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Valhalla
- FB Fan -
Germany
80 Posts |
 Posted - 07/07/2007 : 04:44:41
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Being a Frank Black fan since 1994, I recognized that there are 2 main types of fans:
1. "FB rock hard and scream" fan
Favourite albums: Bluefinger - especially songs
Tight Black Rubber, Threshold Apprehension, Captain Pasty
All Pixies albums, especially Surfer Rosa
This type of fan does like the new FB tour, with FB
performing very punky.
2. "FB Acoutic Guitar and Alternative Country fan"
Favourite albums: Black Letter Days, Show Me your Tears,
Dog In the Sand, Honeycomb.
Favourite Songs: Panamerican Highway, New House of The Pope, etc.
This type of fan loves to see FB play solo acoustic most.
This fan does not care about the Pixies too much.
As for me, I am definitely fan no. 2 and I hope to see a full lenght solo acoustic show very soon 
I konow, most of you will like all FB songs (me too, almost), but
it would be interesting to know what "kind of Frank" you enjoy
most ?
 "You take the moon, I'll take the sun"
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 04:58:37
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As boring as it may be for this thread, I like them both as well, the hard rocking punky and the mellow rootsy Frank.
But I discovered him through the Pixies and just love his weird energy and the scream, so if pressed I would go for Frank #1. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 05:45:25
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I don't think I can commit myself to any of those catergories, valhalla. The man has far too many strings to his bow that if i chose one side of the man, I know I'd seriously miss parts of the other sides. I think my taste would be better defined if I were to place these eras in order of preference..
..on a line graph. it would pretty much be a straight line.
of course, i would hazard a guess that most if not all appreciate the solo acoustic side of Frank's songs. |
Edited by - fbc on 07/08/2007 06:35:36 |
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Ernesto
- FB Fan -
Netherlands
99 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 05:47:40
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| absolutely nr.1 , but as long as it's not country i like nr.2 as well |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 06:02:43
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I like to match my FB music to my mood. I'm a mellow but emotional person, so I end up playing Honeycomb more than anything else. But I have moods for all of FB's music. I'm still trying to figure out which mood this new behavior is going to fit:
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
Edited by - coastline on 07/07/2007 06:03:08 |
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Nova
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 07:24:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Valhalla
Being a Frank Black fan since 1994, I recognized that there are 2 main types of fans:
1. "FB rock hard and scream" fan
Favourite albums: Bluefinger - especially songs
Tight Black Rubber, Threshold Apprehension, Captain Pasty
All Pixies albums, especially Surfer Rosa
This type of fan does like the new FB tour, with FB
performing very punky.
2. "FB Acoutic Guitar and Alternative Country fan"
Favourite albums: Black Letter Days, Show Me your Tears,
Dog In the Sand, Honeycomb.
Favourite Songs: Panamerican Highway, New House of The Pope, etc.
This type of fan loves to see FB play solo acoustic most.
This fan does not care about the Pixies too much.
As for me, I am definitely fan no. 2 and I hope to see a full lenght solo acoustic show very soon
I konow, most of you will like all FB songs (me too, almost), but
it would be interesting to know what "kind of Frank" you enjoy
most ?
"You take the moon, I'll take the sun"
WHAT ? Both of course. As I like both parts of "Los Angeles".
If you like crazy screaming punk AND mellow country pop (and a lot of other styles) FB is the man.
If you like just one of these categories you have plenty of choice. So much artists are "one dimensioned". |
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 07:51:32
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Originally posted by coastline
I like to match my FB music to my mood. I'm a mellow but emotional person, so I end up playing Honeycomb more than anything else. But I have moods for all of FB's music. I'm still trying to figure out which mood this new behavior is going to fit:
LOL
"YER SNARE IS TURNED OFF! LOOK!"
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/WKtheband = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2462 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 07:59:07
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I like it all!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 10:22:27
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Haha, another funny/cool pic!
 "Aw yeah, that's the good stuff!" |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 10:29:03
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Yeah, FB is cheating on the floor with the drumset. I wonder what he'll hump next.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 11:33:20
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Both for me though I defintely choose solo acoustic above all other but that don't necessarily mean gentle strumming either.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 11:49:25
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Anything but the Nashville laidback stuff.....
I got some heaven in my head
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 13:44:47
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Originally posted by kathryn
Anything but the Nashville laidback stuff.....
I got some heaven in my head
Even that stuff is good when solo and freed from Tiven and the Nashville cats. |
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MyVoxInYrPrison
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/07/2007 : 14:05:57
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| Acoustic Frank or Punky Frank? I guess I "go both ways". The live version of "Burnt Out Rock 'N' Roll" covers both styles IMHO |
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 14:36:33
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How can anyone choose?
I guess I agree with coasty about the mood thing, but i'm sorta leaning towards no. 2.
Selkie Bride is my favoritest song ever, but i'd rather see one of the recent shows than an acoustic show cos it seems more fun. i dunno, i can never decide anything.
But not really. |
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cptnpasty
- FB Fan -
Spain
161 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 17:08:31
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 18:35:16
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I don't really agree with the choices given to us, vahalla. They are definately two types of FB songs, but you could come up with more: songs about people, ufo, road tripping, geography, etc. I started out as a huge pixies fan around 93-94, but something happened around DITS that made me an FB fan first and foremost. I witnessed a solo accustic show last summer and have seem him with the C's twice before. All three shows were awesome in different ways. I think a solo show is the epitimy of the FB experience. I'm trying not to listen to Bluefinger all that much until actual release, but did skank a copy in case it turns out to be an alt version. Favorite songs: Highway to Lowdown, Man of Constant Sorrow, Brick is Red, Western Star, Remake (live w/ nashville player). There are probably others depending on the day.
7/27/99 9:30 Club DC
6/18/00 Fletcher's Baltimore
8/14/06 Chameleon Club Lancaster, PA |
Edited by - Adam on 07/07/2007 18:36:58 |
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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =
Thailand
313 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 21:10:32
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I think category 1 should be re-worded to be to "FB rock hard and scream mainly for Pixies fans and the fans of the first two FB solo albums".
If that’s the case then I am a Category 1 chap.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 22:19:16
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As I read the description of #1, I thought, "Yeah!! That's Me!!"
TAME! DEAD!! I adore Surfer Rosa and Bluefinger ROCKS!
THEN...
I read the description of #2. I always say Black Letter Days is my favorite FB album. I couldn't live without DITS, Honeycomb, Pan American Hwy, or New House of the Pope.
I simply cannot commit to either of the two.
It's all Frank and it's all GREAT!!!
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moonruler
- FB Fan -
USA
209 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 22:41:40
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i suggest a third type of frankophile: the eclectic motherfucker who likes it all.
not every song, necessarily, but every genre that he covers.
and i would also like to give a shout out to the much maligned JT. not that you need my advice, but, please, keep on rocking. |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 23:47:55
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 01:50:38
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The third.
I've been surprised at how many people became FB fans before even hearing the Pixies. Maybe half of this forum's members? The eclecticism of FB has to be one of the appealing qualities of being a fan. You never know what you're going to get, but at the least you know it's not going to flat out suck, even if it's not right up your alley.
Put this way, I've been to as many FB/Pixies shows as there are FB/Pixies albums, and there are maybe 2 out of both the albums and shows that I didn't completely enjoy in some way. I love the rock band, the mellow band, the acoustic...I think it's all great. I'm really looking forward to seeing the new setup with him as a front-man and not playing guitar. I don't think anyone saw that coming!
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Edited by - Jefrey on 07/08/2007 01:51:07 |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 05:53:07
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Originally posted by frnck blck
it is difficult to explain, but i do feel a strong urge to remove the guitar from my shoulder for the moment. it's just something i feel. i love to play the guitar, but at the same time it is a barrier and i need to feel the barrier removed. i need to feel the songs on a deeper level. i need to concentrate on something that i cannot identify just yet. i have known that i needed to try this for a long time, and so here i am without a guitar.
I never saw it coming either but the way FB's explained why he's doing it is irresistable. Coastline, perhaps after this we'll think of him as more frontman than anything else?
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 06:15:57
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You mean a frontman like Herman Brood, trobrianders? Maybe, at least until the next phase comes along. What I've been wondering lately is how he manages to go through all these phases of his career without a single one of them seeming phony. Remember when Garth Brooks -- who was phony to begin with, I realize -- did that weird Chris Gaines thing, where he tried to be a rocker? Phony, phony, phony. And when Liz Phair tries to be a teeny-bopper idol? The kids love her now, but it's phony. FB takes on new things -- new identities, even -- without for a second seeming phony about it. I guess maybe the difference is that he obviously isn't doing it to make a buck; he seems to be following his muse. Whatever it is, I've learned to not get comfortable with any of his phases. Unlike a lot of fans, I loved the Nashville phase, and I didn't want it to end so quickly, but I also knew he couldn't just settle into that for the rest of his career. That wouldn't make any sense after the career he's had. So what phase is he in now, anyhow? Is it punk? Is it just plain rock? Is it disco?
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 06:37:11
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In a few years time there will be two types of fans:
FB avec guitar
FB sans guitar |
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1851 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 06:40:22
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I love it all. A healthy mix of 1 and 2
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 07:23:13
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I won't recognise myself if I strt prefering him sans guitar. Oh what the heck, I'm not second guessing his muse.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 07:49:33
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Instead of working out tabs, all you guitar worshippers will have to switch to humping drumsets and stage floors. Don't forget to wear dress shoes with no socks.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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houstonguthrie
- FB Fan -
187 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 09:09:09
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Originally posted by coastline
You mean a frontman like Herman Brood, trobrianders? Maybe, at least until the next phase comes along. What I've been wondering lately is how he manages to go through all these phases of his career without a single one of them seeming phony. Remember when Garth Brooks -- who was phony to begin with, I realize -- did that weird Chris Gaines thing, where he tried to be a rocker? Phony, phony, phony. And when Liz Phair tries to be a teeny-bopper idol? The kids love her now, but it's phony. FB takes on new things -- new identities, even -- without for a second seeming phony about it. I guess maybe the difference is that he obviously isn't doing it to make a buck; he seems to be following his muse. Whatever it is, I've learned to not get comfortable with any of his phases. Unlike a lot of fans, I loved the Nashville phase, and I didn't want it to end so quickly, but I also knew he couldn't just settle into that for the rest of his career. That wouldn't make any sense after the career he's had. So what phase is he in now, anyhow? Is it punk? Is it just plain rock? Is it disco?
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
You hit on my sentiments exactly and mentioned a couple things that I've been thinking of just recently. The Chris Gaines thing was hiLARious!!! I never did like Garth Brooks - watching him jump the shark like that was just too funny. me and my girlfriend were remembering that and laughing about it just a few days ago so funny you'd mention that. And Liz Phair too - what a giant dissapointment that was when she became a pop tart. I used to love her!!! I was totally let down when she took her new direction.
I've never detected one ounce of pretentiousness or phoniness in Frank's music or performances. That's a huge part of his draw for me. I don't think we ever have to worry about him going Liz Phair on us.
Frank is like Dylan in his ability to mix things up and keep himself interested without sacrificing anything and always staying true to himself. Except I'd say that when Dylan was in approx the same point of his career that Frank is in now - he'd already turned out some stinkers. Sure there are some tunes that I don't like as much as some others - but overall I think Frank has yet to make a mistake. That's just my opinion.
I was a little skeptical when I heard Frank was playing without his guitar but after seeing the clips from these shows - I just say "kudos to you Frank - touche!!" Do whatever it is you feel you need to do man - just keep that good music coming!!! |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 10:56:30
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| i think there should be a 3rd category for Frank fans who get full-back tattoos (of Frank drinking diet coke) |
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moonruler
- FB Fan -
USA
209 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 11:48:37
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| that is the best idea for a tattoo i have ever heard. perhaps there should be a Frank Black full back tattoo club. don't think i will be joining, though. unless maybe it was a Frank Black full back henna tattoo club. that is a little more up my alley. |
Edited by - moonruler on 07/08/2007 11:49:31 |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 13:33:32
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Now I think about it it's hard to see any forum members sliding simply into one of two types. But the point about phases of FB's career is something I hadn't really thought about before. Normally you think 'well that's just Charles, it's cool', or FB or whatever. Someone once posted that FB, Nick Cave and Tom Waits were their holy trinity and I replied 'See you in church'. They're all like that, they know who they are, what they're about, so why would they ever come off as phony or make a dud album.
Liz Phair's still cool in my book. I think she's still having the last laugh but that's another thread.
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MyVoxInYrPrison
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/08/2007 : 16:41:03
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Originally posted by coastline
"Garth Brooks -- who was phony to begin with, I realize -- did that weird Chris Gaines thing, where he tried to be a rocker? Phony, phony, phony."
Why do you think Garth Brooks is phony? |
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MyVoxInYrPrison
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/08/2007 : 17:04:55
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Originally posted by trobrianders
\ Someone once posted that FB, Nick Cave and Tom Waits were their holy trinity and I replied 'See you in church'. They're all like that, they know who they are, what they're about, so why would they ever come off as phony or make a dud album.
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I think there are two types of music fans, or rather two ways of listening to music. You can listen to music subjectively or completely |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2007 : 17:11:31
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quote:
Originally posted by MyVoxInYrPrison
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Originally posted by coastline
"Garth Brooks -- who was phony to begin with, I realize -- did that weird Chris Gaines thing, where he tried to be a rocker? Phony, phony, phony."
Why do you think Garth Brooks is phony?
If you have to ask ...
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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