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clemray
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 Posted - 10/01/2007 : 16:04:50
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is it pronounced Brote?
i wonder b/c that's what it sounds like in ACTCY. or is this poetic license? |
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 19:58:59
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Nate in the PDX
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2007 : 12:46:54
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| BF made a joke about this at the show last night, when he was talking about the inspiration for the record, pronouncing the name in a sort of anglicized fashion (rhyming with "German food") and then in a more or less authentic-sounding Dutch fashion, kind of like hair-mon brote. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 10/02/2007 : 18:04:26
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very cool billgoodman. i heard it but i wouldn't know how to spell it phonetically.
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Mismatched Sasquatch
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Posted - 10/02/2007 : 19:24:51
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Originally posted by Nate in the PDX
BF made a joke about this at the show last night
Arrrgghh!! West Coast shows, it's almost more than I can take...come East Frank! Must hear ingenious Bluefinger live |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2007 : 20:17:46
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I learned from billgoodman that it's pronounced "brote," and that the word means bread in Dutch. And I learned from Frank Black, in a radio interview, that the "English" version is pronounced "brewd." Which is also how Daisy Girl pronounced it on her own radio show.
That Brood means bread should explain the line in "Angels Come to Comfort You" where the angels are "whispering the name that rhymes with 'dead.' "
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2007 : 05:15:51
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Yes, but there's more too it
'Brood' rhymes with 'Dood'
which also means dead.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/03/2007 : 05:18:27
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I almost forgot that BF says Herman Brood in the first sentence of Angels Come to comfort you.
He has a good pronunciation.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 10/03/2007 : 05:47:48
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That's high praise coming from you, Jop.
I'd like a link to a voice file of you pronouncing it, please. An fb.net tutorial, if you will.
Happy hearts fall from my shaking hands
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 10/03/2007 : 14:27:46
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I don't think native English speakers can pronounce Dutch properly. It's one of those things where past a certain age, you just can't learn it.
I work with a dude name Joost Bruining, and I can get his first name (phonetically it's like "yohst"), but I've tried pronouncing his last name a hundred times and can never get it right. It's got a sound that almost like gargling in it, like "bjroining" or something like that (think "fjord" but without the "o").
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 10/03/2007 : 16:16:54
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Originally posted by coastline
I learned from billgoodman that it's pronounced "brote," and that the word means bread in Dutch. And I learned from Frank Black, in a radio interview, that the "English" version is pronounced "brewd." Which is also how Daisy Girl pronounced it on her own radio show.
That Brood means bread should explain the line in "Angels Come to Comfort You" where the angels are "whispering the name that rhymes with 'dead.' "
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
yeah, I definately wouldn't use my pronunciation as a guide. i butchered his name but really didn't know how to pronounce it correctly. now, i know how it sounds, but don't know how to duplicate it.
We're all obscure fans.- trobrianders
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/03/2007 : 16:20:43
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I thought it was pronounced like "blood".
 "How do you like that, Sir Harold?
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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 10/04/2007 : 06:04:30
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Originally posted by Jefrey
I don't think native English speakers can pronounce Dutch properly. It's one of those things where past a certain age, you just can't learn it.
Growing up listening to a ton of Flemish and Dutch, I can say you are right. Much coughing and throat-clearing is involved in speaking those languages. Like ever heard a Dutch person correctly pronounce Vincent van gogh's last name? Hooo.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/04/2007 : 12:29:28
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I did try to teach you dutch on this board some years ago, remember?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 10/04/2007 : 13:24:39
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Watched Paul Verhoeven's Zwartboek (Black Book) last night, with subtitles of course, but Dutch must be one of the closest languages to English. I think the director's name is pronounced 'Powel Ferhova' in Holland!
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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 10/04/2007 : 16:09:09
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Originally posted by billgoodman
I did try to teach you dutch on this board some years ago, remember?
You did. I am hopeless. This afternoon I met my kid's new soccer coach -- from outside Amsterdam. Lovely, lovely accent. It was a nice connection to make -- another Dutchman.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/05/2007 : 05:42:11
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Originally posted by Carl
Watched Paul Verhoeven's Zwartboek (Black Book) last night, with subtitles of course, but Dutch must be one of the closest languages to English. I think the director's name is pronounced 'Powel Ferhova' in Holland!
"In six months, she'll look like Grandma Moses!"
still haven't seen it, what do you think of Carice van Houten, she has class if you ask me.
it's more like:
Powl Fer-who-van, but that's still not it.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 10/05/2007 : 16:42:41
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Carice Van Houten is rather lovely. Somebody was saying on IMDb message board that she can't act, I've only seen her in this but I thought she was very good. She's actually dating German actor Sebastian Koch who also stars in Zwartboek, and who was also in the excellent The Lives Of Others which I watched beforehand (went on a movie binge-had watched 300 earlier!).
I actually thought the n was usually silent in a lot of Dutch words ending in 'an'. Somehow, I think you'd know better than me Jop, hehe!! ;)
Mak ik Netherlands spreken?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 05:17:55
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Natuurlijk mag je dat, Carl!
The 'n' is not silent at all, but still nice try! Carica can act, if you ask me, IMDb: what do those guys know? Just a bunch of internetgeeks with too much time on their hands
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 11:40:25
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Originally posted by billgoodman
Just a bunch of internetgeeks with too much time on their hands
*ahem* yeah! Those geeks!
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brood - pronunciation ??
