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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 01/28/2006 :  19:24:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

we have something cooking for you right now that, with Brian's help (and some approval from above - i.e. Ken and/or FB), will be fresh off the grill by the end of next week.


Ooh, exciting!

BTW, get well soon, Dean.

pas de dutchie!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2006 :  04:58:40  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
does it have anything to do with this

quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face - 10/12/2005

hi charles, brian here (from last week's interview) - it should be transcribed and up here soon! i guess that cat is out of the bag now...

if not, any chance we can get to read the interview sometime. Please?
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2006 :  05:20:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's the spirit, fbc!
You just don't give up easily, do you?
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2006 :  11:37:50  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote


grrr!
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al_most_me
- FB Fan -

Uruguay
21 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  17:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
amen

¡"·_"¡
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MMD
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
233 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  15:42:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, Frank recorded a version of Dirty Old Town during the Honeycomb sessions (it was on the original leak which had tracks that didn't make it to the retail) and the Pixies also played it at their unplugged gig so for me this will be my third recrding of the song from Frank I've heard.

“Not since Orson Welles had one man so many fingers in so many pies, and been the chef as well. And then looked like he went and ate them all. The guy was out of control.”
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2008 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  15:49:17  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
MMD you're talking about "All around the World"
Dirty Old Town was recorded during the Honeycomb 2 sessions and to my knowledge was never played by the Pixies.


Pixies - All Around the World
Atlantic City, August 3rd 2005 :

http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YMVG6UT50LCT111X148QEED6U

Edited by - The Holiday Son on 02/05/2006 16:05:38
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2461 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  17:18:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, thanks. Kim's vocals are spooky.
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  18:12:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can attest to the fact that "Dirty Old Town" was not recorded, rehearsed, or considered for the HONEYCOMB sessions.

It almost didn't happen this time, it fell together on a day we were supposed to be doing rough mixes and backing vocals.

This is THE version, without a doubt.

bye,
Jon Tiven
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6194 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  01:16:18  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
as in THE best version ever made?
Exciting!


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  02:41:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks a lot for that, HS.

quote:
Originally posted by MMD

By the way, Frank recorded a version of Dirty Old Town during the Honeycomb sessions (it was on the original leak which had tracks that didn't make it to the retail) and the Pixies also played it at their unplugged gig so for me this will be my third recrding of the song from Frank I've heard.


I would have been surprized if this were true!!

pas de dutchie!
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  06:30:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love this song. Thanks Holiday Son.
Jon, please keep throwing us a couple more of interesting info, trivia, something. Whatever can keeps us going until June. Seems like forever until the album finally arrives.
For what it's worth, thanks again for stopping by.
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  13:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Velvety,

OK, here's one for you all to chew on.

I brought a dear friend of mine named Phil Sloan to you-know-who's birthday party in L.A. last year, Phil is also known as P.F. Sloan and writer of a bazillion great songs, one of which is "Eve of Destruction," a favorite of aforementioned you-know-who. I introduced the two greats to each other and in the back of my mind I hoped that it would spur some sort of collaboration in the future.

End of last year I convinced P.F. to make a new album, which I produced, which includes several old songs as well as a bunch of new ones. As I was doing it I was at the same time finishing off mixes of FASTMANRAIDERMAN, and corralled P.F. to sing harmonies on "Fast Man," which turned out beautifully.

You-know-who returned the favor by singing a couple of duets on P.F.'s record, one verse on "Eve of Destruction" and two on "Halloween Mary."
We just finished the album last Wednesday and we're shopping for a record deal for it presently.

And when I went out to L.A. to record one of these duets, you-know-who said as long as you're coming to L.A. while I'm in L.A., let's cut a few more tunes.

I said, "You've got something written?"

He said, "I will have them by the session. Who do you know to play?"

I said "Let's get P.F. Sloan to play piano."

He said "Let's get Duane Jarvis to play guitar." (Duane had played on "Raiderman" and on the sessions a year before, and had impressed our man enough to ask for a return visit.)

So I called Phil Sloan and told him the good news and said who should we get to play bass. He immediate answered, "Carol Kaye."

I'm sure some enterprising FBfan will provide information about her, I'll just leave it that she's one of the all-time greats, a be-bopping wall of sounder with more credits than anyone I know including me. I called her, she was intrigued and recommended Jim Keltner to play drums.

I called The Man, he said fine, but I may want to record for two days.
So I recommended my friend Steve Ferrone (who played on the original session that Frank Black and I started working together on--The Otis Blackwell Tribute---and is now with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers).

He said fine. I called Steve, he said count me in. So we have Keltner and Ferrone each on two tracks. Kaye, Sloan, Jarvis, and a pedal steel player our artist brought who y'all may be familiar with named Dave Phillips playing on all four. They're frickin fabulous.

bye,
Jon Tiven

Edited by - Jontiven on 02/06/2006 13:13:18
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  13:19:23  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Carol Kaye is a fantastic bass player and fantastic woman. I once took a bass workshop with her and she was great about fielding questions and being generally a sweet person.

She's played on so many records its sick, including a great deal of Phil Spector's 60s/70s work, many of the Beach Boys most famous tunes ("California Girls," "Good Vibrations") and the original SMiLE sessions.

-Brian
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7441 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  13:47:48  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Dear Velvety,

OK, here's one for you all to chew on.

I brought a dear friend of mine named Phil Sloan to you-know-who's birthday party in L.A. last year, Phil is also known as P.F. Sloan and writer of a bazillion great songs, one of which is "Eve of Destruction," a favorite of aforementioned you-know-who. I introduced the two greats to each other and in the back of my mind I hoped that it would spur some sort of collaboration in the future.

End of last year I convinced P.F. to make a new album, which I produced, which includes several old songs as well as a bunch of new ones. As I was doing it I was at the same time finishing off mixes of FASTMANRAIDERMAN, and corralled P.F. to sing harmonies on "Fast Man," which turned out beautifully.

You-know-who returned the favor by singing a couple of duets on P.F.'s record, one verse on "Eve of Destruction" and two on "Halloween Mary."
We just finished the album last Wednesday and we're shopping for a record deal for it presently.

And when I went out to L.A. to record one of these duets, you-know-who said as long as you're coming to L.A. while I'm in L.A., let's cut a few more tunes.

I said, "You've got something written?"

He said, "I will have them by the session. Who do you know to play?"

I said "Let's get P.F. Sloan to play piano."

He said "Let's get Duane Jarvis to play guitar." (Duane had played on "Raiderman" and on the sessions a year before, and had impressed our man enough to ask for a return visit.)

So I called Phil Sloan and told him the good news and said who should we get to play bass. He immediate answered, "Carol Kaye."

I'm sure some enterprising FBfan will provide information about her, I'll just leave it that she's one of the all-time greats, a be-bopping wall of sounder with more credits than anyone I know including me. I called her, she was intrigued and recommended Jim Keltner to play drums.

I called The Man, he said fine, but I may want to record for two days.
So I recommended my friend Steve Ferrone (who played on the original session that Frank Black and I started working together on--The Otis Blackwell Tribute---and is now with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers).

He said fine. I called Steve, he said count me in. So we have Keltner and Ferrone each on two tracks. Kaye, Sloan, Jarvis, and a pedal steel player our artist brought who y'all may be familiar with named Dave Phillips playing on all four. They're frickin fabulous.

bye,
Jon Tiven




saved just in case the namecalling starts again...


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
4233 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  14:11:54  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Carol Kaye"!!!

this is a real fucking great news

thnx Mr Tiven.






pas de bras pas de chocolat
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  21:22:59  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Nope, anyone so doing will be permanently banned without exception.

Sorry, but the reason I can allow that thread to exist is because it's non-commercial material.

But... to stave off the complaints, don't worry... we have something cooking for you right now that, with Brian's help (and some approval from above - i.e. Ken and/or FB), will be fresh off the grill by the end of next week.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."




So uh.. what ever happened to this??

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  22:35:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is the beginning of next week and Brian and I spent pretty much the entire evening on it... patience! We don't know if it's going to be approved or even well-liked, but it is in progress.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6194 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  22:39:53  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
great!


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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
4233 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  23:50:43  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
curious to see what it's about






pas de bras pas de chocolat
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  02:32:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey! That was fbc's line!
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  04:02:35  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Dear Velvety,

OK, here's one for you all to chew on.

I brought a dear friend of mine named Phil Sloan to you-know-who's birthday party in L.A. last year, Phil is also known as P.F. Sloan and writer of a bazillion great songs, one of which is "Eve of Destruction," a favorite of aforementioned you-know-who. I introduced the two greats to each other and in the back of my mind I hoped that it would spur some sort of collaboration in the future.

End of last year I convinced P.F. to make a new album, which I produced, which includes several old songs as well as a bunch of new ones. As I was doing it I was at the same time finishing off mixes of FASTMANRAIDERMAN, and corralled P.F. to sing harmonies on "Fast Man," which turned out beautifully.

You-know-who returned the favor by singing a couple of duets on P.F.'s record, one verse on "Eve of Destruction" and two on "Halloween Mary."
We just finished the album last Wednesday and we're shopping for a record deal for it presently.

And when I went out to L.A. to record one of these duets, you-know-who said as long as you're coming to L.A. while I'm in L.A., let's cut a few more tunes.

I said, "You've got something written?"

He said, "I will have them by the session. Who do you know to play?"

I said "Let's get P.F. Sloan to play piano."

He said "Let's get Duane Jarvis to play guitar." (Duane had played on "Raiderman" and on the sessions a year before, and had impressed our man enough to ask for a return visit.)

So I called Phil Sloan and told him the good news and said who should we get to play bass. He immediate answered, "Carol Kaye."

I'm sure some enterprising FBfan will provide information about her, I'll just leave it that she's one of the all-time greats, a be-bopping wall of sounder with more credits than anyone I know including me. I called her, she was intrigued and recommended Jim Keltner to play drums.

I called The Man, he said fine, but I may want to record for two days.
So I recommended my friend Steve Ferrone (who played on the original session that Frank Black and I started working together on--The Otis Blackwell Tribute---and is now with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers).

He said fine. I called Steve, he said count me in. So we have Keltner and Ferrone each on two tracks. Kaye, Sloan, Jarvis, and a pedal steel player our artist brought who y'all may be familiar with named Dave Phillips playing on all four. They're frickin fabulous.

bye,
Jon Tiven




Hey, that's much more than we asked for! Do you want to kill us or what? :)


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"I want to change the world but it's changing me!"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6194 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  04:50:52  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Jim Keltner played wiht Lennon on Jealous Guy, cool
Carol Kaye she rules
and the return of little Davey P. is also good to report
wow,
what a post!


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  05:17:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

I brought a dear friend of mine named Phil Sloan to you-know-who's birthday party in L.A. last year, Phil is also known as P.F. Sloan and writer of a bazillion great songs, one of which is "Eve of Destruction," a favorite of aforementioned you-know-who.


Anyone remember that radio show where Frank DJed? He picked Eve Of Destruction as one the songs, and he was saying he first heard it in an old movie. I can't remember what it was called.

pas de dutchie!
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  12:21:02  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

This is the beginning of next week and Brian and I spent pretty much the entire evening on it... patience! We don't know if it's going to be approved or even well-liked, but it is in progress.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."



Actually, this is the beginning of the week AFTER the next week in which you had originally posted the message. So it's been going on two weeks now.

But unless it's a way for us to pay to download the new album in order to get it in advance, or some other way to obtain the album faster, I honestly don't care what it is.

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  13:06:08  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, thanks. Not sure why you asked then. :P


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  16:59:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde




saved just in case the namecalling starts again...


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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Ha, that's funny Denis.


Sir Jon, you are very generous. Thank you.

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  18:30:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Holiday Son. You made my week. Seriously!!


Kim's vocals remind me of Janis Joplin.

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 02/07/2006 18:31:01
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
411 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  22:33:37  Show Profile  Visit Apesy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
*THE* P.F. Sloan?! "Eve of Destruction" is one of my favorites, too. This is fantastic news. Can't wait to hear these things...

-=Apesy
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2006 :  10:45:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kaye's touch is indeed amazing. She also played on several tracks on matthew Sweet's underrated In Reverse LP a few years back.

~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  04:33:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Disc two is mastered. All the rockers we left off HONEYCOMB fit much better on this record, and methinks that FASTMANRAIDERMAN is not much like HONEYCOMB at all. I'm sure dyperman will have his copy soon enough and will be weighing in, but my bet is that among the fans, this album won't be nearly as controversial as the last. Of course, there will be those who say it's great, and those who say it's greater.......

bye,
Jon Tiven
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  06:15:02  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So... IF one disc is new tracks from LA plus Honeycomb b-sides, will that particular disc sound like Honeycomb?


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  08:13:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not really. It's the tracks from HONEYCOMB that rocked a little harder.

Enough with the trick questions, already!!!!!!!!!

bye,
Jon Tiven
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6194 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  08:32:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Honeycomb controversial?
Frank and Violet weren't nude on the European cover, maybe I missed something

Fastman Raiderman, I think it's going to be a blast.


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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2461 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  08:39:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to hear things are progressing.
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