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trobrianders
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Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 01/17/2011 :  10:51:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been on a Fall kick the last few days after hearing the brilliant Bury! Pts 1 & 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joY8Qn0dh3M
Then I put a CD together for a nephew who had just asked me about them.

Tracklist
1. Kurious Oranj
2. Telephone Thing
3. Dead Beat Descendant
4. Black Monk Theme Part 1
5. Elf Prefix / L.A.
6. Cruisers Creek
7. Bury! Pts 2 & 4
8. Victoria
9. New Big Prinz
10. Tempo House
11. Smile

(Yeah the hits I know!). Anyway I've been an on-off Fall fan for 25 years but I started going in a bit deeper than I'd done before, I looked up a whole bunch of clips, live and interview, on youtube including the wonderful and frightening world of Mark E. Smith doc. MES and The Fall are fascinating and I really love them.

I've heard the studio albums up to Extricate 1989 and am about to start looking up albums 1990-2010. Anything I shouldn't miss? Plus any good Fall stories you might have. My favorite one's MES talking about his granddad, how he used to wait outside prisons and say, "Right, you work for me" to the cons as they came out. MES said he does pretty much the same thing recruiting Fall lineups.

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2011 :  05:36:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Coincidentally, I've also been on a Fall kick since last week. I just re-listened to the big Peel Sessions collection. It's fantastic all the way until you get to the late '90s. To be honest, I harbored a grudge with the band after Scanlon and S.Hanley left, but I've finally come to agree that the re-invention of the band was something which simply had to happen. You can hear it in the drab and lifeless Peel recordings from '98. So far I have only one "post-reorg" album, The Real New Fall LP, but it's pretty good.

So I'm not much of an authority on albums from 2000-10 but I know the '90s stuff pretty well. There are plenty of great tracks on those albums but when I get the urge to hear The Fall, I usually reach for my favorite era of '78-'85.

Speaking of Peel, here he is with two of my favorite songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE-6xoh1khg
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
469 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2011 :  10:59:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've loved 'em on and off since I was 16 (46 now!) Apart from their 'Reformation Post TLC' album I think their 2000-10 output has been great. Such as...

Dr Buck's Letter (The Unutterable)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnjupiHDrU

Bourgeois Town (Are You Missing A Winner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWEquAF4tKQ&feature=related

Janet, Johnny and James (The Real New Fall LP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJm60BNwVXY&feature=related

Blindness (Fall Heads Roll)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rU-1gFKPmo

50 Year Old Man (Imperial Wax Solvent)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17IUIfOYIoQ&feature=related

Cowboy George (Your Future Our Clutter)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMV8qHdgvs&feature=related







Edited by - OLDMANOTY on 01/18/2011 11:11:46
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2011 :  14:10:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

Coincidentally, I've also been on a Fall kick since last week. I just re-listened to the big Peel Sessions collection. It's fantastic all the way until you get to the late '90s. To be honest, I harbored a grudge with the band after Scanlon and S.Hanley left, but I've finally come to agree that the re-invention of the band was something which simply had to happen. You can hear it in the drab and lifeless Peel recordings from '98. So far I have only one "post-reorg" album, The Real New Fall LP, but it's pretty good.

So I'm not much of an authority on albums from 2000-10 but I know the '90s stuff pretty well. There are plenty of great tracks on those albums but when I get the urge to hear The Fall, I usually reach for my favorite era of '78-'85.

Speaking of Peel, here he is with two of my favorite songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE-6xoh1khg

I'm grateful to Ant for posting that selection of more recent Fall numbers. I'm gonna like the 15 or so 1991-2010 albums I think. I've already heard YFOC (or is it OFYC?) and it's as breezy as anything from Brix-era. In any case if they do get a little dirge-like I wont worry. I was never put off by the uncommercial sounding stuff anyway. Even Mollusc in Tyrol off Seminal Live is good with a mug of tea and a biscuit.

That clip of Peel on The Tube was one of the first ones I looked up cos I half-remembered the brilliant high pitched squeals of Smile from that showing. I still haven't seen that Perverted By Language film so I was chuffed to discover the actual clip of them playing my favorite song of theirs, Tempo House; a hoot of MES taunting the unemployed. A scrawny little fucker who'll pick a fight with anybody just to show them up. He's a fantastic little prick but it was great seeing his good-natured side too in some of those interview clips on youtube.

I've also happily rediscovered the Fall song that's, by now, got so taken for granted; Kurious Oranj. I could reel off the fantastic review of the song that's formed in my head but posting the lyrics I only just looked up seems the best way of getting anyone to listen anew. "Rode slipshod over all dumbshits", is the line that's cracking me up more than any other right now. I'm still getting used to no Scanlon and S.Hanley

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2011 :  05:49:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

I've also happily rediscovered the Fall song that's, by now, got so taken for granted; Kurious Oranj. I could reel off the fantastic review of the song that's formed in my head but posting the lyrics I only just looked up seems the best way of getting anyone to listen anew. "Rode slipshod over all dumbshits", is the line that's cracking me up more than any other right now.



Ha ha! The whole Kurious Oranj LP is fantastic. I've always especially loved the "Jerusalem" rant about him slipping on a banana peel and expecting compensation from the government. I would tell you how many times have I recited it in my head, but I can't count that high.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2011 :  08:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah the Jerusalem rant's a real head-scratcher, all the more funny for being delivered so earnestly. The "protruding-ah, brick-ah chip-ah" part makes it for me.

I've just got hold of The Infotainment Scan (93), The Marshall Suite (99) and The Real New Fall LP (03). I picked those ones for the crowd pleasers I already knew off them; League of Bald-Headed Men, Touch-Sensitive and Mountain Energei. Speaking of Mountain Energei you could check youtube for the decent Fall set at Øyafestivalen (Oslo), 2006. Six songs in great quality; Mountain Energei, What About Us?, Bo Demmick, Pacifying Joint, Theme From Sparta F.C. and Wrong Place, Right Time. I swear you can almost make yourself believe that the musicians are members of The Fall! The drummer smiling so much shatters the illusion a bit.

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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
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Posted - 01/24/2011 :  04:32:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love The Fall. What a band, what a lyricist. Mesmerising records. Albums that usually start by sounding crowded and busy with moments of uncomfort, end up being addictive and vital. I started with 50,000 Fall fans can't be wrong. I would recommend that to anybody interested in the Fall.
It has all the easy listening (easy listening for a frank Black fan) / familiar tunes, such as Victoria / Hit the North / Touch Sensitive / How i wrote elastic man.
To the harder edged stuff like Industrial estate / Lie dream of Casino Soul / Eat yourself fitter / The Classical
I have since gone back to records like Hex enduction hour and Grotesque all the way through to Reformation post TLC and YFOC.
My admiration for MES has flourished into a slightly obsessive state. The man can write lyrics and melody like i didnt think possible.
one thing i'd say is it is very hard to listen to other bands once you have been infected with the Fall.
Long live The Fall
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2013 :  04:32:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like how Charles is working the 'he is not appreciated' refrain into live covers of New Big Prinz

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