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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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 Posted - 06/13/2010 : 14:52:31
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the aussies should put the football away and stick to drinking like the canadians
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2010 : 15:23:49
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A draw for England and the USA isn't too bad for either team. Both should get to the knockout stages.
I've already lost a bet this tournament. I thought Mexico would beat South Africa for sure :(
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 02:29:48
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Originally posted by vilainde
This World Cup is a bore. 8 goals in 7 games... come on!
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
Nicht möglich!
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 08:21:05
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| I bought my kids a replica World Cup 2010 ball, and they've been kicking it around the house, especially while the games are on. They sorta keep track of their score, and I was really proud of them when one of them announced he was winning 96-74. Now that's a score an American can love. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 11:38:32
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 15:14:20
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zing!
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"...long live snitz!! |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 22:30:19
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 23:29:49
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Originally posted by darwin
96-74. Must be two English keepers.
Glad you got that nationality thing sorted.
England looked like Italy, ponderous, short of ideas,enthusiasm and confidence. Germany on the other hand were fast and inventive. Hopefully Brazil will be similar tonight.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 23:32:43
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Was gonna make some remark about not being able to get the oil off our hands or having trouble clearing up our spills but there's no sense bringing that affair into it. In this climate I get the jokes. I think Obama's right to lay some of the blame on the British people. The company bears our name. Blame never sticks to greedy corporations but it needs to stick somewhere. Just the other day I heard some corporate bean counter say that there could be a hundrerd disasters of this magnitude and the benefits of deep water drilling would still far outweigh the costs. Blame's water off a duck's oily back to those fuckers.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 23:37:23
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Originally posted by Llamadance
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Originally posted by darwin
96-74. Must be two English keepers.
Glad you got that nationality thing sorted.
England looked like Italy, ponderous, short of ideas,enthusiasm and confidence. Germany on the other hand were fast and inventive. Hopefully Brazil will be similar tonight.
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According to Letterman the USA played Great Britain not England the other night. So nice of the Scots and Welsh to shoulder some of the ridicule.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 01:45:11
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Originally posted by fumanbru
zing!
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"...long live snitz!!
I blame the Canadians! Apparently Green's Canadian lingerie model girlfriend left him last month. Friends say he's devastated.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 01:49:59
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| And we put him between the sticks. What a dilemma now. Do we play him or James? |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7442 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 01:51:36
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Why don't you put a scarecrow? There's a chance it would be more efficient.
Denis
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 01:53:16
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 02:07:30
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Originally posted by fbc
And we put him between the sticks. What a dilemma now. Do we play him or James?
I don't know. How's James' relationships with wife AND girlfriends?
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 02:40:44
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This is good
Simon Hattensone, Today's Guardian
Poor Robert Green, RIP. One mistake and he's buried. Forwards get to miss any number of open goals and they always get another chance. Goalies? Forget it. Even if Fabio Capello forgives PRG, will the British public after the farce of Saturday night? I doubt it. How much praise have you heard for the magnificent save that kept us in the game at 1-1? Exactly. Or the way he held his hands up after the game? (If only he'd done as much in it.) Or the way he almost managed to look the camera in the eye and said these things happen.
Poor Robert Green. And poor Faouzi Chaouchi of Algeria for that matter – his cockup this weekend handed Slovenia a 1-0 win. Who'd be a goalkeeper?
My stomach did slow-motion somersaults when Clint Dempsey's bobble-shot slipped through PRG's hands. The ball trickled in so slowly, despite his posthumous dive, that there was enough time to revisit my childhood.
Confession. My name is Simon Hattenstone and I was a tragic goalkeeper. As with most keepers, goalkeeping chose me, I did not choose goalkeeping.
When I returned to school after a long illness, I was a piss-weak wimp surrounded by toughies with 20-hole Doctor Martens. Not surprisingly they bullied me – head down the loo, cigarette burns, that kind of stuff. And the more horrible they were, the more I wanted to be one of them.
At morning break they played football, then at lunch and in the afternoon. I was desperate to play but was beyond rubbish. So they put me in goal. Of course. That's where the likes of me went – fatties, asthmatics, weirdos and weaklings, we all went in goal.
David James, who might replace PRG in England's next match, was a rare exception. He actually wanted to be a goalie. In one of his lovely columns for the Observer, he wrote, "When I told other kids I wanted to be a goalie, they said: 'You're mad.' Goalkeepers are seen as eccentric, solitary and insular. Like the trainspotter at the end of the platform, marking down numbers: there are other people around you, but you're in your own world, concerned only with your own activity.
At school they loved the idea of smacking the ball hard as they could at my head or bollocks – anywhere really that would cause significant pain. In a way, it was just a (slightly) more sophisticated means of battering me.
But I loved it in goal. Yes, it was lonely, and I didn't get a run-around, but I certainly got the chance to impress. I was pretty good at diving, and quite brave. I'd spread myself at the DMs of the older kids, take a kicking if necessary, fling myself at everything. We played on gravel, which meant every day there were new patches on my jeans and new scabs on my knees. The older, cooler kids became my friends and started to look after me. Goalkeeping was great.
So I joined a local team, and that's when I discovered the horror of goalkeeping. The loneliness of the long-distance runner? Nothing compared to the loneliness of the long- despised goalkeeper. Even on a good day, you are johnny no-mates. I didn't have many good days, though. I was 12 years old and the goals were massive. What chance did I have? And my team-mates were miles away. All I had for company was the manager and the dads standing behind the goal, smoking fags, rubbing their hands together and bawling out all the kids who weren't their own. Sometimes we'd lose 10-0, other times we were hammered. One day the manager's best mate decided to give me a boost. "Unlucky, son," he said, as another one flew past me into the middle of the goal. "You didn't stand a chance." He then turned to the manager. "Who's that useless bastard in goal, Irv?" I only lasted half a season as a proper goalie.
Forwards and creative midfielders might be football's glamour boys, but when it comes to the movies and literary fiction it's the goalie who dominates. You want a leitmotif, Mr Auteur? Forget your Becks or Ronaldo, call on the No 1. (Yet another goalkeeping paradox – the only No 1 shirt that hardly anybody wants to wear). In the Wim Wenders film The Goalkeeper's Fear of the Penalty, the goalie is sent off for committing a foul. How does he take it? By soaking long and hard in his early bath, apologising to his team-mates for letting the lads down, visiting the priest and doing extra press-ups? No siree, he shags a cinema cashier then kills her. In Kes, young kestrel-loving, school-hating Billy Casper is the ultimate little boy outsider. How best denote it? Stick him in goal, reluctant and resentful, swinging on the crossbar.
It's possibly only in Russian films that goalkeepers have been given the respect they deserve; then again, Lev Yashin, regarded as the best keeper ever – and the only goalkeeper to win European Footballer of the Year, in 1963 – remains a national hero. In the 1938 musical film Vratar (Keeper), the hero is a watermelon stacker, so skilled at catching his huge fruit balls that he gets selected to play for a team of heroes. Here the goalie is the last line of defence in every sense. The most famous song of the film goes: "Hey, keeper, prepare for the fight/ You are a sentry in the goal/ Imagine there is a border behind you."
Great literary figures have had their imagination fuelled by their experience in nets. Albert Camus wrote L'Etranger (The Outsider) after playing in goal for the university of Algiers. His existential antihero, Meursault (another killer), is solitary, nihilistic, passive aggressive and aware of nothing more than the absurdity of existence. The perfect goalkeeper. Camus said: "All that I know of morality and obligation I owe to football." He could just as easily have said all he knows about football he owes to morality and obligation. After all, you can't have morality without obligation, and anyone who has stood between the sticks knows about obligation. Ask PRG.
Vladmir Nabokov, another great goalie who could write a bit, said: "I was less the keeper of a soccer goal than the keeper of a secret." I just hope Poor Robert Green remembers these comforting words in his low moments. ("Why did you let it in, Roberto?" "Dunno, bosso, I guess for that terrible moment I was keepin' a secret rather than a goal.")
No wonder the keeper is the existentialist's dream – the first hiding place, the last hiding place, the goal, as Sartre might well have said.
Goalkeepers are expected, at the very least, to be eccentric. The keeper stands alone and shouts: "I am different, I am among you but not of you"; the keeper can wear a ponytail or the world's biggest afro and not face ridicule (see Seaman and James); the keeper can refuse to brush his teeth on match day and stink the opposition into submission (America's Marcus Hahnemann); the keeper can carry a gun (Tom Farquharson, Cardiff City's keeper in their 1927 FA Cup win); the keeper can run out in a Freddy Krueger mask (Peterborough's Fred Barber); the keeper can punch his manager, walk on his hands round the penalty area mid-match, and demand his barber give him an identical perm to that sported by Peter Shilton (John "Budgie" Burridge). It is his right. He is the keeper of his castle, the man in black (or green or quite often yellow) who walks the line more than a Johnny Cash tribute act. Perhaps PRG's problem is that he is disturbingly normal.
Some of our greatest thinkers, idealists and role models have been goalies – Pope John Paul II (who looked remarkably like England manager Ron Greenwood); Che Guevara ("I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man," were his last words but he might have uttered them in a penalty shootout); and Jamie Theakston. Anybody who witnessed Theakston's miraculous penalty saves for England in the recent Soccer Aid shoot-out against the Rest of the World will know just how good it can get being a goalie. Because in the end, when everything's on the line, as the prospect of a semi-final draws ever closer, it's the goalie we look to. Psychologist supreme, poker king, foxiest of foxes, on their strong hands and distracting leg-wobbles a nation's hopes will rest. Bring on the penalties.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 15:54:47
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ya, i don't know why anyone would choose to play goal in soccer. takes a certain type of personality. when i play casual "soccer" the person who screws up gets sent in between the pipes as punishment.
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"...long live snitz!! |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 16:25:48
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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =
Thailand
313 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 19:02:32
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A superb goal and some average defense. I guess 1-1 is a fair result but the win seemed so possible for a while. Well just have to thump Uruguay or.... er France now. We'll see how handy the French are tonight.
The noise and spirit around SA was incredible today.
wilhelm
This is a very American attitude, I know, but a 1-1 draw is such an anticlimatic ending to a hard-fought game.
Really? |
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
1315 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2010 : 04:14:20
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| Go Chile!!!!!!! Chile 1 Honduras 0 |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2010 : 10:29:21
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| Bummer for South Africa. That has to sting for the host country. |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2010 : 18:01:40
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Oh it hurts. It was a poor performance and I don't see the players picking themselves up from here..
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2010 : 21:28:19
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well it's all been rather exciting here in NZ since the draw the other day.
lets see how we do against those italians before we get too excited tho...
well, atleast we're doing better than those aussies!
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/16/2010 : 21:31:29
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Awesome, thanks a bunch!
Good thing they didn't record the sound right after yesterday's red card...
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2010 : 01:33:23
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Disappointed for South Africa but we're very happy with the Swiss win. We can hardly believe it.
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2010 : 09:31:58
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/17/2010 : 10:05:56
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YEAH MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/17/2010 : 10:28:54
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I'm really happy for Mexico, but it totally blows that France played that bad. Unbelievable.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2010 : 11:30:27
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| Maybe a well-timed head-butt would have helped the French team. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2010 : 11:30:40
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I thought the French team were vindicated tonight. They've had to put up with all this bullshit from their own country. Even the French captain tore off his armband the second the final whistle blew. Gotta get behind your team. I have a feeling the lads might tear South Africa apart next game but they'll be playing for themselves not for their country.
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 06/17/2010 : 13:11:28
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Hahahaha this is funny, this is an advertisement of the next match Chile-Switzerland:
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/17/2010 : 23:38:22
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Originally posted by trobrianders
I thought the French team were vindicated tonight. They've had to put up with all this bullshit from their own country. Even the French captain tore off his armband the second the final whistle blew. Gotta get behind your team.
I don't think that's true. The French do have a love-hate relationship with their team (notice how I say "they" and not "we"?), and we don't show support like other countries do (20,000 Mexican against 1,000 French in the stadium yesterday), but nobody wanted them to lose. Last week when the Secretary of Sports dissed the team for staying in a luxury hotel everyone sided with the players.
Now, the coach, that's another story...
Denis
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2010 : 01:32:52
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Originally posted by vilainde
but nobody wanted them to lose.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
Ah, c'est très gentil.
"Jacquet adopted a very defensive strategy, which was often derided by supporters. The press also began to attack the team manager, calling his methods "Paleolithic," and claiming that the team had no hope in winning the 1998 FIFA World Cup, which would be hosted in their home country. However, despite the constant criticism, Jacquet and his strategy led the team to World Cup glory defeating Brazil 3–0 in the final".
Plus ça change.
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