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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  13:22:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by darwin

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Originally posted by Erebus
A classic case may be the “N-word”, which was derived from "niger", which is Latin for black. I don’t know my history but I would guess that somewhere classically educated white people applied the term in a non-racist fashion


I think you're being charitable. My guess that way when the "N word" was being coined educated white people thought Africans weren't even the same species as themselves.


You're probably correct.


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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  13:32:10  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have a feeling that there are relatively more people from Pakistan in the UK and Europe at large, but I never had any idea that Paki was considered a derogatory term.

My not racist step dad would always use the term in/outside of the company of his Pakistani(?) acquaintences in Saudi Arabia. I grew up assuming that was The word that meant "someone from Pakistan."


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:21:21  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's used to describe anyone Asian, it's turned into a nasty insult. Brown skin - must be a paki. It's ridiculous, it's not even older folks who have the generation gap to blame. My friend who was born in Wales but her parents are from India has had it shouted at her. Not in my hearing I might add or I would have beaten them to within an inch of their worthless lives.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:26:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"This guy does the best Ali G impression... aiight. I can't do it but..."

"I don't..."

"Oh! Sorry, it's the other one..."

"The other... Paki?"

Tsk. "That's racist."


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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
431 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:49:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember when my friend came strolling into class one time quietly singing, "There was a man from Pakistan-" and the teacher just interrupted him right there and said, "If you're going to be racist you can get out."

He told me later that he didn't even know what he was going to sing for the second line.
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:51:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Two of my friends were hanging out in the park once. One has Pakistani parents, but he was born and raised in Ireland. He's a typical Irish fella and see's himself that way, as an Irishman (He even learned Gaelic in school, which is a pain in the balls people). The other guy is a lanky white dude.
Someone passing by yelled in their direction "Packie". The guy with Pakistani parents got pissed of and started to hurl abuse back at him. A short shouting match began between the two and after a while the passer-by walked away, As he did so he turned around to the two and said "See ya around man"

Turns out he was a friend of the lanky dude, who's nickname was Packie Bonner, the lanky Irish goalie.

True story.




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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  15:45:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Suicide_Samurai

I remember when my friend came strolling into class one time quietly singing, "There was a man from Pakistan-" and the teacher just interrupted him right there and said, "If you're going to be racist you can get out."

He told me later that he didn't even know what he was going to sing for the second line.


Sounds like it was the teacher who was prejudiced, in that it was he/she that "prejudged".

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jtjcp88
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  15:49:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

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Originally posted by jtjcp88

Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.

"Dance at my party."

I know a girl who's married to a Pakistani guy, and she refers to people as Pakis. She always follows it by saying, it's ok, I can say that because I'm banging one.

She's a classy bird.


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Lol. That's nuts. I eman my best friend is Pakistani and as a joke between the both of us I often call him Paki, but to think that would entitle me to call Asians Pakis is ludacris. Does the husband with what she does?

"Dance at my party."
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El Loco
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  16:15:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
off topic people, this is about nigs not pakis
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Carl
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Ireland
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  17:12:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sick of those damn honkies.


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El Loco
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  17:53:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
racism really is horrible. i just try to make light of it all. we're all the same color from the inside. well my heart is blacker than some
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
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Posted - 07/13/2006 :  18:00:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ali G:
"It is important never to forget where u all came from — becoz black, white, brown or pakistani we all come from de same place — de punani."


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 07/14/2006 :  01:25:16  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jtjcp88

quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

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Originally posted by jtjcp88

Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.

"Dance at my party."

I know a girl who's married to a Pakistani guy, and she refers to people as Pakis. She always follows it by saying, it's ok, I can say that because I'm banging one.

She's a classy bird.


I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid



Lol. That's nuts. I eman my best friend is Pakistani and as a joke between the both of us I often call him Paki, but to think that would entitle me to call Asians Pakis is ludacris. Does the husband with what she does?

"Dance at my party."

I think Mo actively encourages it, to be honest. I think usually its fairly clearcut if you're using this in a derogatory way, and to assume everyone'll jump to offence is not always true.


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jtjcp88
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Posted - 07/14/2006 :  03:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, yes obviously, you can tell from the tone and context in which it was said if its humurous or actually being used in a derogatory way. But still, I would feel very uncomfortable around this woman if she constantly used the word Paki.

"Dance at my party."
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