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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 04/04/2010 : 19:12:08
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Originally posted by coastline
Lots of good songs on this album, especially O My Tidy Sum. My only issue is it still doesn't quite work for me as an album. I don't see what ties all these songs together.
What's the official tracklist? Is it the same as the leaked version?
And all of this for nuthin', after all my huffin' and puffin'.
I think despite the musical variety it really holds together well as an album. Lyrically the sexuality in most songs hold it together, and musically EDFs production, like his synths and piano is heard throughout the album. But I think the thing that makes its hold so well is that the songs keep the energy flowing - all the songs play off of each other in my opinion. Its becoming one of those albums where when i hear a song off of it when not listening to the album, I'm expecting and anticipating the next song off the album.
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moksha23x
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Posted - 04/04/2010 : 20:23:33
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Originally posted by 1965
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Originally posted by moksha23x
Lovin' both 'The Golem' and 'NonStopErotik'........I just read this on Blackfrancis.net :
"B-sides for NSE to include four covers, including the tunes "Grindsman", "Lost Me Love", & "Rocket USA". "
Anyone have any clue where to get these?
12. Lost Mi Love [iTunes]
13. Taint No Use [Japan CD version]
14. Rocket USA [Japan CD version]
15. The Grindsman [Japan CD version + iTunes]
I have the key to #902
Hey! Thanks for the info 1965...although,
I can't find 'Lost Mi Love' and 'The Grindsman' on iTunes.
I bought the album off of iTunes and there were no bonus Tracks?
If you have a chance let me know where to find them. Would anyone be
into uploading these bonus tracks from their Japanese versions??
Thanks! take care............
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 20:48:01
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NSE on iTunes Australia has "Lost Mi Love" as a bonus/12th track.
"The Grindsman" is the B-side of Six Legged Man digital single (on iTunes) as well as The Japan CD.
I have the key to #902 |
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 21:37:13
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Pitchfork review; rated 6.6:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14097-nonstoperotik/
Between 1987 and 1993, Pixies released four records and one EP that changed indie music. Between 1993 and the present, Pixies singer Black Francis (aka Frank Black, formerly Charles Thompson, now Black Francis again) has released over a dozen discs under various names and with various collaborators-- some more noteworthy than others, but none changing much of anything. Indeed, changing things hasn't seemed to be part of his agenda-- if not with his first band, then certainly not since, as his solo releases and side projects tend to look more to the past for inspiration than to the future.
Not even the celebrated Pixies comeback could slow his prolific pace. In fact, he's practically doubled his output since the group reunited in the spring of '04. In February, he released a five-disc box set and book for his score to the 1920 silent film The Golem. And now, two short months later, we have NonStopErotik. Like so many of his other releases, the album was recorded quickly and ad hoc with frequent co-conspirator/producer Eric Drew Feldman. And while it won't make you forget the Pixies, some of it seems specifically designed to bring them to mind.
Perhaps logically, Black Francis seems to have no qualms connecting his current output with his formative work. "Six Legged Man" feels like it comes from the same place as Trompe Le Monde, and the dreamy déjà vu gait of "O My Tidy Sum" hits a similarly comforting sweet spot (drum machine, electric piano and fake strings or no). In fact, from "Dead Man's Curve" to "Lake of Sin" to the not-quite-as-icky-as-you-might-expect "When I Go Down On You", few songwriters are as adept at deviously slipping as many changes into relatively concise songs without calling attention to their tricks. It's a stealth trademark: instantly recognizable when you hear it but harder than you think to replicate.
Yet even when Black plays it straight, the results still sometimes skew. If the younger Black Francis might have transformed a cover of the Flying Burrito Brothers' "Wheels" into a cool surf epic rather than a Velvet Underground-inspired reconstruction, the elder delivers an intriguing mix of vitality and cool detachment. It's easy to take those seemingly at-odds qualities for granted, but here Black Francis sounds not just comfortable with that aesthetic but surprisingly and paradoxically in control of it as well.
— Joshua Klein, April 5, 2010
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 21:40:53
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Pretty dire stuff - a review of a Pixies album that wasn't and isn't:
http://hangout.altsounds.com/reviews/116645-black-francis-nonstoperotik-album.html
Returning for the second time to the Black Francis moniker in his post-pixies output, Charles Thompson (aka Frank Black aka Black Francis) un-ambiguously aims to channel some his former bands focused power and insanity on NonStopErotik. While the album contains some strong material, it is routinely let down by the backing musicians assembled for the album. Their conscious attempts at aping the Pixies makes it very difficult to understand why Thompson didn’t record this new material with his former band mates.
Perhaps the other three are reluctant to record new material lest they diminish the legacy of their 2 classic and 2 near-classic albums. Or maybe Kim Deal figures she remains better off making new material with The Breeders, and the others rightfully know that new material recorded without her could only be terrible.
All the problems the album have are best represented by the sleeve art. One photo is composed identically to the cover of Come on Pilgrim, but where that EP had a grotesque back covered in hair, NonStopErotik has a shot of a nude woman’s back. In short, Thompson is trying to re-create the glory of the Pixies but without the courage to mine their surreal and terrifying subject matter, making the album sound, to use a word I never thought could apply to Black Francis, tame.
The lyrics to the album seem to have been written in the same way as the Pixies songs i.e. in a spontaneous automatic writing style. They disappointingly veer between trying to hard to be in your face and being too disciplined. The lyrics are also let down by Thomson’s attempt to bring out the former fervent insanity of his singing. Where once he sounded like a particularly disturbed Pentecostal preacher, now he sounds like a relatively contented family man.
All this is not to say that "NonStopErotik" is a bad album, opener 'Lake of Sin' and 'Dead Man’s Curve' show that Black Francis isn’t yet out of ammunition. But leaving clues that he thinks this material is as good as that of the Pixies raises the listener’s expectation too high. There is plenty to enjoy here, but Pixies fans will be left wondering why this isn’t the new Pixies album that their 2004 and subsequent reunions and “Bam Thwok” made seem inevitable.
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MajorKey
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Posted - 04/04/2010 : 22:15:53
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| The japanese version with the 3 bonus tracks can be found on pirate bay. "Rocket USA" is great--you'll want to play it loud. "Taint No Use" might take me a couple more listens for it to take hold. Has kind of the same tempo as "Test Pilot Blues." "The Grindsman" has really grown on me, and I think of these three tracks it's the one closest in sound and style to NSE. Haven't seen or heard "Lost Mi Love" yet. |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 05:55:21
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Originally posted by Ten Percenter
Their conscious attempts at aping the Pixies makes it very difficult to understand why Thompson didn’t record this new material with his former band mates.
I don't think I hear a single song on NSE that sounds like the Pixies or like the band is trying to sound like the Pixies. What the fuck is this guy talking about?
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IceManCometh
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 06:39:12
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 07:02:14
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 07:26:08
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Originally posted by Brank_Flack
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Originally posted by coastline
Lots of good songs on this album, especially O My Tidy Sum. My only issue is it still doesn't quite work for me as an album. I don't see what ties all these songs together.
What's the official tracklist? Is it the same as the leaked version?
And all of this for nuthin', after all my huffin' and puffin'.
I think despite the musical variety it really holds together well as an album. Lyrically the sexuality in most songs hold it together, and musically EDFs production, like his synths and piano is heard throughout the album. But I think the thing that makes its hold so well is that the songs keep the energy flowing - all the songs play off of each other in my opinion. Its becoming one of those albums where when i hear a song off of it when not listening to the album, I'm expecting and anticipating the next song off the album.
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The harder songs seem out of place to me, especially Dead Man's Curve. But I suppose that's probably because I know it from another context, and another time.
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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =
USA
349 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 07:36:32
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Originally posted by Ten Percenter
Don't think this one has been posted yet - rated 7 out of 10 if you care!:
http://panicdots.com/2010/03/album-review-black-francis-nonstoperotik/
Black Francis – NONSTOPEROTIK Cooking Vinyl (2010)
“This wrinkle in time can’t give it no credit”
NONSTOPEROTIK is Black Francis’ best album since 1994’s sprawling “Teenager of The Year” the record widely praised by both critics and fans as his strongest post-Pixies moment. NONSTOPEROTIK, put together to coincide with a film by Judy Jacobs, alternates, maneuvers and ploys the listener. Songs fluctuate from sheer, tenacious raw rock, to sweet synth-string melodies, and culminate in the unrestricted crushing menace reminiscent of Pixies classics.
NonStopErotik is almost entirely and unreservedly about sex, exploring frenzied associations to sensuality and love, all accomplished with relative ease. Black recruits former collaborator Eric Drew Feldman (Captain Beefheart, Pere Ubu) with the resulting interplay between Feldman’s sparse instrumentation and Black’s punctuated voice and guitar combining into a dense, enveloping sound.
There are no immediate stand out tracks, though whatever the creative impulse behind it all, as a whole it works.
"I thought that I had reached bedrock, but I had yet to reach Birmingham..."
huh?
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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 07:59:36
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
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Originally posted by Ten Percenter
Their conscious attempts at aping the Pixies makes it very difficult to understand why Thompson didn’t record this new material with his former band mates.
I don't think I hear a single song on NSE that sounds like the Pixies or like the band is trying to sound like the Pixies. What the fuck is this guy talking about?
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
i concur. and "two near classic" albums? every single song/album the pixies had before they broke up is classic. i had reviewers like this. reviewers for movies and music should list their top 50 fave albums everytime they write that way you can tell if they suck or not. like this guy.
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
USA
954 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 09:28:33
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Originally posted by MajorKey
The japanese version with the 3 bonus tracks can be found on pirate bay. "Rocket USA" is great--you'll want to play it loud. "Taint No Use" might take me a couple more listens for it to take hold. Has kind of the same tempo as "Test Pilot Blues." "The Grindsman" has really grown on me, and I think of these three tracks it's the one closest in sound and style to NSE. Haven't seen or heard "Lost Mi Love" yet.
lost mi love .... is on itunes as a bonus
http://itunes.apple.com/fr/album/nonstoperotik/id362988855
also - I am German-challenged, but I'm assuming this article w/ audio is just FB/BF commenting on songs he likes, including "Lost Mi Love":
http://www.einslive.de/musik/kassettendeck/2008/03/frank_black.jsp
err: correction -- not available on iTunes US
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 13:53:39
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I'm no pitchfork hater, but FB reviews are the one thing that always make me call bs on the whole site. I mean, do these guys just have a mental block when it comes to FB? 6.6 for Bluefinger? 6.8 for SVN FNGRS? And now 6.6 for NSE!? These albums are 7's, easily, but pfork just can't seem to bring themselves to admit it.
Anyhoo, NSE grows and grows. At first, I too was unsure how I felt about it. I still feel, like others, that some of the louder songs, while great, are out of place. But who cares. The comparisons to TotY are accurate. Both albums are a bunch of beautifully produced, though random songs. Relating this in any way to the Pixies, just because of the Black Francis moniker seems way off the mark.
Maybe not as good as Bluefinger. Maybe not as good as Golem. We'll see. but the thing goes so fast that I just keep putting it on repeat and enjoying it more and more each time.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 14:57:02
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I think this one will be a grower on the highest order. I really love it already, but, like all good FBF records, it's a subconscious little worm that keeps burrowing around in my brain while I carry out my daily activities that do not include listening to music.
@ motorscutor ---> I almost always disagree with pitchfork reviews. I'm usually suspect if they give something a GOOD review. Honestly though, most people just don't get FBF, even if they think they get the Pixies. I don't see the disconnect, myself. I've ranted about it before on other threads. I have to say though, I couldn't handle this album if it didn't include the louder songs. They work great in the context of the album, IMO. I read a review somewhere that calls the album a "rollercoaster," and that's dead on, in a good way. I think the sequencing is perfect, except I still can't dig the chorus of Lake of Sin. I do feel, that as a listening experience, it is much better than The Golem. But the Golem is much much much more rewarding. And it's like apples and oranges as far as subject matter.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 01:07:31
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 05:08:52
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Originally posted by Carl
inthenews.co.uk - Black Francis - Nonstoperotik.
"The theme of sex really is non-stop"
"whoever mixed this album clearly wasn't taking it seriously either. The production is terrible"
"I'm just going to come out and say it: Black Francis can't sing. [...] Although you could argue that it doesn't matter and his writing and lyrics are more important, it would still be nicer if he would take a lesson from greats like Hendrix and Dylan"
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 06:04:27
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Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by Carl
inthenews.co.uk - Black Francis - Nonstoperotik.
"The theme of sex really is non-stop"
"whoever mixed this album clearly wasn't taking it seriously either. The production is terrible"
"I'm just going to come out and say it: Black Francis can't sing. [...] Although you could argue that it doesn't matter and his writing and lyrics are more important, it would still be nicer if he would take a lesson from greats like Hendrix and Dylan"
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
1. Not really
2. The production is gorgeous, but marred by a terrible mix. Spoils the album a lot.
3. Not entirely fair or accurate, but there are some pretty weak vocals on the record. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 06:12:27
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Bought my copy last night. Nice tidy little packaging. I like that he included lyrics, and the pix of Violet are sort of sexy, especially the gateway pic.
It's kinda weird, though, reaching into Violet to pull out the disc or the lyrics booklet.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 09:56:31
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Woohoo! Just picked it up. And on FB's birthday, no less. It's a big day
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 10:06:53
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I’ve had a week now to reflect, and would like to submit my review. Please note these are just my personal observations, critiques, praises, etc. and will probably be screamed at by some here (I’ve been around…it can get pretty hot in here!)…but c’est la vie. Here goes.
Someone said NSE is like a rollercoaster. A rollercoaster offers predictability. You see the track before you get on it. You see and hear the whoosh and the speed of the train before you experience it. You are locked in place by a restraining belt. You are denied the ride if you happen to be too big or too small. And you ultimately know where it starts and where it ends.
I say NONSTOPEROTIK is also on par with an earthquake…and I know from experience being a southern Californian. Earthquakes do whatever they want, whenever they want, without bias, without prejudice, without safety standards, without a time limit, and without warning.
Both rollercoaster and earthquake shake, rattle and roll. Both usually start off casually but with a specific and deliberate agenda. But where a rollercoaster speeds into the laid-out second act, an earthquake may continue to build and wreak indefinitely. It is more common for an earthquake to level structures than it is for a train to derail, yet both incidents do occur on occasion. And they both end, finally…yet one when the brakes are applied and one when the earth damn well pleases.
Both exhilarate, frighten, and cause a certain degree of discomfort. NSE does all of this.
Whether it’s viewed (or skewed) as a collection of songs or a conceptual chronicle of coital creativity, NSE goes all the way too fast. Somehow either as a listener or a sonic sex partner, I am inclined to skip the foreplay more often than not (Lake of Sin, O My Tidy Sum, Rabbits) and jump straight into the action.
Wheels is a fun cover…one of my favorites on the album, strangely. But just as it is a non-evolving song, it is as seemingly out-of-place along with its 3 followers (Dead Man’s Curve, Corrina, and Six-Legged Man) on the album. Therefore, they are a quadruple conundrum. These four songs not only elevate the metabolism of the album but also act as the respiratory system and work only in conjunction with one another as opposed to having any effect solo. These tracks are exhilarating in their firmly placed order, but flat and routine when examined alone. Cinema Star could have easily rounded out this grouping and would have been a perfect denouement, leaving When I Go Down On You and Nonstoperotik as the aurally ethereal after-sex cigarette.
The first three tracks, and Wild Son, are in my opinion too close to what we’ve heard most recently on Petit Fours and Christmass. It’s not that they’re bad…on the contrary, they’re quite solid. The opening to Lake of Sin is incredibly cool. Rabbits is eerily quaint. But somehow in or out of context, they seem like subordinates from an erstwhile oeuvre.
I am a bit bewildered by the mix. I will not mince words here. It is a huge disappointment. The live-to-two-track albums had better separation and depth. This is even worse than Bluefinger. Eric Drew Feldman’s contributions are swimming blind in this muddy soup, and the vocals are sloppily placed and hard to make out at some points. There were some great areas for dramatic flair (why didn’t the first 6 bars of Dead Man’s Curve build into a crescendo on the 7th?) that just slipped through the cracks. Oddly, EDF’s contributions had a mechanical quality to them as well. This is nit-picky stuff…but it’s what I feel.
I may have to re-examine all this in a few months and see if it seems the same.
Looking back over this entire essay (or whatever it is), it sounds like I don’t like NSE. But I do like it. Maybe not love it. Like those relationships where it just falls short of total attraction, and that creepiness begins to unravel the whole thing.
Or the earthquake shakes it apart. Or the rollercoaster comes to an end.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 10:18:40
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
why didn’t the first 6 bars of Dead Man’s Curve build into a crescendo on the 7th?
I agree 100% with this. That's really weird.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 10:29:19
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Interesting analogy, Tranny, though NSE is hardly an earthquake after the first time you listen to it -- it settles into the roller coaster pattern and you learn to brace for the curves. (Maybe a better analogy is that damned Space Mountain roller coaster I rode last week. Stupid thing is in the dark. Scared me out of my wits.)
I pretty much feel the same way you do about this album. Honestly, half the songs seem out of place, and I still can't figure out what holds it together, a month after first hearing it. But, like you, I like it, I really do. It's like crack -- I keep putting it on and listening to it, over and over. So he's done something right.
There's no way this album is TOTY 2, as some have suggested, but it's good. Not a classic, but good anyway. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 10:30:50
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Black Francis can't sing. Not the way he tries to on this album, certainly. Although the songwriting is mostly good, his voice detracts from many of the tracks, especially the ones that are actually really good such as Cinema Star.
That's really strange. How do you know what somebody was trying to do? You have the result in the record, the rest is pure speculation.
The most important thing when you sing is probably to have some fun doing it, to feel something. Now the question could be: is Charles still enjoying it exatly the same? I guess just a little less, so you can have that filler feeling, but a lot of times you can tell he's still enjoying it totally. On tracks like "Selkie Bride", "In the time of my ruin", "Angels come to comfort you" or "Rabbits" among many others, you really can feel the pure joy of singing. That's not about technique, it's about pleasure. Those songs are stimulating to sing, especially in the dynamic between the changes (how various parts get together and produce magic) wich to my opinion has allways been Charles trademark. it's not like "okay, i'll do something i know how to do". So I dont know why that article tries to separate songwriting and singing... |
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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 10:52:46
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
I think this one will be a grower on the highest order. I really love it already, but, like all good FBF records, it's a subconscious little worm that keeps burrowing around in my brain while I carry out my daily activities that do not include listening to music.
@ motorscutor ---> I almost always disagree with pitchfork reviews. I'm usually suspect if they give something a GOOD review. Honestly though, most people just don't get FBF, even if they think they get the Pixies. I don't see the disconnect, myself. I've ranted about it before on other threads. I have to say though, I couldn't handle this album if it didn't include the louder songs. They work great in the context of the album, IMO. I read a review somewhere that calls the album a "rollercoaster," and that's dead on, in a good way. I think the sequencing is perfect, except I still can't dig the chorus of Lake of Sin. I do feel, that as a listening experience, it is much better than The Golem. But the Golem is much much much more rewarding. And it's like apples and oranges as far as subject matter.
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
i think for the most part that you have to listen to his albums for a while before you can give a proper review. listen to it 5 or 6 times then put it down for 6 months. "it works!"
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trobrianders
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 11:10:42
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I'm now daring myself not to scream at you bRIAN after you so readily dispatched my two favorites on the album; Wild Son and Tidy Sum. Wild Son I've heard about 1026 times in the last 30 days. It just burned itself into my solo catalog top ten and claimed unprecedented access to all areas of my brain.
I was never in danger of screaming at you cos I enjoyed your essay anyway. I'll leave the screaming to Denis who can summon up all that lovely French flavor. Instead I could offer some consolation. I found it hard to discern seperation and depth the first couple of weeks but with familiarity came the sounds. I didn't think the mix had been botched. I always thought it was intentional to muddy it, to curtain it off, to obscure it behind stained glass or sepia, and that was frustrating for a while but I did get accustomed to it. Like a candlelit old dim church.
I've called it in turn a ceremonial, a Faberge egg, a veiled thing. That's all the explanation the production/mix needs for me to love it. Hope it's something that you can fall into too. Like an earthquake.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 12:34:09
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I'm finding the descriptions of the production to be very nice reading. "Frosted glass," from the inthenews review, and trob's great descriptions. I'd said that this album was beautifully produced. I need to admit now that I don't know the first thing about production v.s mixing, or whatnot. I think maybe I meant was "wall of sound-ness" or something. The muddiness was very apparent on the first listen, especially when I switched over to Golem. But it doesn't bother me now and might have been, as others have guessed, a deliberate choice.
Oh, and for those of you skipping "O My Tidy Sum," I seriously hope that you're able to come around.
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Don Eduardo
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 12:53:20
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Someone said earlier that it sounds like it was done in multiple sessions, it certainly sounds like it. The mix on some tracks is downright murky, while others sound great (Rabbits, O My Tidy Sum, NSE)
Loving the album though, great songs. Particularly O My Tidy Sum, DMC, Corrina, 6 Legged Man, and Cinema Star (FB's best album closer since So. Bay!).
When I Go Down On You is an FB classic!
The others are enjoyable too, though Wild Son hasn't quite clicked yet.
Great to be a Frank fan this year....two top-notch albums in matter of months...when's the next Frank? :) |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 12:56:19
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btw, hi to everyone who might recognize my SN. Haven't been around for years, but I've been keeping a close eye on y'all :)
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 13:01:08
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I'm surprised more people aren't put off by the directness of When I Go Down on You.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 16:22:49
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I'm put off by most of the album.
Welcome back scutor. |
Edited by - darwin on 04/06/2010 16:23:49 |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 18:20:38
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quote:
Originally posted by joe FITZ of molly BANG
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
I think this one will be a grower on the highest order. I really love it already, but, like all good FBF records, it's a subconscious little worm that keeps burrowing around in my brain while I carry out my daily activities that do not include listening to music.
@ motorscutor ---> I almost always disagree with pitchfork reviews. I'm usually suspect if they give something a GOOD review. Honestly though, most people just don't get FBF, even if they think they get the Pixies. I don't see the disconnect, myself. I've ranted about it before on other threads. I have to say though, I couldn't handle this album if it didn't include the louder songs. They work great in the context of the album, IMO. I read a review somewhere that calls the album a "rollercoaster," and that's dead on, in a good way. I think the sequencing is perfect, except I still can't dig the chorus of Lake of Sin. I do feel, that as a listening experience, it is much better than The Golem. But the Golem is much much much more rewarding. And it's like apples and oranges as far as subject matter.
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
i think for the most part that you have to listen to his albums for a while before you can give a proper review. listen to it 5 or 6 times then put it down for 6 months. "it works!"
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I hope you're talking about pitchfork and not me, 'cause advice like that on this board is like going to a Mac forum and saying 'OSX is better than Vista'...
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 18:28:53
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Originally posted by Carl
inthenews.co.uk - Black Francis - Nonstoperotik.
Jose Jones: this is what I mean by 'vendetta'
Maybe the wrong word, but you'd have to be a cocks-smoke with a bone to pick to write/compile a review like this.
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