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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  12:24:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Bush-Sunglasses.mov

How dare anyone speak to me wearing sunglasses!!!!!!!



Wallsten (the reporter he tries to take to task) is legally blind.

That's our Bush.

Edited by - marcus4realius on 06/14/2006 12:54:03

ObfuscateByWill
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  12:50:57  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Complete link, please.

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Thanks.

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edbanky
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  13:09:30  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Man, only a total idiot who is pretty much Adolf Hitler would joke with a guy about his sunglasses in not-sunny weather. What an idiot! That Dubya, I tell ya!

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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  13:13:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The guy is blind. Did you read?

It would be as if he said to someone in a wheelchair "You look mighty comfortable there."


Oh yeah...he did that, so see Ed, your sarcasm doesn't fly.


Edited by - marcus4realius on 06/14/2006 13:15:24
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edbanky
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  13:19:51  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marcus4realius

The guy is blind. Did you read?




Aye. I read. 'Tis inconseqential. It ain't like the reporter had a hump on his back and Bush said "Hey man, are you from the Quasimodo Times?"

And FYI, he isn't blind according to the definition Joe Blow recognizes. I have a half-Chinese buddy who is "legally blind"; he can't drive a car or anything, because his eyelids screw with his peripheral vision.

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Erebus
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  13:49:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by edbanky

Man, only a total idiot who is pretty much Adolf Hitler would joke with a guy about his sunglasses in not-sunny weather. What an idiot! That Dubya, I tell ya!


I don't get the significance of this topic, so maybe I'm an idiot too, but I do know what to think about anybody who equates Bush with Hitler.

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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  13:54:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
About the same as anyone who equates Gore with Hitler.

It's stupid and it's just a "button pushing" statement.

Right? I thought you'd agree.
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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  13:56:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"The point of this post is not that Bush intentionally taunted a blind man, but that his insistence on clowning with the press is undignified and highly inappropriate"


Someone said it best before I could say it better.

Edited by - marcus4realius on 06/14/2006 13:57:04
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theonecontender
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  15:14:39  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can't find anywhere where this man is refered to as blind other than on that site. I think they're just making it up... good for them!
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  15:28:13  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Heh, yeah, I'm not terribly offended by this. Seems a rather blunt/stupid question to ask someone blind, but I neither know that he's blind nor does he seem to be offended.


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darwin
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  16:55:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theonecontender

I can't find anywhere where this man is refered to as blind other than on that site. I think they're just making it up... good for them!



"Turns out Wallsten is legally blind and wears the sunglasses due to a rare genetic disorder called Stargardt’s Disease. "

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002688185
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Carl
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  17:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, to be fair, he may not have known.

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PixieSteve
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  18:02:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so, it's still a gaffe. noel edmunds didn't know that kid was handicapped...


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Carl
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  18:28:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're right. Bush is an asshole after all! *sigh of relief* And everything's right with the world again!

By the way, does anyone remember that gaffe with the votes in Florida some years ago? ;)

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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  18:53:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

so, it's still a gaffe. noel edmunds didn't know that kid was handicapped...


FAST_MAN  RAIDER_MAN - June 19th



That was the point of me starting the thread. It was related to that thread...hence the same name.

I just felt I had to explain that to some of the slower members.
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Erebus
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  19:28:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't see it as a gaffe. If Bush didn't know the guy was blind, it was an honest mistake, not a gaffe, and certainly not insulting. If Bush did know he was blind, it was respectful, inclusive, good humor, and certainly not insulting. The "gaffe" is by those bloggers who think this is worthy of attention. Bush is having a good week and this is what you guys have got? That's "slow".

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ScottP
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  20:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just hope our friends from other parts of the world realize that there are very few American citizens who support George W. Bush's absolutely embarrassing representation of this great country and it's people.
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darwin
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  21:18:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the main point (and granted it's not a big deal) is that the "gaffe" is an outcome of Bush's pompous fratboy style. It's the kind of mistake I would expect an oversprivledged teen to make.

Do you really think blind people would find it funny to be told to take their glasses off (joke or no joke)?
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Erebus
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  21:59:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

I think the main point (and granted it's not a big deal) is that the "gaffe" is an outcome of Bush's pompous fratboy style. It's the kind of mistake I would expect an oversprivledged teen to make.

Do you really think blind people would find it funny to be told to take their glasses off (joke or no joke)?


I think this individual took it in the spirit with which it was offered, either mistakenly or, as I said, with inclusive good humor. It wasn't terribly funny in any case, but there was no harm in it, except in the eyes who will resort to anything to do harm to Bush.

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Erebus
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  22:19:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScottP

I just hope our friends from other parts of the world realize that there are very few American citizens who support George W. Bush's absolutely embarrassing representation of this great country and it's people.

Bush is still solidly supported by at least a third of the country, and there is every reason to believe the opposition is soft, much of it consisting of Republicans protesting the extent to which Bush has pandered on issues sacred to the Democrats. With due respect to our international Frank Black friends, given the security and social policies of most of the rest of the world, I think America might do better than be concerned about what the international community and the Democrats find embarrassing. I'll take Bush over anything the Dems have offered since Harry Truman or maybe Kennedy.


Edited by - Erebus on 06/14/2006 22:20:49
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edbanky
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  22:57:04  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by edbanky

Man, only a total idiot who is pretty much Adolf Hitler would joke with a guy about his sunglasses in not-sunny weather. What an idiot! That Dubya, I tell ya!


I don't get the significance of this topic, so maybe I'm an idiot too, but I do know what to think about anybody who equates Bush with Hitler.




Aw poop. I was trying to be ironic. I actually think it's goofy to latch onto something this benign. My point in equating GW with Hitler was supposed to be a comment on how hip it is to make fun of the guy (while simultanously declaring him a dangerous mastermind of conspiracy).

Erebus, I watch your responses in these situations and applaud your backbone. You see/tell it like it is; I am surprised you took my comments at face value.

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Erebus
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Posted - 06/14/2006 :  23:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry I missed that Ed. I had previously noted your signature and the link to townhall.com in your profile, and even considered the apparent contradiction before I replied. It's just that certain statements like GW=Adolph really get me going. It's like a crusade for me, at least at times. People can tell you I'm not the most subtle guy, either in terms of perception or reaction. Apologies. Thank you for your reply.

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darwin
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  00:06:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
Bush is still solidly supported by at least a third of the country


Wow! Is this the no spin zone? Bush has a SOLID 33% approval rating. I hope the Repulbicans get a SOLID 33% of the votes this November. And don't kid yourself that many people's dissatisfaction with Bush is soft.

quote:
I'll take Bush over anything the Dems have offered since Harry Truman or maybe Kennedy.



Is the that "notoriously incompetent Bush administration" that you referred to yesterday?
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lonely persuader
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  01:55:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marcus4realius

The guy is blind. Did you read?

It would be as if he said to someone in a wheelchair "You look mighty comfortable there."


Oh yeah...he did that, so see Ed, your sarcasm doesn't fly.





Not really. Sunglasses are used by people with fine vision to keep out the sunlight (dunno if u know this). That is actually their everyday use.

Wheel chairs are not used by people who can walk perfectly. I think therein lies the difference. I also think it very moronic when people take everything bush says outa context to make him sound stupid. In fact it only makes others look stupid for continuously being so petty.
I do agree that Bush is a complete idiot, but it is not shown particularly well in this clip.
Save the jokes for his proper fuck ups.
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lonely persuader
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  01:58:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who hold on there, I am arguing the same side as Erebus (I must quickly backtrack on all previous statements, might i get labelled as a right wing neo-con, I would then have to shoot my self)
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  05:08:34  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As far as I can judge, that's exactly what we Frenchies call a "gaffe" (which is a French word by the way).

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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  05:38:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolument, Froggie.
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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  05:41:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, I wouldn't even have started the topic if I knew there were Bush Ass Kissers here as I don't even want to hear there "outrage" and comments at all because I have heard them and they are all wrong.

It was a little dig whereas there are WAY BIGGER digs that could be taken.

If I knew the dittoheads would have a snit fit about it, I never would have made the post. Those people have some sort of damage.
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lonely persuader
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  06:14:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I said it just makes you look silly.

"Bush coughed. He's so stupid." He's stupid for other reason's dim-wit. It just goes to show, how stupid others are.
And it's not because people who commented otherwise are bush ass kissers (except for Erebus maybe). He's a dim-wit for his policy decisions. All you do is take the seriousness out of bush's blunders. Your doing his retractor's harm not good.
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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  06:20:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

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edbanky
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  07:32:01  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love how this denegrates to name-calling because two or three people made insightful comments about why it's so stupid to pounce on something so petty. Bush Ass Kissers? Actually, it was my bullshit detector going berserk that prompted my comments. Sorry, I'll have to disable it around your posts, apparently.

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marcus4realius
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  07:42:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I pounced???

You are seriously saying I pounced with that post?

Well, then I'll turn down my patented post pouncer so as not to freak out the babies.

I promise to be more sensitive to your tenderness, your highness.
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  07:49:34  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You guys are taking this way too seriously. I'm anything but a Bush lover, but this hardly seems offensive to me. Even so, if it's not a big deal, which is my stance, than why get worked up about it whichever side you're on?

Breathe.


"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
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edbanky
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  07:53:03  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No, you resorted to name-calling. The pouncing (on the story) was done by those to whom you linked. And considering it was on the Yahoo! homepage as of 2 minutes ago, it definitely was considered significant by some stretch. Gotta love your fallacious "false dilemma." (This guy takes exception to being called a Bush Ass-Kisser; he must think he's royalty)

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edbanky
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  07:54:19  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

You guys are taking this way too seriously. I'm anything but a Bush lover, but this hardly seems offensive to me. Even so, if it's not a big deal, which is my stance, than why get worked up about it whichever side you're on?

Breathe.


"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."


Yeah, I guess I can ease up. Time for a nap.

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Carolynanna
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Posted - 06/15/2006 :  08:53:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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