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Juri
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 Posted - 03/03/2007 : 18:17:08
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Originally posted by trobrianders
This thread's thrown out some fine names I hadn't heard of but I gotta say I'm surprised Nick Cave went by with hardly a mention. Is it that no one's listening or do you guys really not rate him?
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Stuart
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Posted - 03/03/2007 : 19:27:17
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Nick Cave is great... I have only heard Abbatoir Blues and Lyre of Orpheus, that's why he is not in my list. Those two albums, particularly AB are great!
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2007 : 20:37:12
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 14:13:05
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Originally posted by danjersey
hey if you like nick cave read AND THE ASS SAW THE ANGEL
Read it nearly 20 years ago. And then some since. Man it really wigs out in Doghead. Oh God I petition thee...
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moksha23x
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Posted - 03/05/2007 : 08:45:32
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/05/2007 : 11:24:00
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1 Paul Macca
2 Brian wilson
3 THE MAN
4 Ray davies
5 Randy Newman
6 Fagen/Becker
7 Lil stevie wonder
we're talking songwriting here, groudbreaking ideas, changes of paradigm : nick cave? thurston "piece of shite" moore? come on.
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999
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Posted - 03/05/2007 : 17:26:39
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| Dan Sartain, hes 23 years old and plays every instrument on his first album: Dan Sartain vs. the Serpientes. Great stuff check it out. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2007 : 23:07:12
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Originally posted by Teafer
1 Paul Macca
2 Brian wilson
3 THE MAN
4 Ray davies
5 Randy Newman
6 Fagen/Becker
7 Lil stevie wonder
we're talking songwriting here, groudbreaking ideas, changes of paradigm : nick cave? thurston "piece of shite" moore? come on.
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
Dunno about songwriting, but I saw Thurston Moore do a very entertaining solo just pulling on one string and taking the guitar cord in and out of socket. It was just a lot of noise, but the only other bands I've seen do feedback/noise better than that live were Flaming Lips and Love & Rockets. Not a huge Sonic Youth fan, but they certainly broke some ground. It just depends on if you like that ground or not.
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 10:18:11
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well yeah, soloing has nothing to do with songwriting. did lyle ever wrote one good song ? (everybody's got the beat? eh).
songwriting : writing songs. means structure of the songs/chord progression, means arrangement, means vocals dynamics.
sonic youth ? what ground did they ever break except beating world records of drugs abuse and being super obnoxious? these people never put out one good record. fucking overestimated junkies and zero songs.
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 10:32:55
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and the same goes for nick cave : zero songs(*), pretentious cunt. but he has a golden voice.
* : i remember this album of nick cave, w/ "papa won't leave you henry" on it. oh god, please kill him.
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cassandra is
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 11:01:53
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Originally posted by coastline
It's all subective...
certainly not so. beauty in art has nothing to do with "subjectivity" or whatever word one uses to signify their unability to understand aesthetics.
read hegel, my friend.
and kant wrote a little blurb about this, check it out !
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moksha23x
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 11:51:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Teafer
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
It's all subective...
certainly not so. beauty in art has nothing to do with "subjectivity" or whatever word one uses to signify their unability to understand aesthetics.
read hegel, my friend.
and kant wrote a little blurb about this, check it out !
Exactly my point when I pointed out (in the "International Songwriting Competition" post) to Coastline that FBF was going to Judge. I think the competition chose 'succesful songwriters' as judges because they have ability to "understand [the] aesthetics" of songwriting. Coastline disagreed ("its not about being #1, moksha").........I gave up because the argument is somewhat subjective |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 11:54:14
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Remember, moksha, coastline is full of shit. He admitted so in that same thread.
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trobrianders
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Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 13:24:40
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Originally posted by Teafer
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
It's all subective...
certainly not so. beauty in art has nothing to do with "subjectivity" or whatever word one uses to signify their unability to understand aesthetics.
read hegel, my friend.
and kant wrote a little blurb about this, check it out !
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
yawn
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Edited by - trobrianders on 03/06/2007 13:59:04 |
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moksha23x
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245 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2007 : 15:01:15
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quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders
quote:
Originally posted by Teafer
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
It's all subective...
certainly not so. beauty in art has nothing to do with "subjectivity" or whatever word one uses to signify their unability to understand aesthetics.
read hegel, my friend.
and kant wrote a little blurb about this, check it out !
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
yawn
That would be a subjective yawn..... |
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 15:15:39
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yawn
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if you are tired, why don't you just go to sleep...
from experience, people claiming to be bored are just... oh well fuck it. yawn all you want at things you don't get, if this is your way.
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 15:20:18
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didn't mean that aggressive tone. please take no offence.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/06/2007 : 16:58:15
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Originally posted by Teafer
well yeah, soloing has nothing to do with songwriting. did lyle ever wrote one good song ? (everybody's got the beat? eh).
So far as I know, Duane Allman has all of one half of one songwriting credit to his name, but for all the writing chops of brother Gregg and Dicky Betts, the reason the Allman Brothers Band is esteemed today is largely due to Duane. And not just for the soulful tone but also for the songs he composed within songs, often simply as he went, there at one gig or another. Virtuosos don't get enough credit. A lot but not enough.
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/07/2007 : 08:08:43
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Originally posted by Erebus
Virtuosos don't get enough credit. A lot but not enough.
so true. lyle didn't get any credits, still, TOTY would have quite an inferior album without him.
me, coming from punk rock (buzzcocks, wire, pixies), i always used to vomit virtuosos cause ya know music should be done by anybody, that kind of shite. and then i heard lyle and thought "virtuosos... they're cool".
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 11:51:53
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Originally posted by Teafer
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yawn
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if you are tired, why don't you just go to sleep...
from experience, people claiming to be bored are just... oh well fuck it. yawn all you want at things you don't get, if this is your way.
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
I was sleeping just fine and then this crash bang wallop... Truth is I don't mind. Rather machete wounds than safe playing. But you protest too much. No one trusts that. I just want your respect - ha ha. Easy does it say some but alas easy has never done it. One guitar should be enough for anybody. See.
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Edited by - trobrianders on 03/07/2007 12:06:43 |
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:03:22
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what is this supposed to mean ?
"One guitar should be enough for anybody." |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 18:21:17
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Originally posted by Teafer
what is this supposed to mean ?
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
Nada. Your tone. Ask around. I spewed. Storm's passed. What new?
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Edited by - trobrianders on 03/07/2007 18:23:12 |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 18:40:56
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What does any of this have to do with Frank Black? Move on, boys and girls.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/07/2007 : 18:55:05
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Originally posted by coastline
What does any of this have to do with Frank Black? Move on, boys and girls.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
Coastline, my touchstone. Got a new one for you. How about Diane Warren? Everything Frank's not including hugely sucessful. I made it. I'm back on-topic.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 03/07/2007 : 19:27:39
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| I am a litte bit surprised that we could find so many artists "as good as Frank" in my book, he's the tops. I have respect for many of the artists listed here...but I don't think they compare. |
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Teafer
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 15:23:18
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Originally posted by Daisy Girl
I am a litte bit surprised that we could find so many artists "as good as Frank" in my book, he's the tops. I have respect for many of the artists listed here...but I don't think they compare.
fine.
let me suggest a list of prerequisites for the new members to agree on or otherwise they re outta here :
1. FB is always right
2. FB cannot be wrong
3. In case of an issue, see points 1 & 2
4. In consequence, there should be absolutely nothing else than pure enthusiasm about what the man does, e.g. no critique whatsoever, no skecpticism and above all there should be no question that he's the the greatest singer/songwriter/poet/cook/etc... ever.
i think this is a minimum and should make the discussion so much more interesting. maybe i'll move to albania too.
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2007 : 16:15:10
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| I am new here, but here is my 2 cents worth on this subject. I am a fan of all kinds of music. I only began listening to FB couple weeks ago when my good friend got me hooked and i cant wait to get another fix. FB is the Best everything! I don't even listen to anything else anymore. Everything else seems um...well i cant think of the best word right now, but you all probably understand what I mean. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 16:31:07
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Originally posted by Teafer
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
I am a litte bit surprised that we could find so many artists "as good as Frank" in my book, he's the tops. I have respect for many of the artists listed here...but I don't think they compare.
fine.
let me suggest a list of prerequisites for the new members to agree on or otherwise they re outta here :
1. FB is always right
2. FB cannot be wrong
3. In case of an issue, see points 1 & 2
4. In consequence, there should be absolutely nothing else than pure enthusiasm about what the man does, e.g. no critique whatsoever, no skecpticism and above all there should be no question that he's the the greatest singer/songwriter/poet/cook/etc... ever.
i think this is a minimum and should make the discussion so much more interesting. maybe i'll move to albania too.
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
Teafer, have fun in Albania, I hear it's especially nice this time of year. If you pass by Kazakhstan, say hi to Borat for me. 
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2007 : 19:52:10
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 13:36:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Teafer
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
I am a litte bit surprised that we could find so many artists "as good as Frank" in my book, he's the tops. I have respect for many of the artists listed here...but I don't think they compare.
fine.
let me suggest a list of prerequisites for the new members to agree on or otherwise they re outta here :
1. FB is always right
2. FB cannot be wrong
3. In case of an issue, see points 1 & 2
4. In consequence, there should be absolutely nothing else than pure enthusiasm about what the man does, e.g. no critique whatsoever, no skecpticism and above all there should be no question that he's the the greatest singer/songwriter/poet/cook/etc... ever.
i think this is a minimum and should make the discussion so much more interesting. maybe i'll move to albania too.
Maybe you should start by moving out of this forum? Just an idea I had.
Denis
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 13:37:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Teafer
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
I am a litte bit surprised that we could find so many artists "as good as Frank" in my book, he's the tops. I have respect for many of the artists listed here...but I don't think they compare.
fine.
let me suggest a list of prerequisites for the new members to agree on or otherwise they re outta here :
1. FB is always right
2. FB cannot be wrong
3. In case of an issue, see points 1 & 2
4. In consequence, there should be absolutely nothing else than pure enthusiasm about what the man does, e.g. no critique whatsoever, no skecpticism and above all there should be no question that he's the the greatest singer/songwriter/poet/cook/etc... ever.
i think this is a minimum and should make the discussion so much more interesting. maybe i'll move to albania too.
"One guitar should be enough for anybody."
You wouldn't last a day in Albania. Stick with us pussies softies.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2007 : 13:42:25
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Can't see I've seen that word on this forum before.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 13:48:37
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Originally posted by coastline
Can't see I've seen that word on this forum before.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. Duly edited.
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Edited by - trobrianders on 03/09/2007 13:49:44 |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 13:49:21
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The line was funnier with "pussies" though.
Denis
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Other songwriters as good as Frank
