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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  06:40:29  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
non, je crains un nouvel incident à la Janet Jackson




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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  06:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

There is no intention to lock the thread as part of the spring clean as it isn't a list. However, quit with the lady lumps, seriously.

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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.




Communiqué officiel de l'espace francophone

La mission de l'espace francophone est de créer un espace de communication permettant aux membres francophones du forum frankblack.net de s'exprimer librement dans la langue française, de partager la culture et l'héritage français, et de promouvoir les sus-cités auprès de ceux qui le désirent.

Jusqu'à présent, cette mission a été remplie avec succès, et avec un souci de tolérance envers les autres membres du forum. De plus, le contenu de l'espace francophone a été irréprochable - ses membres ont su, spontanément, avec tact et élégance, conjuguer des thèmes graves ou frivoles sur un ton badin et plaisant de communication constructive. Pour cet aspect, l'espace francophone pourrait servir d'exemple à l'organisation de l'ensemble du forum. Nous sommes prêts à partager notre expérience et dispenser nos conseils pour l'ensemble du forum : nous avons tous à y gagner.

En revanche, les membres de l'espace francophone condamnent unanimement et fermement toute tentative extérieure visant à s'immiscer dans la gestion de leur espace, qu'ils ne sauraient tolérer.

Le caractère injustifié et arbitraire de ces menaces provoquent la colère des membres de l'espace francophone. En effet, une image de jeune fille en maillot de bain avec une planche de surf ne peut être considérée comme obscène (sinon, on conseille au censeur de résilier son abonnement internet et de partir en Arabie Saoudite). Par ailleurs, l'image en question venait fort à propos, contrairement à 95% du charabia de ce forum. En réalité, nous avons légitimement peur qu'un certain nombre de dérives dangereuses du forum (pour lesquelles nous sommes, par ailleurs, prêts à vous aider) n'atteignent l'espace francophone.

Pire encore, nous trouvons les menaces - aussi intangibles qu'elles soient - de faire disparaître cet espace totalement scandaleuses et dignes de représailles.

A ce sujet, nous avertissons nos detracteurs que nous sommes prêts à nous battre.

Nous utiliserons TOUS les moyens à notre disposition pour prévenir toute atteinte qui riquerait d'être portée à l'espace francophone. Ces moyens pourraient s'exercer aussi bien sur la personnes proférant la menace, celle qui l'exécuterait ou son commanditaire, ainsi que l'ensemble du forum.

Nous annonçons solennellement par la présente la création de l'Armée Révolutionnaire Francophone ayant pour mission de défendre, par des moyens violents si on l'y oblige, l'intégrité et la souveraineté de l'espace francophone.

Vive la République.
Vive la France.



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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  06:43:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Avec le temps qui se remet au froid et au gris, les décolletés se sont à nouveaux cachés.
j'aime bien les décolletés mais pas sur les femmes aux gros seins que je peux cotoyer (amies, collègues, clientes...), c'est toujours difficile de garder les yeux dans sa poche.
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
4233 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  06:46:14  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
voilà qui est dit!

Et on devrait rajouter qu'il est strictement interdit d'utiliser la langue de Shakespeare dans cet Espace. Sinon on fera comme Chi-Chi avec Sellières.




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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  06:47:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

Communiqué officiel de l'espace francophone

... de partager la culture et l'héritage français, et de promouvoir les sus-cités auprès de ceux qui le désirent.



A savoir: l'art, la gastronomie, le gavage des oies et des canards, l'alcool, la variété française et les blagues grivoises.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

1718 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  06:51:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't get it.

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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:00:30  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Du calme les gars, maintenant nous avons notre frankblack.net à nous, 100% bio et français, traçabilité garantie: http://blackolero.blogspot.com


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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5127 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:06:06  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll say it again. If you want to post the photo, post a LINK to it, not the photo itself. Some of us who work have bosses that may not take kindly to anything of the kind, as archaic and stupid as that might seem. We are not judging th quality of the photo, simply putting it within our paramaters. Post a link, warn us that there is a breast involved, and everything is kosher.

And please be nicer to our newest moderator. She is doing a fantastic job with something that is not easy to do - no one is trying to make enemies.

-Brian
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

1718 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
YEAH!

Excellent travail sur les discos, camarade. Je suis impressionné.




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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
1970 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:07:08  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
http://blackolero.blogspot.com


Enfin la consécration pour Avelimp.
Merci pour le scoop.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:08:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frog, mais qui est Ray Manta?

Monsieur, Tre a censuré une photo d'une manifestante les seins à l'air reprenant le tableau,elle n'a censurée le tableau lui même . J'avoue que je l'avais postée pour faire le con aussi.
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:12:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brian,

Your hypothetic stupid boss knows that, somewhere on the internet, there are nude pictures. You don't have to open this thread.

I am not attacking you or Tre, I find you both very nice personally.

I am attacking the person who threatens our thread.

I think we are in our right here.

I also think we have the power to have our rights respected.

Let's stop acting like babies.


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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5127 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:15:27  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No, but i am at work, and if i were inclined to open a thread to say hi to my french speaking friends, and i see a nude photo, that is not what i am expecting. If i am looking at porn that is one thing, but i'm on a Frank Black message board. My boss would not care, but i'm sure someone's would.

This point is moot anyway. Just post a link. Why is that so much worse? i see that as a very fair and just compromise. Post a link, discuss the photo at length.

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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by remig

Frog, mais qui est Ray Manta?

Monsieur, Tre a censuré une photo d'une manifestante les seins à l'air reprenant le tableau,elle n'a censurée le tableau lui même . J'avoue que je l'avais postée pour faire le con aussi.



Rémi,

On s'en branle de ça.

On fait ce qu'on veut ici.

Il y a un moment où il fait dire stop.

Ils peuvent aller se faire foutre avec leurs règles à 2 balles.

Ils ont aussi réagi à propos de la fille en maillot de bain postée par floop.

Là on arrête de déconner. On est pas des enfants.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:20:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

No, but i am at work, and if i were inclined to open a thread to say hi to my french speaking friends, and i see a nude photo, that is not what i am expecting. If i am looking at porn that is one thing, but i'm on a Frank Black message board. My boss would not care, but i'm sure someone's would.

This point is moot anyway. Just post a link. Why is that so much worse? i see that as a very fair and just compromise. Post a link, discuss the photo at length.

-Brian




Brian,

There was also a reaction to the picture floop posted, involving a girl in a swimming suit. Where are we going like that?

You previously said that we need to draw a line somewhere.

Well, we are drawing a line right now.


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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:20:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
C'est vrai que ça m'énerve drôlement la pudibonderie anglo saxonne. à la limite je trouve plus grave de choper un emplyé qui passe sa jurnée à raconter des conneries sur un forum plutôt que de voir sur un écran un bout de téton.
Bon, si ça fait scandale, on va pas se facher pour ça quand même.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11523 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:21:49  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Listen guys, they asked you to stop posting something, I expect you to respect that and them, and not do so. If I see that posted again, I will instantly lock whoever does so. Tre kindly explained, the FAQ states, and then, for some reason Brian had to explain again.

If you want a link to that image, do so with a note on what you're linking to. Brian has said this as well. And it is a completely reasonable request to ask for you to not only respect him but also anyone who may check this in a place where nudity of any kind is not allowed.

Do you think we want to be forum cops and have to argue and police? No. Thanks for making our work more a pain in the ass then it should be. The line has to be drawn somewhere, it's drawn in the place where there is no questioning the ambiguity, there is no "is this still considered art or pornography" debate or question. Case closed. If you want to debate about it, feel free to continue to do so, but I swear to god I'm going to snap like you've never seen before if I see that photo or continued disrespect to any of the staff again.

You'll like me less when I'm angry.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

1718 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:22:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur
Là on arrête de déconner. On est pas des enfants.



C'est là qu'on est d'accord.

Tu t'amuses à essayer de faire verrouiller ton compte avant de partir en vacances, ou tu es vraiment sérieux, là ?



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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
4233 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:27:47  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
je propose un débat sur la thématique du nu dans l'art français en commençant avec la préhistoire et cette touchante représentation de Vénus à la Licorne ou Vénus de Laussel:

EDIT - Images removed, Cassandra_is_locked.

This isn't about art vs. pornography, this is about respecting the rules you've agreed to by being here and the people in place to keep things running. If you want to have a where we draw the line debate, as I said, you're welcome to it, but if you're going to continue to post images when you've been asked to provide links instead then goodbye. Period.




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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:31:04  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller

YEAH!

Excellent travail sur les discos, camarade. Je suis impressionné.



Thanx Mister, la mise en page a été un peu chiatique mais globalement c'était plutôt fun à faire.

Reste plus que les Pixies :)

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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:33:23  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by remig

Frog, mais qui est Ray Manta?



Manta = Frog. J'ai décidé de rester dans l'aquatique.

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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:34:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Listen guys, they asked you to stop posting something, I expect you to respect that and them, and not do so. If I see that posted again, I will instantly lock whoever does so. Tre kindly explained, the FAQ states, and then, for some reason Brian had to explain again.

If you want a link to that image, do so with a note on what you're linking to. Brian has said this as well. And it is a completely reasonable request to ask for you to not only respect him but also anyone who may check this in a place where nudity of any kind is not allowed.

Do you think we want to be forum cops and have to argue and police? No. Thanks for making our work more a pain in the ass then it should be. The line has to be drawn somewhere, it's drawn in the place where there is no questioning the ambiguity, there is no "is this still considered art or pornography" debate or question. Case closed. If you want to debate about it, feel free to continue to do so, but I swear to god I'm going to snap like you've never seen before if I see that photo or continued disrespect to any of the staff again.

You'll like me less when I'm angry.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."



Hey Dean,

I am really disappointed about what you just said.

I even thought that someone was using you username to post such rubbish.

"You'll like me less when I'm angry." - What's that shit, buddy? How old are you? Do you really want to ruin all the work that you have put in this forum?

"I swear to god I'm going to snap like you've never seen before" - Are you threatening someone here? The tone you are using is childish and laughable.

Personally, I haven't posted a picture for a long long time here.

Rules should be fought when they are wrong. I represent many people on the forum when saying this.



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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:34:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey! I can understand that in other progressive and democratic countries, a REAL picture of a girl during demonstrations showing her breasts in order to picture a famous painting may be offensive to some narrow minded people (not talking about Dean, Tre, brian or any nice forum member).
If someone find a classic PAINTING offensive, it's an other story. it's not is it art or something? it's ART AND HISTORY.
I suggest in that case taht in every french international airport to make a warning: this country is rated X!
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:40:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
L'art c'est bien, mais le moment était peut-être mal choisi pour lancer ce sujet précis.
Je trouve excessif d'avoir verrouillé le compte de cass', mais les esprits étaient bien échauffés, c'était prévisible que ça se termine comme ça.

J'ai la nette impression qu'on se trompe d'adversaire, là.




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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:41:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller

L'art c'est bien, mais le moment était peut-être mal choisi pour lancer ce sujet précis.
Je trouve excessif d'avoir verrouillé le compte de cass', mais les esprits étaient bien échauffés, c'était prévisible que ça se termine comme ça.

J'ai la nette impression qu'on se trompe d'adversaire, là.




The experts they file in by the roomful / Watching him dying young

free music



On peut pas accepter ça.

Je refuse qu'on leur suce la bite.


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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:42:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Surtout que Cass' on peut même pas lui envoyer de e-mail de soutien, il pas mis son adresse sur son profil.

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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Là, il est interdit de poster l'image de Vénus de Milo!!!!

Ce n'est pas de la pudibonderie mais de la connerie profonde!!!

Je ne fais aucune distinction entre le grand chef et ses sbires. On juge les gens sur leurs actes, pas sur ce qu'ils daubent sur un autre forum!



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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11523 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:54:51  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Monsieur. How old are you? You're behaving like a petulant child. I'm getting pissed off by you, it's true. I'm human. I'm still behaving civil and I expect you to do the same. Yes. I'm threatening/warning. And no, as predicted, you've made me angry and you probably like me less for being forced into this situation where I've become angry, was I wrong? Yes, it's a warning. Break the rules, I'm locking your account. D'uh. There shouldn't need to be a warning involved like this, but when you are asked politely, you spit in my moderators' faces. If you want the truth, if the place I created is one where I'm disrespected and have to put up with this, then I'm all about closing this forum down. With the garbage yesterday and now this morning, I've never been closer to hitting the lock forum button. I don't need this. I don't. This is a volunteer thing I do and spend way too much time on already. Only my sense of democracy and giving a clear warning has stopped me from locking your account Monsieur. If you choose to think that's childish, so be it.

I agree completely that it is not pornography, remig. Nor was what cassandra posted. That is not the point. I don't want, every time this happens, to have a debate on whether it crosses the line. Truth be told, if I had seen that initial image before Tre, I would've probably ignored it. But, she decided (rightly) that our rules state explicitly no nudity and I completely respect her decision and back it up. It makes sense, then, to place the limit somewhere where there is no nudity and no debate and no question about what's allowable and not. And to ask people to post links to these images rather than posting them directly is not so difficult, is it? Well?

It's not pornography, and this is no longer even about that, just respect. The lack of respect shown to Tre/Brian has infuriated me, though you would never know how much from what I'm writing.

Monsieur, you want to debate where we draw the line, then do so with remig here and we'll discuss it like adults. Post images or ridiculous posts about your Christian fundamentalist boss objecting to June 6 to somehow prove something and I'll probably ignore you.

We have to draw a line, I hope you can see that remig, and it's not where I'd personally put the line, but where it is least ambiguous. Perhaps that should change, but as present, it is as it is. How would you draw the line? Where? If someone can draw me a clear place where there is a divide further along the spectrum, I'll happily reconsider.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:58:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dean, if you want to lock the forum, lock the forum, there's nothing we can do about it. We'll meet somewhere else.

If you want to lock my account, lock my account. You can't lock everyone's account.


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  07:58:44  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

Là, il est interdit de poster l'image de Vénus de Milo!!!!

Ce n'est pas de la pudibonderie mais de la connerie profonde!!!




J'ai rencontré et hébergé Dean, je te jure qu'il n'a rien d'un puritain, et encore moins d'un con. Il a peut-être tapé un peu fort, mais franchement tu n'y es pas allé de main morte non plus.

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Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 04/13/2006 08:00:38
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Fartbone
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USA
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  08:01:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the word french is as bad as the word f**k


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  08:05:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dean we cannot discuss seriously if you constantly pull your banning arguments. There is a clear assymetry between us - I never know if the "submit reply" button will work.


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Fartbone
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USA
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  08:07:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The internet: Greatest invention EVER!!!


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  08:08:03  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Frog, you're right that I don't hold these values as my own (I think somewhere on my personal website I have a photo of me in front of the Venus de Milo) but these are what has been set out here to ostensibly avoid this situation. It's worked for three years. If it needs a change, I'm willing to consider, but at the moment, I see it as the easiest way to enforce.

Thanks for your mature commentary, Monsieur. I am aware that I can do either of those things. That I don't should give you pause.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 04/13/2006 :  08:08:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For example, why Fartbone is not banned? He is constantly spamming the forum.


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