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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 08/29/2007 :  19:55:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dear jimmy,

im sure by now everybodys read my boring sob story in your infamous "love <3" thread, and i know i promised id tell her how i feel, and i know i didnt, and... what was i gonna say? o yea, i saw her yesterday and all she said was "hi" and then she was avoiding me. fuck, what was my question? that took me like 10 minutes to write and i forgot my question. sorry. ill get back to you.


jesus juan salvador! im boring!


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  19:55:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
um, yay page 4?


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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:05:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

I despise Tarantino, Oliver Stone and snakes, yet I loved Natural Born Killers. What gives?

Dear Kathryn: I'm not jimmy, and I don't play him on a website, but I thought I should point out that I feel the same way about this. That was a great movie. I bet it was all the Leonard Cohen songs that hooked you. Does he make you swoon.?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



I feel that Natural Born Killers sucked the big one. I had heard that Stone stole the story from an independent screenplay or film that was shelved. I'm not sure if this is the movie it was stolen from but "Love and a 45" is really, really good. It's very "Natural Born Killers" like except not sucky. Mazzy Star tunes throughout. Reverend Horton Heat cameo. Can't top it.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, tell us where you're at with that situation, mister biscuitman. If she's avoiding you, forget about her, I say. What does Jimmy say?


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:08:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

If she's avoiding you, forget about her

wish i could...


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:10:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm sure she'll forget about it and act like it never happened in a week. it's not like she hasn't pulled shit like this before.


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:14:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What's her name, biscuit?


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:14:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
um, why?


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:14:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like Coastie, I am not Jimmy but I must advise you to forget this woman. Seriously. Don't put up with mindfucking like that. You do not deserve the drama. There are plenty of nice, normal women who will consistently treat you well.

Back to you, jimmy. Sorry to take over.


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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:16:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no offense to jimmy, but you seem better at this, k. ever thought of starting an advice column?


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2007 :  20:18:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You hush now, mister biscuit! To paraphrase Ms. Carly Simon, "No one does it better than jimmy!"


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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2007 :  13:01:26  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I didn't watch all of Natural Born Killers and I don't remember much of what I did see.

I didn't like a lot of things about it, the look, the people in it, the story. I was turned off.

I always compare Silence of the Lambs and Seven. Both are the same type of movie- law enforcement people trying to catch a psycho before he kills again, but the two movies couldn't be any more diferent:
One shows smart, earnest people working with a sence of urgency to rescue a kidnapped woman, and even the villans show some signs of decency.
In the other, the cops joke about the murder victims, and the over-riding suggestion is that the victims deserved what happened to them.

So, I don't know. I can't really say why some people like certain movies and not others.

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2007 :  13:09:11  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Mr bdh, I don't know all the details about you and this girl; I remeber skimming the post from the other thread, but i'm too lazy to go looking it up now....sooooo, based on what I have to go on here, I take it you like this girl, you want to date her or whatever, she's not being receptive. I agree with kate up to a point- Yes you should only be with someone who treats you well. Its amazing how some couples treat each other when they claim to be in love.

But- you're not dating her. This is the courtship, right? So there are no rules. This is the only time it's alright to play games, it's flirting. It's like a mating dance. So I say, keep trying.

Let me paraphrase something Amy Sedaris ( you should really get that book )wrote:
"If there's a girl you like, find out what she likes. Find out her favorite drink and learn to make it. Then put a roofie in it."

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2007 :  13:39:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take my advice, the best thing to do is to never get over a woman. Let it burn you down inside. Let it play around in your head as you try to figure out her intentions. Let it make you bitter and useless. Turn on a cheesy 80’s love song and find yourself relating to it. Stay in your dead-end, well-paid, meaningless job, day in, day out and wonder if THIS IS YOUR LIFE. Come home everyday, wishing you had driven to the beach and slept in your car instead. Play your music loud, in a darkened room as you browse a pale brown forum.

Then,
Find a new woman to yearn for.
Begin again


/ " @ * ~ ¦ ¬ . , |

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gyaneshwar
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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  13:49:29  Show Profile  Visit gyaneshwar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's the best advice ever, Sean.

I felt like I was hearing a voiceover in a Danny Boyle film where instead of everyone being addicted to heroin they're addicted to chicks. Put on a pulsing New Order track in the background and read that shit out loud. You'll see what I mean.

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I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.

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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2007 :  14:02:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s_wrenn

Take my advice, the best thing to do is to never get over a woman. Let it burn you down inside. Let it play around in your head as you try to figure out her intentions. Let it make you bitter and useless. Turn on a cheesy 80’s love song and find yourself relating to it. Stay in your dead-end, well-paid, meaningless job, day in, day out and wonder if THIS IS YOUR LIFE. Come home everyday, wishing you had driven to the beach and slept in your car instead. Play your music loud, in a darkened room as you browse a pale brown forum.

Then,
Find a new woman to yearn for.
Begin again


This reminds me of a YouTube video I saw once: http://youtube.com/watch?v=P4DKPx1sK6Q


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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2007 :  14:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gyaneshwar

That's the best advice ever, Sean.

I felt like I was hearing a voiceover in a Danny Boyle film where instead of everyone being addicted to heroin they're addicted to chicks. Put on a pulsing New Order track in the background and read that shit out loud. You'll see what I mean.

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I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.

I love this forum!

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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =

USA
918 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2007 :  14:31:54  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

I despise Tarantino, Oliver Stone and snakes, yet I loved Natural Born Killers. What gives?

Dear Kathryn: I'm not jimmy, and I don't play him on a website, but I thought I should point out that I feel the same way about this. That was a great movie. I bet it was all the Leonard Cohen songs that hooked you. Does he make you swoon.?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



I feel that Natural Born Killers sucked the big one. I had heard that Stone stole the story from an independent screenplay or film that was shelved. I'm not sure if this is the movie it was stolen from but "Love and a 45" is really, really good. It's very "Natural Born Killers" like except not sucky. Mazzy Star tunes throughout. Reverend Horton Heat cameo. Can't top it.


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Don't doubt my wisdom.
Network - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
Orwell 1984 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5464625623984168940



I thought Rory Cochrane was annoyingly over the top in "Love and a .45"(which I saw purely for the soundtrack).

I agree, the soundtrack is great and has a duet of "Love Hurts" by Kim Deal and Bob Pollard in it! It's only on in the background for a few seconds, but if you can track it down, it's a great version of the song. It sounds like they just sat down with guitars in a living room and taped it on a boom box or something.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2007 :  20:59:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jimmy

I still need advice with the swooning. It won't stop. Will I be ok?

Thanks


the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2007 :  23:04:22  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Mr. bdh,
Do you see what I'm saying now? About flirtation? Have you noticed a certain forum member throwing suggestive questions in my direction? And do you see how I casually dance around those questions, causing her desire to grow stronger each time? That's courtship, kiddo.

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2007 :  23:17:57  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

For a while, around the beginning of 2004 to be exact, my favorite song was Tanya Donelly's "Swoon" from her Lovesongs for Underdogs album.
I don't know exactly what she was singing about, but it had a certain meaning for me, because back then I was a hopeless dope fiend, as opposed to now where I'm a hopeful dope fiend.
For me it's about being ambivilent- between two very different options:
A private, controlled, solitary life of dope and jerking off,
or,
the real world and actual relationships,

I'm now enjoying the latter and it's very exciting. i guess there's a time for everything.



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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2007 :  18:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear jimmy

Every time I try to send an email to mister biscuit, my forum crashes and I have to reboot my browser. What is the problem? Thank you.

Signed

Swooning More Than Ever


the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead

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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2007 :  19:17:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got your email, k. plus like 10 others that were blank.


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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2007 :  20:18:18  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I love it when I'm right.

I told you, mr bdh, it's all part of flirtation. You kept at it and now the girl you like is sending you emails.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2007 :  20:39:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dear jimmy

I was just listening to this Neil Young song and thinking it's the greatest song ever. What do you think? I think Neil's whiny voice is the best thing since Black Francis screamed in the 80s. The lyrics have given me paus. What do you think?



Only Love Can Break Your Heart

When you were young
and on your own
How did it feel
to be alone?
I was always thinking
of games that I was playing.
Trying to make
the best of my time.

But only love
can break your heart
Try to be sure
right from the start
Yes only love
can break your heart
What if your world
should fall apart?

I have a friend
I've never seen
He hides his head
inside a dream
Someone should call him
and see if he can come out.
Try to lose
the down that he's found.

But only love
can break your heart
Try to be sure
right from the start
Yes only love
can break your heart
What if your world
should fall apart?

I have a friend
I've never seen
He hides his head
inside a dream
Yes, only love
can break your heart
Yes, only love
can break your heart


the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2007 :  21:16:42  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I like the 1st verse and the chorus.
I'll have to listen to the song.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  03:59:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, please listen to it and tell me if the swooning isn't ultimately dangerous.


the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  14:58:08  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

well kate, maybe you could but it on a CD along with other songs that express your feelings for me, then send it along, or drop it off at my house.

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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  17:58:16  Show Profile  Visit awestruck's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have a major problem.

My ex-husband is ruining my 12 year old sons self esteem and I don't know what to do about it.

He is a good kid. He doesn't get into major trouble. He is the typical 12 year old 7th grader. He plays baseball. He plays his playstation and listens to music (that I hate). He wants to be like everyone else. Typical stuff.

The problem is his dad. He get onto him about everything. He can't do anything right as far as his dad is concerned, but my 9 year old daughter can do no wrong.

I divorced him because he was a jerk and I have tried very hard not to say anything negative about him to my kids.

Tonight after my son got off the phone (crying and upset) he began saying things like he wished he was never born and he wished his dad was not his dad. He said that nothing he ever does or will ever do will please his dad. I talked to him until he felt better. Of course he does not want me to talk to his dad because he says it would just make the situation worse.

Anyone out there ever deal with anything like this? As a parent or as a child? I just don't want to assume this is something he will get through as "part of life." Legally, I can't stop his dad from getting him. I want to help him without making it worse for him when he is with his dad.

Any advice?

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  18:15:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by awestruck


Tonight after my son got off the phone (crying and upset) he began saying things like he wished he was never born and he wished his dad was not his dad. He said that nothing he ever does or will ever do will please his dad. I talked to him until he felt better. Of course he does not want me to talk to his dad because he says it would just make the situation worse.

Anyone out there ever deal with anything like this? As a parent or as a child? I just don't want to assume this is something he will get through as "part of life." Legally, I can't stop his dad from getting him. I want to help him without making it worse for him when he is with his dad.





I'm sorry your family is going thru this. It's not that unusual, unfortunately. Your son is showing great insight and it's to your credit that he can talk to you at this depth. Is there a counselor at his school that your son could talk to?

P.S. I know as a parent that it's so hard to remain neutral in the face of your child expressing valid pain at what the other parent is putting them thru.



the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead

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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  18:21:35  Show Profile  Visit awestruck's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks K, I have not even thought about that.
There is a councelor at his school. I will see if maybe he can talk to him.

Your right. It is extremely hard to remain neutral.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  18:37:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's really important to stay neutral. Your kid will figure out that his dad's less than kind. He's already figured it out. Give him space to work it out --- if you start badmouthing dad, it's not only bad (no one wants to hear their parent being put down, no matter how flawed that parent is) it also takes up all the space...and your son needs space for his feelings.

Also, normalize it for him. Surely it won't be the first time the school counselor has had in his/her office a 12 year old going thru this crap. Yes it sucks, yes it's awful but it happens and people get thru it, even little people.

The therapist can help him come up with tools, ways to deal with his dad. Altering visitation isn't the only choice.

Also, the divorce was pretty recent, right? Give it time. Things get easier with time as people chill out (at least I hope your ex will chill out and realize the damage he's causing in his kid by being unpleasant).

Didn't you just remarry? If so, do you think it would help or cloud matters if your new husband were to try to help your son? (I've no idea.)

Also, does your son have relatives to whom he's close? Aunts, grandparents? Or a pastor? A priest? Support at a church or a coach? Adults he can trust?


the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead


Edited by - kathryn on 09/19/2007 18:38:29
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  18:45:08  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Dear Awestruck,
I'm very sorry to hear about what's going on. It's hard to say, since I don't know the specifics of what your ex-husband said, or what exactly the custody agreement is, but what I can say is: I think you should go against your son's wishes and talk to the father about what's going on. You should tell the father that you expect him to behave correctly towards your kids, and that if he can't or won't do that, he should do the right thing and remove himself from their lives.
I would take very seriously the things your son said the other night after the phone call- I've read about that kind of thing a thousand times; almost always when teenagers try to hurt themselves, they say something beforehand as a warning.
I don't have kids, but I know it must be awful to see them in pain. I wish I could be more help. You'll straighten this out, I'm sure.
Best wishes, Mark
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 09/19/2007 :  18:54:02  Show Profile  Visit awestruck's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes he has relatives he is close to and fortunately my husband and him are really close.
My son was 5 when his father and I divorced. My ex has always been this way with him, but
in the last couple of years it has been worse.

My mom doesn't understand why I don't say more, but I have always said that I will not sway
my kids feelings or thoughts about their dad. So many kids are used by parents to get back
at each other. It is so sad.

Thanks, K. I will check about the councelor and
I will continue to be neutral. As a mom, I just wish I could do more.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2007 :  18:55:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gosh, I have no idea who this Mark character is, butting in on jimmy's thread. But I do know from experience that trying to talk one's ex-husband into altering his (shitty) behaviour only begets more shitty behaviour especially when kids are involved (which is indecent and counter-intuitive....you'd think that people would wish the best for their children, instead of harming them as a way of punishing the wife who left them). Another reason not to confront your ex: it will contradict your son's wishes. Again from experience: the solution isn't via your ex, it's thru other venues (my above-suggested school counselor, etc.). Just my hard-, hard-earned two cents. K



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