. |
Edited by - pot on 08/25/2012 02:44:56 |
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