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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 09/03/2007 : 09:32:10
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I got it!
I really enjoy Julian Clark's childlish and expressionist touch of the cover and of the inner illustrations as well, the hand written lyrics in the booklet and the 'trompe l'oeil' effect of the sleeve. It works pretty well!
Of course I already hear coming the complaints about the small carboard format but it's a leitmotive around here I guess...
I enjoy the whole thing.
And the subtle new mixes of the songs!
Thanks Black family.
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1670 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2007 : 09:35:08
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subtle new mixes? Do the songs sound any different than from the leak?
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2007 : 09:58:48
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Maybe yes... Or maybe not!
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2007 : 00:19:00
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You gotta admit though, the packaging IS annoying... I took the CD off of it and put it in a jewel case.
I like Jason's artwork quite a bit. The two-headed monster is pretty cool.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2007 : 01:11:18
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packaging smackaging. This packaging thing really bugs me. For people who are meant to be into music as a art form and all that, its amazing. I could'nt give a fuck if it came in a shoe box, you just want to get it into the CD player. The music and lyrics are what this is about.
Actually it would be better if it came in a shoe box as it would prevent some spice girl fan picking it up by mistake and diluting my enjoyment, as i would be forced to admit that i had something more in common with them. I already feel bad that so much of our DNA is common.
marketing smarketing.
Go on give me the tired line that the packaging is also art. A tangible grounding for something so ethereal as the concept of music is useful. Bull.
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2007 : 03:57:41
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quote:
Originally posted by lonely persuader
I'm being intolerant this morning. Don't mind me.
Welcome to the forum! 
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2007 : 12:42:17
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All I've seen is the album cover on amazon.com. I knew not to expect anything good, but this is a new low.
If Toby Keith did a benefit album for autism, that could easily be the cover.
I know that the 4AD/v23 artwork was a hard act to follow, but almost all of FB's record sleeves since 1996 have been gay &/or lame &/or ugly.
check out my friend's paintings at http://myspace.com/landspeedsong |
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Triakel
- FB Fan -
119 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2007 : 14:38:08
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2007 : 02:30:20
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Originally posted by jimmy
All I've seen is the album cover on amazon.com. I knew not to expect anything good, but this is a new low.
If Toby Keith did a benefit album for autism, that could easily be the cover.
I know that the 4AD/v23 artwork was a hard act to follow, but almost all of FB's record sleeves since 1996 have been gay &/or lame &/or ugly.
check out my friend's paintings at http://myspace.com/landspeedsong
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gyaneshwar
- FB Fan -
194 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2007 : 06:26:23
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Originally posted by jimmy
All I've seen is the album cover on amazon.com. I knew not to expect anything good, but this is a new low.
If Toby Keith did a benefit album for autism, that could easily be the cover.
I know that the 4AD/v23 artwork was a hard act to follow, but almost all of FB's record sleeves since 1996 have been gay &/or lame &/or ugly.
check out my friend's paintings at http://myspace.com/landspeedsong
I've only seen the cover art online as well, and I don't think it looks all that bad. I don't really agree with you, Jimmy, but you made me laugh, and that's what's important.
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I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2007 : 07:19:04
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Originally posted by lonely persuader
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy
All I've seen is the album cover on amazon.com. I knew not to expect anything good, but this is a new low.
If Toby Keith did a benefit album for autism, that could easily be the cover.
I know that the 4AD/v23 artwork was a hard act to follow, but almost all of FB's record sleeves since 1996 have been gay &/or lame &/or ugly.
check out my friend's paintings at http://myspace.com/landspeedsong
Your friend is gay
haha!
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2007 : 13:00:24
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I think Frank Black should stop releasing albums every year and focus on his albums' covers, cause that's what rock'n roll is all about for modern kids!
Yeah!
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 01:37:49
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seconded.
my record collection looks so beautiful. |
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 05:43:56
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Did anybody get the poster that came with the online Cooking Vinyl (pre)order? What is it?
I have the key to #902 |
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 03:47:45
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Originally posted by vilainde
You gotta admit though, the packaging IS annoying... I took the CD off of it and put it in a jewel case.
I like Jason's artwork quite a bit. The two-headed monster is pretty cool.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
I would say that the 'two headed monster' is a visual representation of 'your mouth into mine'
Ade
As the air conditioner hummed.... |
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The King of Siam
- FB Fan -
Sweden
21 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 07:47:43
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Got mine today! It looks and fells wonderful. Been waiting for this album since i first heard about it in April. And downloaded it at the same time. But the real thing is the best!
Worth waiting for...
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 02:31:21
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bought my copy today.
like the packaging a lot.
i like how the cd has no sticker on the front saying 'lead singer of seminal rock band the pixies' or somesuch.
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:24:09
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Took a quick look in a couple of music stores today, couldn't find it! It has been released over here, hasn't it?!
Anyone for knob Marmite? |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:31:50
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Originally posted by Carl
Took a quick look in a couple of music stores today, couldn't find it! It has been released over here, hasn't it?!
Anyone for knob Marmite?
It's really thin - maybe you couldn't see it. Then again, Equatorial Guinea has a slow mail system from what I hear.
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:47:59
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 21:08:42
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I like these cardboard sleeves and I think they're an improvement over digipaks. While digipaks today don't seem to be made with those fragile teeth anymore that made up the circular thing that holds the CD in place--those things that broke so easily and often 10 years ago and left you with a screwed up digipak that no longer held the CD properly--the improved design still feels vulnerable. Much more durable, for sure, but still susceptible to being broken and to manufacturing flaws like any other piece of plastic. A sleeve that the disc just slides into is better. Not much can happen--in terms of hurting their functionality--to those that you can't fix with scotch tape.
Some complain of scratches, but I don't have this experience. My Frank Black Francis discs that I bought three years ago, played often, and never transplanted to a jewel case still look fine. |
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2007 : 05:44:00
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2007 : 22:27:18
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Originally posted by kfs
I really like the handwritten lyrics!
Maybe you could read them to me, kfs. FB's writing kills my eyes. Still, I'm grateful he included them. It's my silly fantasy that he did it because I made a post on here, begging him to do so.
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quadrophenic
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/28/2007 : 07:07:50
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Well...any time I get a CD in this kind of packaging, I copy it to a CD-R and keep the CD-R in a jewel case, and put the original on my shelf. I got tired of rebuying CDs that got scratched up from sliding in and out of the cardboard.
These sleeves are NOT more durable than digipaks... As far as paper-quality, they're pretty much the same...but they do LESS to protect your disc. The "scratch" problem is the most obvious... But if you're the type of person who occasionally ends up with a CD on the floor of their house or car (in my case, the latter), these cases are virtually worthless when it comes to keeping the CD--how should I say it--unbroken. Someone gets into your car and before you can say "Hey grab that CD off the floor before you..." It's "CRUNCH" and you've lost a CD. (It's happened to me at least three times.) The digipaks, with their plastic--even if the teeth are gone--at least provide a little support, and any crunching you hear is likely just the plastic and not your music.
Of course, personally, I prefer the jewel-cases. Best protection you can get for your CD, and I don't know why the current fashion is to avoid them...
I really dig the BlueFinger art. I just wish it'd been in a jewel case. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 17:31:27
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Originally posted by quadrophenic
Of course, personally, I prefer the jewel-cases. Best protection you can get for your CD, and I don't know why the current fashion is to avoid them...
Some labels avoid jewel cases for environmental reasons.
Sony/BMG have adopted a no-jewel case policy for their CDs for that reason. |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 18:03:28
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I got mine a couple days after it came out, but I actually haven't listened to it. I hung it up on the wall next the rest of my music collection, which I have also never listened to. I don't even own a stereo, but I do have some lovely track lighting in my den.
I love this part... Yeah, we did it! |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 07:25:34
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Jewel cases look a lot better on the shelf, but they DO break quite easily.
As for Bluefinger in particular, you'd think an album inspired by a painter would have more visual art. The handwritten lyrics are cool, though.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 09:37:25
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 14:05:50
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I prefer digipaks. Best of both worlds. I'd like to get some blank ones and get friends to design covers for me (ones that can draw)
Gatefold cardboard like FBF, 93-03 and Bluefinger aren't safe and jewel cases are just cheap and nasty.
Shame that Brood artwork is missing but anyway it's a nice touch that Bluefinger is a family affair.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 14:57:00
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what is the cost differential between jewel cases and digipaks and gatefolds? it would seem digis are the most expensive because you have to print/fold/assemble including glue? it's not like you could get a blank digipak and run it through a printer, ot could you? gatefolds seem cheapest, however, you get the least amount of information. i like jewel case inserts with multi pages. a cd single in a full jewel case with only a single piece of 2-sided paper seems a waste. ie. hang on to your ego. i tried to get the digi edition for this reason, oh well....
The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 23:16:07
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| This question--the question of the financial burden of CD packaging--came up on the Matador Records forum awhile back and someone from the label responded that digipak packaging is more expensive than jewel case packaging. If you think about it, most seriously low-budget record releases are in jewel cases. It's mostly major labels and large independents (like a Matador) who issue many CDs in digipaks. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2007 : 08:39:17
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Originally posted by trobrianders
I prefer digipaks. Best of both worlds. I'd like to get some blank ones and get friends to design covers for me (ones that can draw)
Gatefold cardboard like FBF, 93-03 and Bluefinger aren't safe and jewel cases are just cheap and nasty.
Shame that Brood artwork is missing but anyway it's a nice touch that Bluefinger is a family affair.
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Ed is the hoo hoo
where can you get those?
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Tiny Team Concerts
- FB Fan -
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2007 : 14:12:38
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You can order blank white Digipaks from www.discmakers.com.
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Tiny Team Concerts
"Good music for nice people" |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 12:39:15
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you need to order at least 200, that's a bit too much for me.
But thanks any way ttc! Do you know another site trobrianders?
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2007 : 13:29:51
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thanks!
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