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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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 Posted - 04/09/2012 : 07:41:16
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A poor review in The Skinny- 2/5 stars :-o
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/records/301626-grand_duchy_let_people_speak
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Every marriage has its ups and downs; Let the People Speak is mostly the latter. Husband and wife Frank Black and Violet Clark follow up Grand Duchy’s 2009 debut Petit Fours with another eclectic collection of divergent genre dabblings, but it’s hardly the stuff on which iconic reputations are built, nor maintained.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 12:24:31
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I just listened to the 1m30s previews on iTunes. Have to say I think it sounds quite good! Better than Petit Fours. Violets vocals sound good and the overall production is pretty slick, plenty of variation throughout. Wish I had a full copy to listen to, hope it comes up on 3voor12 tomorrow...
A good mixture of Frank and Violet's different styles that comes together pretty well I think. If I had the funds I definitely buy this, I think it will surprise many on here (myself included) who doubted this album. I'd probably give it a 4/5 based on just the samples. |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 13:48:43
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Have you ever used Spotify, pot? The full album is on there now. Plus the remixes album.
"The arc of triumph" |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 14:15:26
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| I have a spotify account but never use it. Thanks for the head's up I will now start using it :-) |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 22:11:02
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Ouch.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16488-grand-duchy-let-the-people-speak/
"Look, there are worse crimes than making a boring alt-tronica record, but if you're responsible for Doolittle and Surfer Rosa and Trompe Le Monde, you're beholden to a certain set of expectations. If this is the music he's inspired to make with the people he loves, I'll stick with the music he made with people he hated."
Denis
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 23:09:10
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It's pretty clear this album is very much a Violet project, so if the rest of the album's as bad as the songs I've heard so far (White Out, Shady, the myspace remixes) I won't be that disappointed. It seems like it's a concentration of the more grating parts of Petit Fours (the singing on Long Song and Volcano, all of Break The Angels).
Bring on a new FB/BF album. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 23:23:27
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Funny, the singing on Long Song is the only thing I'd save from the first album.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 23:28:17
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Yeah, it's all on Spotify now. Worth a listen. Haven't really warmed to it so far, I'm afraid. 'See-thru You' is one of the better ones.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 00:21:48
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Originally posted by vilainde
but if you're responsible for Doolittle and Surfer Rosa and Trompe Le Monde, you're beholden to a certain set of expectations.
No mention on Bossanova?
I'm afraid I just can't take the review seriously then..
Oh and Re: Long Song yeah I hate that song too. Not because it's too long, but because it's wank. Well I guess you could say it's 5m16s too long..
Really enjoying Geode, het is veel goede. Third listen so far today, love the synth. |
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 01:49:46
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http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16488-grand-duchy-let-the-people-speak/
"Look, there are worse crimes than making a boring alt-tronica record, but if you're responsible for Doolittle and Surfer Rosa and Trompe Le Monde, you're beholden to a certain set of expectations. If this is the music he's inspired to make with the people he loves, I'll stick with the music he made with people he hated."
Haha - usually dont pay any creedence to pitchfork but thats a pretty good summary tbh.
I won't be too unkind as its obviously creative and driven by Violet but i feel that FBF should get back to doing what he does best. I for one would not sit through another spin of that record. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 02:32:10
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wait... I thought you liked it?
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markos
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 04:51:38
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Well... I've heard worse things, but seriously its time for FB to re-emerge as a creative force once more. Too many half arsed duet records and second string songs pulled together masquerading as albums. There is still great stuff here and there, but the man needs to re-find the unerring consistency and blistering energy his early records had and he has re-found occasionally with DITS and Bluefinger.
As for Let the People Speak- I hate the intro-outro stuff. Horrific. Much of the 'surreal' babble present in both the DJ speak and actual lyrics is just pretentious and annoying. I like the song Shady and one or two others a bit.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 06:09:26
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I really like Geode, it's quite Eurythmicsy and has a bit of a Arabic feel to it. Always a winning combination.
Dark Sparkles and The Beat is also a great track and has a very Pixies-esque bass line. I seriously am int6o this album a lot more than I thought I would be.
I said after Petit Fours that they need to put more emphasis on Violet's synthy new wave sound and it looks like they have done so. With lots of help from a .. of great artists she has pulled it off in grand style. I think I have already listened to this album more than I ever did Petit Fours.
There is some Frank Blacky stuff in there as well, most notably Where is John Frum? but don't fret all ye hardcore AOR heads I'm sure Mr Black Francis has some good stuff coming soon.
Like I say I think The Catholics should reform and get Kim Gordon on Board, I think that could work. |
Edited by - pot on 04/10/2012 10:42:49 |
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The Maharal
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 06:20:10
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Can't find it on 3voor and I don't think Spotify works in Ireland so I might just give this a miss. Especially since it's an hour long and none of the previously released tracks really hit me (White Out was awful, Silver Boys annoying and Shady was only redeemed by BF's vocals).
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 06:24:58
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The Maharal
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 06:37:36
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Don't get me wrong I quite enjoyed Petit Fours and some of her vocals. In fact, I kinda agree with a friend's assessment that her vocals were better than BF's, who when screaming sounded like he had a towel stuck down his throat. I'd give PF a rating of 3 out of 5. It's just rather forgettable (besides Emersinde and Black Suit) and blighted by what I'd call pretentiousness.
I'm sure I'll give Let the People Speak a spin when I'm less busy (I'm almost half way through Ulysses.. gulp), but I'm not looking forward to it that much. |
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Carl
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 11:39:47
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| Just listening to the album on that Baebelmusic site, White Out sounds different to the version I listened to on Spotify. I think it is the remix version. Yep also Where is John Frum, Rest of the tracks sound like the originals though... |
Edited by - pot on 04/12/2012 12:03:49 |
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pixie punk
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
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The Maharal
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 05:52:53
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Originally posted by The Maharal
Heather Phares of AMG seems to have liked the album, awarding it 3.5 stars out of 5. Same rating as Bluefinger, BLD, Honeycomb, Fastman and SMYT.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/let-the-people-speak-r2412900/review
It tells you the composer for each track in this article. Who is this Warfield who part wrote Silver Boys with BF? Must say it's one of my least favourite tracks on the album, and interestingly my favourites all seem to be the ones composed solely by Violet.
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arthur.
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 06:59:41
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This record is the worst thing from the Man EVER :( I hope the catholics box will be worth it - everything is so disappointing since the Golem => Non stop erotic + Abaduba + Paley + Grand Duchy... Charles what are you doing ???
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 07:03:06
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Come on, NSE was good... and the Golem is only 2 years old.
Denis
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 07:05:52
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Originally posted by pot
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Originally posted by The Maharal
Heather Phares of AMG seems to have liked the album, awarding it 3.5 stars out of 5. Same rating as Bluefinger, BLD, Honeycomb, Fastman and SMYT.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/let-the-people-speak-r2412900/review
It tells you the composer for each track in this article. Who is this Warfield who part wrote Silver Boys with BF? Must say it's one of my least favourite tracks on the album, and interestingly my favourites all seem to be the ones composed solely by Violet.
I clicky on Warfield and got this
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/warfield-p14670
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 11:07:30
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Simply awful. I still love Frank, but this...this is awful.
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The Maharal
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 13:19:39
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Originally posted by arthur.
This record is the worst thing from the Man EVER :( I hope the catholics box will be worth it - everything is so disappointing since the Golem => Non stop erotic + Abaduba + Paley + Grand Duchy... Charles what are you doing ???
arthur.
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Simply awful. I still love Frank, but this...this is awful.
I know I compared the AMG review to reviews of FB albums but I think people need to recognise this as a Violet Clark venture. Most of the interviews state that BF purposely took a back seat so I'm just gonna look at it as BF merely (and noblly) helping his wife's creative ambitions come to fruition.
He mentioned on Facebook shortly after Christmas that he was getting up to some serious songwriting so I look forward to whatever culminated from that. Presume it'll be next year before anything is released though. |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 15:21:56
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This thing, for me, is simply unlistenable. I find essentially nothing that speaks to me on any level, unless it's saying "turn off the stereo and go read a book or something."
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl! |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 23:55:04
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Really great interview with Violet posted above. A good find.
Quite liked 'Petits Fours', but I'm really not into this record, sadly.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 01:54:32
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Fuck it. Get Violet in on the Pixies instead of Kim and do an album. Just listening to Dark Sparkels and the Beat and the end where FB comes in with the old Pixies guitar twangs, with the deep bass line and Violet's singing it totally works! I think Violet could really work in the band, and why not? *awaits backlash*
I like the way you can hear a real Pixies style coming through on some of the tracks. And the radio commentary (which I don't mind at all and think works well to give the album structure and continuity, if a little pretentious) the bit at the end of Geode reminds me of the lyrics to Subbacultcha but not sure if that's done on purpose. |
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onyone
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 04:59:30
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Originally posted by pot
Fuck it. Get Violet in on the Pixies instead of Kim and do an album. Just listening to Dark Sparkels and the Beat and the end where FB comes in with the old Pixies guitar twangs, with the deep bass line and Violet's singing it totally works! I think Violet could really work in the band, and why not? *awaits backlash*
I like the way you can hear a real Pixies style coming through on some of the tracks. And the radio commentary (which I don't mind at all and think works well to give the album structure and continuity, if a little pretentious) the bit at the end of Geode reminds me of the lyrics to Subbacultcha but not sure if that's done on purpose.
How much pot do you smoke Pot? |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 07:42:08
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| ^^The correct answer. |
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Grand Duchy, Let the People Speak debut this wknd
