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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  13:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so i just started reading this while on holidays and loving it! got about 50 pages left. i've read that a handful of people on here think it's crap. i know it's a work of fiction but it really is interesting. i know very little about art so it has totally peaked my interest. i never realized da vinci was such a genious. i really like the anagrams- not sure if this is total bs or if there are actual legit theories on this stuff (the part where they were explaining the mona lisa mystery for eg). reminded me a bit of frank in a way. underlying meanings, really intelligent art, pealing away the layers... i wonder what frank's wife violet thinks of the book as she used to be a curator. there was a museum curator sitting at our table at a wedding last night and she absolutely loved the book. i guess the publicity is great for all the museums but i've been really surprised how much i like the book.


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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  14:52:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah! I'm surprised that someone actually liked it.

It didn't work for me at all.


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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  14:58:42  Show Profile  Click to see a guy in a rover's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think its a load of horse shit. And Its not that I look down my nose at it because its intellectual/trendy to do so, Its just that a dog with a fountain pen could have written a better book. Seriously, Dan Brown can barely even construct a sentence, never mind write a novel.

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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  19:21:57  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i liked his other ones much better than da vinci code.
the movie kinda sux too.



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2006 :  19:55:31  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


Aside from Dan Brown's style ( trying too hard to be educational, general cornyness ), TDC is very well written.

He takes an interesting idea, builds a well-constructed story around it, and tells the story in a clear, direct way.

The chapters are short ( I read somewhere he said he writes short chapters- some 3 or 4 pages long- because he has a short attention span ). But it isn't just the chapter length that makes it such a quick read; he writes in a way that holds the reader's attention.

There are plenty of writers who could learn a lot from Brown's writing style ( as much as I like him and his non-fiction, Tom Wolfe's last two novels had whole chapters that were practically unreadable ).

For an example of truely bad writing, try "Left Behind".

I agree with benji- I liked "Demons & Angels" much more than TDC.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  01:14:30  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Enjoyed all of Brown's books, though to varying degrees. I thought there was a nice weaving of fact, fiction, and myth and this is why, at least for me, the books sell. I don't care if the dialogue seems bad. I don't go to action movies expecting moving/tear-jerking scenes. I don't go to comedy expecting serious social commentary. And so forth. If it happens to include some of those things, great, but you have to look at this book as what it is first, and then realize that all the art/historical/mythological tie-ins are gravy and what make an average-to-poor book in the mystery/thriller line into something great.




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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  01:44:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not to go too far off topic, but what's with tom hanks' hair in the movie adaptation? so off-putting.

look, it's hip to be snooty about "lowbrow" books, to trash what "the common people" are reading. what matters is your own subjective experience. if you liked a book, good for you and who cares if there's a backlash?


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  05:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it hip to be snooty about the Mr Men books? 'Cos I love 'em.


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  05:59:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought the first 100 pages of The Da Vinci Code were genius -- lots of clever stuff in there. And then it turned into a Hollywood-style chase scene for the rest of the book. I read another of Brown's books, and finally realized he's not as serious as he tried to make those first 100 pages of DVC. Once you realize it's just page-turning pulp, his stuff is quite entertaining.

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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  10:20:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For pure entertainment value, DVC was excellent. I can't blame Dan Brown for coming up with such a brilliant idea, researching the material well enough to find an angle, presenting it in a way that the public believes it is fact, and writing in a cinematic way that keeps everyone hooked. Furthermore, the material left so many questions that many people have done their own research to find out about the truth. I can't remember seeing as many follow up books, lectures, church groups devoted to discussing this book.



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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  10:58:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Which in itself is a great thing for literacy and reading everywhere. Much like Harry Potter.


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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  11:13:22  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

I think the book is mediocre at best (much like Harry Potter) and when is it ever a good thing that the masses aspire to mediocrity? Read the Da Vinci code, listen to coldplay, eat vanilla ice-cream. Boring and depressing.
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  11:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
Read the Da Vinci code, listen to coldplay, eat vanilla ice-cream.



have a slice of bellpepepr mushroom pizza. maybe put on a Wilco record.

watch a little Sex and the City





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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  11:43:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Followed by Shaun Of The Dead.


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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  11:47:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oooooooooooooh.

uh oh. homers is in trouble





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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  11:55:34  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Followed by Shaun Of The Dead.



I think that might not be a case of aspiring towards mediocrity and more a case of punching above your weight.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  12:08:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chavs and scallies love that film. Enough said.


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  12:10:05  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Chavs and scallies love that film. Enough said.



Are you the exception to the rule? Or did you make the rule up, hmm?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  12:16:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stand up when you're talking to me.


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  12:30:10  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Was that meant to be a short joke?
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1462 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  12:56:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder

For pure entertainment value, DVC was excellent. I can't blame Dan Brown for coming up with such a brilliant idea, researching the material well enough to find an angle, presenting it in a way that the public believes it is fact, and writing in a cinematic way that keeps everyone hooked. Furthermore, the material left so many questions that many people have done their own research to find out about the truth. I can't remember seeing as many follow up books, lectures, church groups devoted to discussing this book.



Mathematics moves at such a crawl




well said!

the 2nd half of the book is typical hollywood type stuff but the first half really raises some great questions. sure the ideas have probably been raised before but it really ties together quit nicely and makes for an entertaining read. i went to a catholic church growing up and pretty much only got one side of the story. that whole female suppression thing in the catholic church always bothered me. why can't females become priests. why can't priests get married. ya, they're married to the church...seems unnatural to live a life of celibacy. but to each his own.


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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1462 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  12:58:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

not to go too far off topic, but what's with tom hanks' hair in the movie adaptation? so off-putting.


gump is one cool mofo.



bachelor party rules.


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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  14:07:35  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hated every single bit of that book. Hell, I hated the FIRST line of the book (but that's due to the appalling translation which only made things worse). But I don't mind if people like it. Mrs Denis enjoyed it quite a lot. I'm much more stunned by the fact that some people didn't like Shaun of the Dead. Now that is something hard to believe.


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  14:39:07  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Incidentally, I _LOVE_ what Audrey is wearing there. Simple, elegant, hot.


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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  14:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In that picture Tom Hanks looks like he's imagining how he'll spend the money he made from the movie.

*A yacht? Yeah a yacht. Or, two yachts? Yeah, two yachts.*


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  14:49:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'll never understand how people think she's hot (sorry whore).. every time i see a picture of her it brings back unpleasant memories of the ultra-overrated AMELIE and all those annoying, cutsey moments when she looks directly at the camera.








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Edited by - floop on 08/13/2006 14:49:43
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  16:10:04  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also love Amelie (sorry Floop).


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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  17:32:25  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


Yeah, Tom Hank's hair looks bad in the movie ( I haven't seen it ), but for a while he had it longer and it looked much better-
there was something I saw on TV, it might've been a tribute to Ron Howard or something and he played guitar & sang with Steve Martin, and they did a good job as I remember and his hair looked kinda cool.

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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  00:05:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Hot" isn't the word I use when I think of her.

I don't think she's actually very pretty, but love has strange ways.

Amèlie overrated! ha! You'll burn in hell for that.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  04:47:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

Was that meant to be a short joke?



Well it was just one sentence so yeah.


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  06:47:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

i'll never understand how people think she's hot (sorry whore).. every time i see a picture of her it brings back unpleasant memories of the ultra-overrated AMELIE and all those annoying, cutsey moments when she looks directly at the camera.




...But she's so cute!! I mean, look at those pupils....they're like big black marbles!


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  07:19:44  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, hot's probably not the word I should use either (though I did), but she is cute/pretty.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  18:03:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whoreatthedoor

love has strange ways.




it does, indeed it does.


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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =

USA
618 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  18:20:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If garden knomes are your thing.....
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 08/15/2006 :  09:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Traveling garden gnomes.



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