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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 12/11/2005 : 14:02:39
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I'm fucking sick of all this Beatles' fanboyism. Face it: they sucked. The only reason they're heralded as the best band of all time is because they made billions of dollars for their record company, Time Warner.
Fuck that shit. I'm tired of seeing unappreciated bands, like The Velvet Underground or the Cornhaiser Ruffletons go unnoticed because they don't pander to people with shitty tastes like the Beatles did and still do with you. Fuck the Beatles. Fuck them in their butthole. If it weren't for their producer Rick Rubin, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr would be living in some ditch in Liverpool, if unfortunately they weren't dead by now.
And if it weren't for Sony/BGM milking the brand for all they could, IE, RERELEASING A BEATLES ABLUM WITH MINOR ADDITIONS EVERY FUCKING YEAR, they would be nowhere.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 14:06:52
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Heh, I actually looked up "Cornhaiser Ruffletons" on Google. As I suspected, no results.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 14:13:45
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I nominate spun for banning!
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Don't believe the hype. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 14:16:00
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I hope this is a joke
because I'm not getting it
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God save the Noisies |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 14:18:38
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zub_the_goat
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 14:24:23
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 15:17:14
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quote:
I hope this is a joke
because I'm not getting it
Wait, if you don't get it, wouldn't you want it NOT to be a joke?
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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Z_Zoquis
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 16:03:34
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 16:15:14
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and jam...
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chineselover
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
348 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 16:33:47
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| although they are v overrated!! is that wrong? |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 18:42:22
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VU underappreciated? LMAO!
That fucking pablum gets more lip service than Husker Du! |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 20:10:41
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They are legendary, but deservedly so. They probably sucked on a ot of bongs!
BTW, heard McCartney's A Wonderful Christmas Time in a supermarket during the week, and it really struck by how cloying and dumb that song is.
 "Join the Honeycult!"
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cassandra is
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 03:07:12
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quote:
Originally posted by VoVat
quote:
I hope this is a joke
because I'm not getting it
Wait, if you don't get it, wouldn't you want it NOT to be a joke?
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares."
no this was really just a lame reaction to a lame post
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 04:56:16
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Hey Spunboy, I fucking agree with you.
The fucking king is naked.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:27:12
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quote:
Originally posted by spunXtain
I'm fucking sick of all this Beatles' fanboyism. Face it: they sucked. The only reason they're heralded as the best band of all time is because they made billions of dollars for their record company, Time Warner.
Fuck that shit. I'm tired of seeing unappreciated bands, like The Velvet Underground or the Cornhaiser Ruffletons go unnoticed because they don't pander to people with shitty tastes like the Beatles did and still do with you. Fuck the Beatles. Fuck them in their butthole. If it weren't for their producer Rick Rubin, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr would be living in some ditch in Liverpool, if unfortunately they weren't dead by now.
And if it weren't for Sony/BGM milking the brand for all they could, IE, RERELEASING A BEATLES ABLUM WITH MINOR ADDITIONS EVERY FUCKING YEAR, they would be nowhere.
Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
Come on Pete, give it up, we know it's you.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
1315 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:37:11
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:39:05
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Originally posted by ccuadros
I think they're overrated, I don't like their music, only like a few songs like come together, but they were a good musicians.
Especially Ringo. Such an amazing drummer.
[/sarcasm]
I got some heaven in my head
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:41:23
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Scott Boutier isn't exceptional either. Does this make the Catholics a bad band?
(THERE! I said it!)
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!" |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:49:13
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Originally posted by vilainde
Scott Boutier isn't exceptional either. Does this make the Catholics a bad band?
(THERE! I said it!)
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!"
And I'll repeat what I said in another thread moments ago: I worry about you Denis.
It's time you took a vacation to Mexico, sit on a beach with your gorgeous wife and sip a drink with a little umbrella in it. That Parisian winter is getting to your brain.
I got some heaven in my head
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:59:31
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WORD
(but I maintain what I wrote)
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!" |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 08:25:44
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Turn me on, dead man. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. With a love like that, you know you should be glad.
I was alone...in my BIG BED
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 13:12:29
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
quote:
Originally posted by spunXtain
I'm fucking sick of all this Beatles' fanboyism. Face it: they sucked. The only reason they're heralded as the best band of all time is because they made billions of dollars for their record company, Time Warner.
Fuck that shit. I'm tired of seeing unappreciated bands, like The Velvet Underground or the Cornhaiser Ruffletons go unnoticed because they don't pander to people with shitty tastes like the Beatles did and still do with you. Fuck the Beatles. Fuck them in their butthole. If it weren't for their producer Rick Rubin, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr would be living in some ditch in Liverpool, if unfortunately they weren't dead by now.
And if it weren't for Sony/BGM milking the brand for all they could, IE, RERELEASING A BEATLES ABLUM WITH MINOR ADDITIONS EVERY FUCKING YEAR, they would be nowhere.
Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
Come on Pete, give it up, we know it's you.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Trace the call, trace the call!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 06:29:56
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"Hello operator. Can I get a number for a Pete Best please?"
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 08:04:35
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What if he has a trace busta? heh.
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 11:33:29
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 12:43:34
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quote:
Originally posted by spunXtain
I'm fucking sick of all this Beatles' fanboyism. Face it: they sucked. The only reason they're heralded as the best band of all time is because they made billions of dollars for their record company, Time Warner.
Fuck that shit. I'm tired of seeing unappreciated bands, like The Velvet Underground or the Cornhaiser Ruffletons go unnoticed because they don't pander to people with shitty tastes like the Beatles did and still do with you. Fuck the Beatles. Fuck them in their butthole. If it weren't for their producer Rick Rubin, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr would be living in some ditch in Liverpool, if unfortunately they weren't dead by now.
And if it weren't for Sony/BGM milking the brand for all they could, IE, RERELEASING A BEATLES ABLUM WITH MINOR ADDITIONS EVERY FUCKING YEAR, they would be nowhere.
Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
This has to be one of the most laughable posts I've ever read. I would consider myself a diehard Beatles fan, but I'm very insulted that somebody would say it's only because they made a shit-ton of money. That has jack to do with it. Normally I'd try to at least acknowledge and appreciate somebody else's point of view, but spunXtain obviously has absolutely no comprehension of what he's arguing.
First off, TVU has not gone unappreciated. That's absurd. I can't argue the Cornhaiser Ruffletons, as I've never heard of them. Perhaps that's spunXtain's band.
Second, if the Beatles were only interested in pandering to people with shitty tastes, they never would have written their own songs and insisted on recording them, something unheard of prior to Please, Please Me. The real money-makers of the time recorded songs written by other people. They occasionally did mushy songs like Til There Was You in their early, early years just so they could play at more venues that wouldn't allow their usual brand of music. They could have kept playing live making billions and billions more, but they knew that wasn't making them better musicians so they stopped playing live. That doesn't sound like pandering.
Third, does spunXtain even know who Rick Rubin is? He produced the BEASTIE BOYS. Not THE BEATLES. There's a big freakin' difference. The Beatles has George Martin as their producer for all of their albums (save The Beatles and Let It Be), and yes, he added a drastic amount to their ability to create the music they wanted, and any person with a sense of history of Rock & Roll owes a great deal of grattitude to George Martin for just that. George Martin invented a lot of the recording techniques that contemporary musicians take for granted.
Fourth, what has Sony/BMG released? And what has been rereleased every year? If spunXtain knows something I don't know, I'd really like know it, too. The last Beatles release was Let It Be...Naked, which definately doesn't constitute "minor additions." It stripped off all of Phil Spector's extra production and brought it back to the initial intentions of that album, which was for it to be raw and live. The closest thing to Let It Be...Naked would be the original Get Back album, mixed by Glyn Johns, which has never been released. And before LIB..N (which was released in late 2003...where's the 2004 and 2005 rereleases?) They released "1" which was a collection of number one songs. If somebody has a problem with a greatest hits album, or any rereleases for that matter, then he or she sure as hell shouln't be buying anything like Death To The Pixies or Wave Of Mutilation, or the forthcoming FB&TC box set.
None of this even covers the Beatles musicianship. They were clever, catchy songwriters from the moment Lennon and McCartney got together, and from Help! on through the end of their career they never stopped rewriting the way music was made and recorded.
Also, there's no mention of Brian Epstein. Certainly if you're going to argue the Beatles business practices, you might want to at least acknowledge the existence of their manager; i.e. the one who made them wear suits, play shorter sets, and get the amount of money he thought they deserved. Epstein was, in my eyes, the best manager in rock. Not because of the things I previously mentioned, of course, but for the amazingly scrupulous way he handled the Beatles and his other bands. He was one of the most admired and respected guys in the business. Maybe learn a few things about him before disregarding him.
And just as a sidenote regarding kathryn's quip regarding Ringo, he actually was an excellent drummer. When I was younger I myself had said that Ringo wasn't that great of a drummer. But the more I listened and the more I read into the band, I saw that they couldn't have had a better drummer. He played exactly what the songs needed for a solid foundation. He wasn't an attention whore like a lot of drummers are today. I think Ringo and Scott are similar in that respect. I've read many interviews with almost everybody involved with the Beatles recordings and hardly a one of them has failed to mention how Ringo was the most solid drummer they've ever met. He never wavered a beat in a decade's worth of recording.
I'm not just trying to show off trivia here. This was really just a baseless thread. |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 16:21:46
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I'm glad you're back, Dietr. You rock.
I got some heaven in my head
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 16:33:57
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Thanks, Kathryn. I apologize. I get a little defensive when people bad mouth my boys. And to remark on Carl's comment regarding McCartney's Wonderful Christmas Time, yes, it's terribly cheezy, and in 1979 it embodied a lot of the things I think McCartney could have done without in the 70's (not to mention it being an adequate precursor to his 1980 synth-laden release McCartney II). But I happened to hear that song on the radio late last night in my car, and I cranked it up. I don't know if my mild sleep deprivation or the pea-soup fog I was driving through had anything to do with it, but there's some trippy noises in that song. The percussion and the synth have a lot of idiosyncratic fondling of eachother in a strange way. It's the sort of thing you'd really only catch if you did have it playing really loud in your car or on headphones. Granted, he has many, many other songs that I'd rather listen to under those circumstances, but if you come across it on your radio dial, give it a try. I'm sure most people who enjoy quirky music (many of whom are members of this forum for that very reason) can find something in that song to appreciate. Macca is always good for that.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 16:37:02
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No need to apologize. I still can't get past "Silly Love Songs." But I do appreciate your respectful, instructive tone on this board, as I am sure do many others here.
I got some heaven in my head
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 16:46:38
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Oh, I love "Silly Love Songs." Mainly because I watched Give My Regards To Broadstreet too many times when I was really little and I always liked that part of the movie. And you do realize that that song was written to be as schmaltzy as possible, as a response to Lennon saying McCartney was only capable of writing "silly love songs," right? Out of context, it's tacky (but always catchy). In context, it was a pretty ballsy thing for McCartney to do.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 18:41:09
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i think you should go to blank lines between paragraphs cause that block of text is pretty unappealing.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 20:05:18
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Blank lines have been added, PixieSteve. Thanks. I tend to ramble and ignore the asthetic.
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 21:48:49
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LOL JOKE TOPIC
RICK RUBIN LOL
CORNHAISER RUFFLETONS LOL
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 23:35:59
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Thank God. Well, if anything else, it was a healthy daily affermation.
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