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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 04/27/2006 :  20:48:43  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


It's a topic we've had before, but it really is a classic. What do other drivers do that you hate.

My suggestions:

Drivers who are first in line at a traffic light ( especially those short green-arrow lights ). It turns green and they hesitate before starting and then they go through real slow- What do they care? They know they're gonna make it through.

People taking a left-hand turn who pull out and block the lane of cars coming from their left.

The classic: I don't know how people can block the left-hand passing lane on the highway. They must see the line of cars behind them that want to get by. Do they really not care? I would die of embarrassment if there was just one car behind me that wanted to go by. Even when people start passing them on the right they don't get it.

Picture it: You're in the left-hand lane going at a good speed, people are coming onto the highway and they're not yielding to the cars in the right-hand lane. So instead of speeding up or slowing down to deal with it, a car in the right-hand lane will simply cut directly in front of you, so that you have to slam on your brakes.

I don't go around doing kind deeds or waving people in ahead of me, but I am courteous, I always use my signals, I never cut people off, and I never get in other people's way or slow them down.

That's really all I expect from other drivers: Don't get in my way, you don't have to speed, just drive with a sense of purpose. Drive as if you've done it before.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14

BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2006 :  21:24:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My only real request of other drivers: BE PREDICTABLE
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
411 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2006 :  21:45:43  Show Profile  Visit Apesy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Turn signal use (or rather, lack of) is usually my biggest annoyance. Seriously, don't honk at me if you start turning left at an intersection while I'm turning right from the opposite side, because you didn't flip a stupid lever to indicate you were turning onto the same road as me; your non-action indicated that you were just going to go straight through.

That, and people making a turn who slam on the gas in order to make it out before you pass by, but then drive way under the speed limit. Especially bad if you're the only car coming and they can't just wait an extra five seconds.

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Edited by - Apesy on 04/27/2006 23:35:16
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5456 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2006 :  22:00:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

My only real request of other drivers: BE PREDICTABLE



I whole-heartedly agree, especially when I'm on my bike. I would prefer it people would just drive normally rather being courteous and altering their habits because I'm there on my bike. That just creates confusion. The exception is when on a road with not much shoulder and quick traffic, I do appreciate it when cars give me lots of space even moving over into the other lane.

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2006 :  22:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right on. One awkward situation that always seems to happen when I'm on my bike is the four-way stop sign. As a cyclist, you've got to go into motion before it's actually your turn so the next guy isn't waiting forever (plus you don't want to put your feet down if you've got toeclips or clipless pedals). But it seems like the guy who's supposed to go before me always seems to think I'm going to dart out into the intersection as quickly as a car and so he stops. Then I stop. Then, for about five anxious seconds, the whole damned system goes up in smoke.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2006 :  23:11:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i hate people who pull up to a stop light in the left lane. then after then light turns green then they signal that they're going left. and then you're stuck behind them until they can turn left. thanks for letting me know, asshole.




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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7446 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  00:43:20  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I third darwin's and BLT's opinions. It always amazes me how drivers seem to think cyclists won't pay attention to them. Hello!! You're driving a 1-ton big red metal box that smokes and stinks, of course I've noticed you and I know what speed you drive, so don't slow the fuck down or change lanes when I arrive.


Denis

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  02:44:55  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


I've never had a problem w/ a person on a bike- I just wish bikers weren't out there at all. In a perfect world, bike riders would have there own seperate roads that are nowhere near cars.

It's just not safe for bikers, the current situation w/ them so close to cars makes them too vunerable. I don't want to see the laws changed, I just wish people wouldn't ride bikes.

Or at least ride on the sidewalks instead.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  02:53:43  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

apesy, i'm amazed that you mention people pulling out in a rush and then going slow. that happens to me all the time- i'm driving, alone on the road, no one behind me, and someone ( usually a really old person ) will pull out quickly in front of me, and then do 20mph the rest of the way.

it must just be massachusetts drivers.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7446 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  03:13:41  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One bike = one car less. I fail to see what's bothering you.


Denis

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  07:30:17  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hate it when drivers moan about speed cameras. If you're not breaking the law, you won't get caught, so shut up.


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El Loco
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206 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  07:50:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Drivers on cellphones. They should be beaten severely
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7446 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  08:08:46  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love the bumper sticker that says "would you drive better with that cellphone up your ass?"
I learned yesterday that the fine for using a cellphone while driving is €35 in France. That's 5 times less than the fine for driving without your seatbelt. Which means being a danger to other people is apparently less immoral than being dangerous to yourself.


Denis

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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  08:17:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate drivers that do 40mph on roads with a 60mph limit, then carry on at 40mph when they go through a village (30mph limit). I also hate drivers who overtake on bends.


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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  08:24:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like someone said earlier; lack of turn signals. That really bugs. What, is it embarrasing or uncool to use your turn signal?

Side note: I don't think there is anything wrong with breaking a traffic law IF you are not endangering anyone else. If there's no one else nearby, run that fucking red light...roll through a stop...make a NO U-TURN u-turn...speed a little. But as stated, ONLY if there IS NO OTHER CAR WITHIN your sphere of outlaw. "Extra" But, as with any risk, don't bitch and moan if you get caught. Your excuses are your own.

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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  08:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

Like someone said earlier; lack of turn signals. That really bugs. What, is it embarrasing or uncool to use your turn signal?




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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  11:33:51  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
THe stupid one that's supposed to make my scanner work. No matter how many times I try, XP refuses to deal with the driver correctly. It's only 3 years old, but it's bound for the trash heap thanks to the lack of new drivers & microsofts crappy updates.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5456 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  12:24:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy



Or at least ride on the sidewalks instead.




In California, I believe, it's against the law to ride your bike on the sidewalk. Sidewalks are for people. Roads are for vehicles, and bikes have the same rights and laws as cars.

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  13:50:54  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I'm pretty sure bikes are prohibited from sidewalks here in Mass. too. I'm not complaining about people on bikes- I'm just saying it isn't safe for them on the roads. Yes they have the right to be there and they have the same rights as drivers- but all those rights aren't going to do them any good if they get hit by a truck and they're dead or crippled for life.

I don't ride a bike often, but when I do, it's always on the sidewalk- and I keep away from the walkers. I don't care about the bike/ sidewalk law- I'm too young and handsome to die. And my ass is too sexy to be in a wheelchair all day.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  13:55:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only problem I've had with bikes is on winding mountain roads in the middle of nowhere. One can pop over a rise and suddenly encounter them, with little time to react. Then again, if that really were such a big deal I would think one would read about them being killed all the time.
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  13:59:32  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I don't have a big problem with cellphone drivers ( no i don't own a cellphone ). I think people are just prejudiced against them, and I think people that you see doing stupid, inconsiderate things while they're on the phone, probably would've done those things anyway- some people are just assholes.

Actually, one thing I have seen a couple times that really bothers me is people pulling over to talk on their cellphone. The last two times it happened the person just suddenly braked and pulled off to the side, no turn signal, almost causing accidents with the people behind them who didn't know what was going on- the funny thing is, I'm sure they thought they were being safer. I bet they tell their friends later on "I'm very safe, I always pull over to talk on the phone".

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  14:10:05  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


On a similar note, with the bikers. In Massachusetts ( and most other states probably ) pedestrians have the right of way and there is a $100 fine for not stopping for people in a crosswalk.

So in a lot of towns ( especially Northampton and Amherst ) people just walk out in front of traffic, not caring at all about oncomming cars or how fast they're coming.

The law is the law and that's fine. But these people are so reckless- what's wrong with looking both ways and crossing when it's safe.

Sure if someone hits you in a crosswalk you'll be able to sue them for everything they have, but all the money in the world won't buy you a new spinal column or legs that work.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  14:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy



Sure if someone hits you in a crosswalk you'll be able to sue them for everything they have, but all the money in the world won't buy you a new spinal column or legs that work.




...unless Oscar Goldman and Dr. Rudy Wells are willing to fork out $6,000,000.00 to do something about it.



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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  15:58:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When someone cuts me off or does something stupid on the road, I often catch up with them to see if they're talking on a cellphone. Usually they are.

Also, I second floop's gripe about the fuckers who don't signal a left turn until you're behind them. Those people suck.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  16:13:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't stand those pesky drivers who pull up next to me and start shooting.

But seriously, I hate those pesky drivers who pull into the carpool lane, then go just as slow as the drivers in the other lanes. Why don't those drivers ever get shot at?

Hank the 8th was a duplicated man

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  16:41:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only shoot at drivers from my bike.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
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Posted - 04/28/2006 :  16:50:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
when people tailgate i like to slam on my breaks. or slow waaaaaaaaaay down. that's always fun




"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  18:31:44  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote


Yes, Transmarine, there are so many people who, on a two lane highway will pull into the passing lane and drive right alongside the cars in the slow lane. The cars in the slow lane will be going 65 and these people will want to pass them so they can go 67mph.

Also, if you're being tailgated 9 times out of ten it's your fault. if you drive correctly, no one's gonna follow you closely.

One thing that always cracks me up: someone goes around to pass a slow driver and the slow driver gets offended and speeds up to try to keep the other car from passing them.

I suspect that for a lot of people, like the ones who drive slow in the passing lane, it's all about control- they think that only they know how fast people should be driving. If they're going 70mph in the left hand lane and there's a line of cars behind them-they don't care, "All those other people shouldn't be in such a hurry. No one needs to be driving any faster than this." they think to themselves.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  19:38:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


KARL ROVE INDICATED (WHILE HALFWAY OUT OF HIS CAR).

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  20:45:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

when people tailgate i like to slam on my breaks. or slow waaaaaaaaaay down. that's always fun



I slow down so gradually that they probably don't think I'm trying to spite them. They just get annoyed and change lanes. At which point I speed up, of course. Mission accomplished.
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2813 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2006 :  21:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i walk alot and trains get me back and forth, when i drive it is epic for me and not in a good way. i once drove with attitude and ego now this ball has slowed me down and at sometimes 55mph is all can muster.
must drive slow now you go on in the pass.
so long
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  09:27:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

quote:
Originally posted by floop

when people tailgate i like to slam on my breaks. or slow waaaaaaaaaay down. that's always fun



I slow down so gradually that they probably don't think I'm trying to spite them. They just get annoyed and change lanes. At which point I speed up, of course. Mission accomplished.



that's when you speed up and cut them off, and then slow down again.

i have some bad driving karma floating out there




"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2006 :  01:34:13  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
South African drivers have been voted worst in the world on the BBC news site a while ago.

Speeding, tailgating, skipping traffic signs, going slow in the fast lane, overtaking in the slow lane, cellphone housewifes. Everyday.

My pet hate, the mini-bus taxi. The first busy intersection I have to cross every day has become a pick up and drop-off zone for these taxis. The taxi will casually pull up in the space in front of the cars waiting at the red light, once the light turns green you just have to sit and wait for the taxi to fill up with passengers before it drives off,letting you through.

Roadrage is commonplace, using the car horn or braking at tailgaters would just get you in touble.

wilhelm

Edited by - offerw on 04/30/2006 01:36:15
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2006 :  15:09:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

when people tailgate i like to slam on my breaks. or slow waaaaaaaaaay down. that's always fun




"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur




Floop, funny you should say that. In August (I think...maybe September) 2004, I was on my way back to beautiful Chino from seeing the Pixies play the Greek via the 60fwy, when some asshole started tailgaiting me. I was in the center lane, it was late, and there was maybe 4 other cars in sight. At first I thought I may be going too slow, but I was cruising 75mph...which, actually is pretty slow for 1am on a deserted California freeway. Whatever, I thought. He can just go around me...I wasn't gonna switch lanes for this moron. I was tempted, like you, to hit my breaks. Let 'em hit me. I'm insured. And I need a new car. But I kept my pace, and my cool. Finally, he sped up and pulled around me...AND IN FRONT OF ME. Okay, now I'm pissed. Then, he decides to take me to school and slow wayyyyyyyyy down, like you had mentioned. Sure. I'll play. My brother in the passenger seat was mortified. We got down to 5 miles an hour for 5 minutes on the freeway. I wasn't going to let up. He's not gonna win. I'll follow him at this rate all the way to my exit, or at least until a cop pulls us over. I was determined to win. In fact, a CHP did ride by...and didn't do a thing! He kept on going! So, anyway, the guy finally got pissed off and took off...I won! I FUCKIN' WON! FUCK YEAH!!! I WON!!! Anyhow, I'm wondering now, Floop, if it coulda been you?

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2006 :  15:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Transmarine, I had something like that happen but more Stephen King-like. I was on a deserted rural road and hugely pregnant (and listening to DITS, just to get Frank into every conversation, as I try to) and the guy in front of me would speed up, which was fine, I would keep my distance, but then he'd slow down abruptly and crawl at like 5 mph but speed up when I tried to pass and the whole time he's leaning out his side window and screaming at me. It was totally bizarre. Nothing that I could firgure about my driving warranted him being angry at me.

Of course a couple of years later, who should show up at a kiddie party with his child but Mr. Road Rage Man. Yeesh.



I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine

Edited by - kathryn on 05/02/2006 15:17:37
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2006 :  16:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you say anything to him? That is a weird story. I had a cop chase me for a couple miles once, pull me over (for no reason), and then take off...I would wait, thinking maybe he was going to come back, and then I kept driving...only to find him down the road. He would stop traffic, direct it to the side of the road, jump back on his cycle, and single me out. He shouted like a lunatic at me stuff I couldn't make out, let me go, then chase me down again! This went on for 10 minutes while I was on my way to work one day. I was horrified and confused. Finally, he just quit and flew off down the road.

I guess it's payback for the traffic stuff I did as a teenager. My friend lived on a hill overlooking a very busy street. We would climb down the side of the hill, place traffic cones we had gathered across all lanes, and watch the drivers go into a tizzy of terror. Oh, those were the days. We also would fill Christmas ornaments up with water and throw them at the traffic. It was terrible. Things got really bad when we got bb guns. Sometimes cops would spot us and try to get us, but there were so many houses on this hill they couldn't tell where the stuff was being launched/hurled/shot from, and we would camoflage ourselves. Hahahaha! One time we threw a homemade dummy down the hill and out into traffic! That was the best!

Speaking of homemade dummies, I'm off to start a new thread!

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