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Originally posted by HeywoodJablome

Hmm, if your talking about mainstream culture they are both pretty pathetic. "Friends" and "BET" both make me want to vomit. All it comes down to is there are original and genuine things about every culture and bologna that panders to the lowest common denominator.

That being said, who wants to go get a new set of crunk teeth with me?

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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Of course we can compare values to ours and say what we don't agree with (as I have re:N.American culture), but how can we say its wrong? Wrong in this case is only defined by values of OUR culture. People might look at our culture with a different set of values and hold that something we believe at our core (such as equality, perhaps) is wrong. And it's not that much of a stretch, obviously there are things some people are better at than others, some people are smarter, some are stronger, etc... I'm not saying this is a valid argument, just that as long as you're not flying in the face of science, there is no such thing as wrong, just differences of opinion.

That said, I think that 90% (+) of the worlds' cultures share some core values so we could define something that we are all against as 'wrong' for our world culture, if that makes sense. Things like murder and listening to Britney Spears.

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"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."

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This debate has at least two aspects - pinky culture vs masculine culture (yeah - blacks), and wether such debates are meaningfull at all because everything is so relative. Pinks vs blacks I know nothing about, but I disagree with your relativism. I am not saying that one culture is "more right" or better - but I think people in general, and academics in particluar, behave cowardly regarding pointing out that - yep - certain things are unacceptable.

A couple of examples: European politicians should point out, to the USA and Iran, that executing children and mentally retarded people is a cultural practice that is unaceptable (wait - i'm not sure that Iran really does that anymore). The (unaceptable)practice of forced circumcition of girls should have been pointed out a long time ago by the european left instead of embracing everything as a question of values. You can't use science for everything - science is as much as anything else governed by beliefs, values, money and power struggles. I think the moderates/liberals/lefties of the western world's failure to be clear on certain issues related to culture/values paved way for Bush and his moralism (and right wing extremism in europe)- and i'd hate to see more of his kind.

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Originally posted by Carolynanna

I thought ivan might be erebus (for all I could understand) until the edit...;)


i'm a liberal leftie :)








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Originally posted by BLT

I'm half joking (as usual). All I'm saying is I spent a week in Canada and two weeks in Ireland and I could probably count the blacks I saw on one hand (and maybe another finger or two).

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Originally posted by starmekitten

I don't see how Jimmys argument is even an argument, it's a very segmented stereotype and has implications in "white culture" as well as "black culture". To say that it's only in black populations where there are single parent families (which aren't strictly worse than two parent families either) or poor educational standards is extremely tunnel visioned. As far as I can see the basis of these points is a local one, as in local to Jimmy. If by rap you mean mainstream black musical culture, to do a fair comparison mainstream white musical culture would be... shockingly bad pop music by vaccuous pretty boys and slutty girls singing songs abour feisty love written by people in their forties. I'll take rap....

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Originally posted by Carl

Homers, that's such a *hic* stereotype!

pas de dutchie!

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Originally posted by Fartbone

i'm racist against mexicans, they smell yo

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Originally posted by lonely persuader

if your going to critise some-one, lock all the threads that have some swipe against the canadians as i see the americans love to have a go at the canadians? i dont quite get the jokes but hey..

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Originally posted by lonely persuader

aw, come on grow up, broken face..

"i'm racist against mexicans, they smell yo"... If you can't take that light-heartedly well i dunno what's going on.....
im irish and drink guinness and say "begorrah" alot.... racism is not about having a joke at someones expense... feck, people are always making fun of the irish, especially the irish....

if your going to critise some-one, lock all the threads that have some swipe against the canadians as i see the americans love to have a go at the canadians? i dont quite get the jokes but hey..

are u saying that the canadians can take a joke but the mexicans can't. Now that is real racism.

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Originally posted by lonely persuader

if your going to critise some-one, lock all the threads that have some swipe against the canadians as i see the americans love to have a go at the canadians? i dont quite get the jokes but hey..

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what are you talking abooot?

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