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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
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Posted - 09/29/2007 :  22:31:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a Bluefinger from up on the hill
Above the dark water that's flowing there still
My blood is Isala, and I'd rather swill
I came down from the top, and I drank every drop

I went through the Sassengate and I got on the train
The Pepperbox bell, blowing my brains
But I made it go quicker with Spanish cocaine
And I looked at the cows, and I made solemn vows

If my choices are poor
Well, I made them
And who's that knocking on my door?
I paid them, I paid them

If my choices are poor
I made them, I made them
And who's knocking on my door?
I paid them, I paid them

I don't need the do not disturb me sign
The manager here is a friend of mine
So baby, let's go just one more time
I'm a jumping jack to this thing on my back

And all of my choices were pure
Yeah, I made them, I made them
And who's that knocking on my door
Well, I paid them, yeah, I paid them


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2007 :  22:33:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And here's the version Frank first posted on the forum, which was assumed to have gone through Babelfish -- from English to Dutch and then back to English:

I am in top Bluefinger on the hill over the dark water to still run there but my blood of eerder Schweinetrab is Isala, and I' D came me at the surface, and I have myself each decrease drunk went through the pressure balance chamber door and received on the course Pepperbox the clock, which blows my brain, but I have it with the Spanish cocaine returned go noiseless, and I examined and made the cows the solemn oaths, if my choice is bad it made, her made me, and which corresponds with my door? I do not have it did not pay, her did not pay me to need to me disturb it sign here me the manager a friend mine am, thus go the baby, only more time am a lever jump at this thing on my back me, and everyone my choice were to clean me made, they made I, and who corresponds with my door? I paid it, paid her me.


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2007 :  22:36:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I'm triple posting to open this thread.

PixieSteve pointed out in another thread that this is a polarizing song -- you either think it's one of the best on the album or one of the worst. I fall in the former camp, but I see from the Bluefinger Survivor game that many people just don't like it. I wonder why this is. What makes it so polarizing?


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the acorahs
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United Kingdom
181 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2007 :  04:40:36  Show Profile  Visit the acorahs's Homepage  Click to see the acorahs's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think it isn't an 'instant' song, it isn't like captain pasty which you can enjoy properly the first time you hear it. The whole song, and lyrics in particular, just seem to make more sense when you know more about the Brood story, or even just listen to a bit of the Dutchman. It is certainly a grower.

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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2007 :  06:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Yes, I'm triple posting to open this thread.

PixieSteve pointed out in another thread that this is a polarizing song -- you either think it's one of the best on the album or one of the worst. I fall in the former camp, but I see from the Bluefinger Survivor game that many people just don't like it. I wonder why this is. What makes it so polarizing?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.


maybe cos it's so different from the rest of the album?


"How do you like that, Sir Harold?
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2007 :  09:46:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to keep harping on about Sinatra but Brood was compelled to cover 'My Way' and to imagine a version of Brood's own 'My Way' is a genius idea to close the album. Maybe it makes the song more likeable viewing it this way?

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Edited by - trobrianders on 09/30/2007 09:47:54
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Nate in the PDX
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USA
145 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2007 :  19:14:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
coastline, just curious, did you try it yourself? taking the 'real' lyrics and sending them through Babelfish from English to Dutch to English? to see how closely they match up with that mysterious version originally posted on the forum?
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
469 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2007 :  00:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the harmonies but mostly I find this song a bit dull compared to the rest of the album. I agree with the acorahs that it's not an 'instant' song, but it hasn't grown on me much having listened to it about 523 times.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2007 :  05:46:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't dislike this song at all, I just like it less than all the others on the album.
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2007 :  06:21:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Best song on the album. I think after Threshold this grabbed my attention the most on the first couple of listens. I can listen to this on repeat and not get sick of hearing it. Sometimes a song just gets everything perfect, absolutely everything.

This is one of those songs.


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Nate in the PDX
- FB Fan -

USA
145 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2007 :  06:52:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Bluefinger' didn't jump out at me immediately the way 'Sing for Joy' did on Honeycomb, as a glorious, transcendent closing track which provides a perfect cap to and yet is noticeably different from the album which precedes it.

[Most of the albums have one, as has probably been commented on numerous times; it's something of a hallmark of the man. Some of them have been more successful (more transcendent) than others. 'Manitoba' still doesn't quite work for me, but 'Fields of Marigold' still gets me every time. And so on.]

But 'Bluefinger' has really grown on me, and now I would agree with pixiestu that it's the best song on the album.
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Scalzo
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USA
57 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2007 :  09:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love this song. One of my favorites. It's strikes a strong emotional connection for me. The line "If my choices are poor. Well, I made them." has really been a main theme of my life for the last year.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2007 :  20:32:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
for some reason, I go back and forth with the song. lyrically i love the song but i find my self listening to and appreciating or fast forwarding depending on my mood. if i am mellow I will listen. I agree with Scalzo that the line "If my choices are poor, well I made them" line is cool. i also like how fb varies it up with "pure".

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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2007 :  20:14:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nate in the PDX

'Bluefinger' didn't jump out at me immediately the way 'Sing for Joy' did on Honeycomb, as a glorious, transcendent closing track which provides a perfect cap to and yet is noticeably different from the album which precedes it.

[Most of the albums have one, as has probably been commented on numerous times; it's something of a hallmark of the man. Some of them have been more successful (more transcendent) than others. 'Manitoba' still doesn't quite work for me, but 'Fields of Marigold' still gets me every time. And so on.]

But 'Bluefinger' has really grown on me, and now I would agree with pixiestu that it's the best song on the album.


I'm almost with Nate and Pixies Tu on this, in terms of it being the best song on the album. This is the song that summarizes the album -- or, rather the subject's life, just like "Sing For Joy" does for "Honeycomb." Thinking of it that way, I kinda wish it were longer. "Sing For Joy" is FB's epic, as he put it. BF's closing track could have been longer and more epic itself.

And Violet's backing vocals -- "I made them, I made them" -- shouldn't go unmentioned. For me, this is where she earns her place alongside FB. She's not just his wife singing along him, she's every bit the addition to this song that Kim Deal's vocals were to the Pixies.


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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
469 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2007 :  01:05:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree that lyrically the song is a highlight, but musically it's not as interesting as most of the other tracks. A bit too 'trad' for me, like something off FMRM. I imagine that's why it's been voted off on the Bluefinger survivor thread.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2007 :  16:33:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point. You're right it does have that traditional feel.

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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2007 :  16:34:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Pixies Tu



¿Pixies, tú?

i would put an upside down question mark but i don't know how.
[edit: thanks tro]


"How do you like that, Sir Harold?

Edited by - mr.biscuitdoughhead on 10/04/2007 13:38:48
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2007 :  17:10:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
¿ Hee hee.

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2007 :  13:29:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it's a lovely song, kinda heart-wrenching.

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  05:45:30  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
a classic track, someting the Fields of Marigold should have been like. I think this is one of the best Bluefinger-tracks.

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Blank_Frackis
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55 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  07:38:42  Show Profile  Visit Blank_Frackis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like it as a song, but it's not the most enjoyable song on the album for me. I know what the lyrics refer to and it has grown on me somewhat, but it doesn't work for me the way say... Manitoba does. Manitoba tied the whole album together, Bluefinger is just another song to me. Not that it's bad, I just enjoy the first half of the album a bit more.

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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  12:22:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not immediately a classic, but I bloody love it now. The harmonies certainly help, but it's the perfect ending to a record, in the same way that 'Manitoba' does the trick for 'SMYT'. Compare the refrain of 'if all my choices were poor...' with 'I have seen the face of God', bleak definance if you like, but essentially, a fine song!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  12:37:50  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Everytime I hear it, it blends into another.

I am a Bluefinger from up on the hill. Above the dark water that's flowing there still. My blood is Isala, and I'd rather swill. My nightmare of you again.

I'm feeling the Manitoba vibe.
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  12:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it said "My blood is a solid, and I'd rather swim."
I guess that doesn't make sense.


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fbc
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Posted - 10/05/2007 :  12:56:38  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i thought tight black rubber mentioned a jiffy bag.
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houstonguthrie
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187 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  15:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by Nate in the PDX

'Bluefinger' didn't jump out at me immediately the way 'Sing for Joy' did on Honeycomb, as a glorious, transcendent closing track which provides a perfect cap to and yet is noticeably different from the album which precedes it.

[Most of the albums have one, as has probably been commented on numerous times; it's something of a hallmark of the man. Some of them have been more successful (more transcendent) than others. 'Manitoba' still doesn't quite work for me, but 'Fields of Marigold' still gets me every time. And so on.]

But 'Bluefinger' has really grown on me, and now I would agree with pixiestu that it's the best song on the album.


I'm almost with Nate and Pixies Tu on this, in terms of it being the best song on the album. This is the song that summarizes the album -- or, rather the subject's life, just like "Sing For Joy" does for "Honeycomb." Thinking of it that way, I kinda wish it were longer. "Sing For Joy" is FB's epic, as he put it. BF's closing track could have been longer and more epic itself.

And Violet's backing vocals -- "I made them, I made them" -- shouldn't go unmentioned. For me, this is where she earns her place alongside FB. She's not just his wife singing along him, she's every bit the addition to this song that Kim Deal's vocals were to the Pixies.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.




AGREED - everybody had been highly complimentary of Violet's contributions - and rightfully so. This tune in particular benefits greatly from the mojo that Miss Thing put on it.

Maybe it's because I get so much enjoyment out of playing these songs on acoustic myself but nowadays I find myself thinking all the time - "I'd love to hear the solo acoustic version of that one". This one would be great solo acoustic with the two of them. Wish they had played it when they were in that elevator.
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pixiestu
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United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  16:34:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by houstonguthrie

This one would be great solo acoustic with the two of them.

But then it wouldn't be solo


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