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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  09:28:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to fully appreciate a CD?

Some of you know so much about so many new CDs.
How long and often do you listen to a CD for?

I like to listen to a CD for about a month.
Usually quite constantly and consistently.
Sometimes the same song over and over again and then to the next,
until the album feels like hmmmm mine I guess.
Unless I don't like it at all and then its out after a couple days and goes directly to the albums you tried to like but just couldn't thread.

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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  09:41:00  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It usually only takes me a day or two. I usually instantly have a feeling I'm going to really like/dislike something the first time I hear it. I'll listen to it for a week or two and move onto something else, then a month or so later dig it out again and remember how great it is. I really need to get Honeycomb back from my friend, I'm really dying to listen to it again after nearly two months without it!



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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:12:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If an album doesn't move me while listening to it in isolation with the lyrics in hand, then it ain't good to me.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know this is a boring answer, but it really does depend on the album.

I prefer the growers though usually.


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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:39:07  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Im with Mike here - on it depending. but to fully appreciate, id say 2 weeks....thats listening to it an awful lot over those two weeks. I know what you mean about doing so until it feels your own. Its that need to know and understand the album,. and all of its little bits that make it what it is....if you dont know that, it feels a little isolated from yourself.

Dunno if that made sense




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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:46:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if for artists it goes the other way. If after a certain amount of time, they feel like the album is no longer their own.


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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:47:49  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting point. Its very rare that an artist enjoys their earlier efforts. I think because they were such a different person at that time (for artists with a reasonable catalog), it probably does feel like its not theirs.




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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have heard artists with really huge albums say that they felt like they belonged to the people now, their fans. That it no longer feels like something they came up with.


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  10:57:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
2-3 spins


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God save the Noisies
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:07:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd say listening to it regularly for about two weeks. For me there is usually always one of those tracks on an album that you don't appreciate at first and then one day it will suddenly just come right up and smack you in the face and become your new favourite.
But yeah, a good two weeks and I can usually tell...

"The arc of triumph"
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it doesn't grab me within 4 seconds, I throw it on the bonfire.


Cyberhugs are for pussies.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:18:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh that made me chuckle.

You were joking right?


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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:23:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Oh that made me chuckle.

You were joking right?



Yeah, I was joking. I don't have a bonfire. I just use my fireplace.
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
4233 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:23:52  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I know this is a boring answer, but it really does depend on the album.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place




I'd say the same






pas de bras pas de chocolat
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:37:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I appreciate the record either immediately or never. I don't understand people who say it takes a while to appreciate a record - it never happened to me.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:43:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PS : When I first read the name of this topic, I thought this would be a thread where I would make all the women of the forum want to meet me.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  13:04:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur



I don't understand people who say it takes a while to appreciate a record - it never happened to me.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust



That's because you are so instantly loveable.


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  13:18:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

PS : When I first read the name of this topic, I thought this would be a thread where I would make all the women of the forum want to meet me.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust



Yeah I bet you did.

I was thinking more this;

Its a wristband too, get it get it?

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Edited by - Carolynanna on 02/14/2006 13:19:14
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  13:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

If it doesn't grab me within 4 seconds, I throw it on the bonfire.


When i gave the White Stripes' "Elephant" to a young friend of mine (whose diapers I used to change, but that's another story), he casually, and apparently authentically, replied that he usually listened to the first part of songs to 'discover' which he'd prefer. I confess to wanting to slap him upside the head, but then I know that isn't done. But still.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  13:40:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some of my all-time fave LPs took more than ten listenings to really dig (e.g. J.J. Burnel's Euroman Cometh, Catherine Wheel Adam and Eve, Chrome Half Machine Lip Moves).

OTOH, plenty of other albums instantly stirred such intense adoration that I had to distance myself or risk getting sick of them within two days.

Meanwhile, there are other records I'd love to like but still hate.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  14:08:40  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I constantly find new things in Tool albums after 5-10 years of listening as their songs are quite heavily layered. Their last record came out in 2001 and it was 2004 before I realised I liked it better than their previous one.
What usually happens with FB albums is I love a couple of songs and find the rest so-so, and the other songs grow on me gradually. The only time it didnīt happen was Honeycomb, where I listened to it every day for three weeks and havenīt put it on all that much since.
Captain Beefheartīs Trout Mask Replica is proly the record wanted the most listens from me.

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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2006 :  20:44:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
right on, Owen.

I get something new every time i listen to trout mask replica as well.
It mows down convention...clears the musical pallette (sp?)...and gives you sooooo many toys to play with.

I wonder if those of you who are creative yourselves - writers i mean - especially those that lean towards writing music...how long does it take you before you 'get' something and do you find that if the 'get it' time is short, then the "i dont need to get it again" time is rather long?

I will always own a copy of Exile in Guyville...and sometimes i'll press the headphones to my ears to hear what the people in the background are saying...imagining that abusive jackass that the song is about is actually in the other room.

Pixies albums are the same...and (stupidly) Trompe seems to be my fav for layers with Bossa a close second.

As a rule, if i don't get it the first time through and its not total bullshit (and even if it is sometimes), i'll keep trying until i'm either convinced it is made for smarter people than me (free jazz, classical, boroque, early Genesis) or i'm in pain from trying too hard.
I'm still working on some REM stuff from the mid 80's.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2006 :  03:17:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the CD is crap, it can always make a very appreciable coaster.

pas de dutchie!
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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  03:31:25  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I find I have a negative predisposition towards some albums I hear (say, media hype, album cover...), so they'll have to win me over by working harder at me, so to speak. Then I find it's more satisfying when they do.
Likewise, I can be positively predisposed towards a record, in which case if it's bad it's all the more disappointing.

He said, displaying a glaring lack of objectivity.

And, possibly making little sense...


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  04:01:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it varies. i mean it was probably a year before i really truely enjoyed the whole of TOTY. and then sometimes i can appreciate other masterpieces almost instantly. no matter how quickly i get into something though, all the best albums reveal more after repeated listens. basically i'm offering nothing new in this post.


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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2006 :  19:03:09  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On average, an album clicks with me on the 3rd or 4th listen. If I've listened to it once a day for 3 or more days, it's a hit. If I haven't listened to it 4 times after 2 weeks, I'll probably never "love" it.
If I've listened to it at least once a day for 20 consecutive listens, it's "The Devil Isn't Red" by Hella.

Edited by - Chris Knight on 02/15/2006 19:05:59
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 02/18/2006 :  11:43:23  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
As with other people here, it really varies. I tend to have a much quicker reception to fun, catchy, melodic songs. Also, some songs just sound unique, and grab my attention in that way. But for albums and songs that don't grab me right away, it can take a few listens. Sometimes it helps to put an album away for a little while, and then bring it back out later.

When I get a new album, I usually will listen to it several times in a row. When I review an album on my journal, it's generally based on the second or third listen.

I don't think I get new (new to me, that is) albums anywhere near as much as a lot of people here, though.



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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 02/18/2006 :  13:14:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BLT kind of nailed it, some records you like so much right off the bat that your afraid you're going to burn them out in no time at all. Others can take forever, I think I had the third Pogues record for 4 years before I actually came around to appreciating it as a whole, not just for the Christmas song. And every Frank record has taken me about a month to fully get into. But I really love listening to a record somewhat frequently and hearing something deep in the mix a year or so later, as if they are testing to see if your really listening. Polar Bear was the band that drew me into listening for that stuff.


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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 02/18/2006 :  13:16:46  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Spend a Christmas in Ireland and you will never appreciate that Pogues song ever again.

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Edited by - Newo on 02/18/2006 13:20:59
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 02/18/2006 :  13:25:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Qualifies as a National Christmas carol over there?
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 02/19/2006 :  02:43:00  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh yes.

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IceCream
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USA
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Posted - 02/19/2006 :  14:13:57  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not that multiple listens don't reveal different textures, but normally, it only takes me one listen to appreciate an album.

It did take me more than one listen to appreciate My Bloody Valentine's Loveless.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  07:38:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

Not that multiple listens don't reveal different textures, but normally, it only takes me one listen to appreciate an album.

It did take me more than one listen to appreciate My Bloody Valentine's Loveless.



I know what you mean. Some albums just click with you right away and some take time to grow on you. TLM and Bossa I really liked but they didn't really click with me until the reunion.

Also to your point it's nice how different layers and textues come out the longer you listen to them. Usually it happens after I take a "break" from them for awhile and then come back to them.

I think also my mood influences the way I hear songs, if that makes any sense
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  16:33:55  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It took me some time to like TLM, but I thought Bossanova was pretty cool right away.



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