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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 12/09/2005 : 13:32:13
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I'd say C just shades it over your group, and Group H possibly the weakest, although Tunisia are the African Cup holders.
Looking at it, there don't seem to be any groups that are excessively weak or strong, but you could probably pick the top two from each group, with a couple of exceptions.
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 12/09/2005 : 13:36:25
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Okay, I will:
A - Germany, Ecuador
B - Sweden, England (just to watch them get thumped in the quarters and cry about refs or something for the next four years)
C - Holland, Argentina
D - Mexico, Portugal
E - Czech Republic, Italy
F - Brazil, Australia
G - France, Switzerland
H - Spain, Tunisia
Honestly, I question some of these, but it's the best I could do in 74 seconds.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/09/2005 : 14:08:36
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Yay! Mexico got lucky. I'll try to get tickets for Mexico-Portugal.
Denis
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/09/2005 : 14:11:32
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I was just looking at some world rankings, and in Group E, Italy are the third ranked team. Czech Republic are 2nd and USA are 8th, with Italy 12th.
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2005 : 14:12:41
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/09/2005 : 17:46:15
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Any of the big teams on paper have a great chance. It's just a matter of who gets the right blend in the team at that time. My money would go on Brazil or Argentina to win but I have a feeling it will be Argentina and for Riquelme, Tevez and Messi to be their outstanding performers. As for England, they're victims of their own hype. I feel sorry for Sven because he has done an amazing job for England. He lost one qualifying game and that isn't acceptable?! Crazy! I don't think it will come down to dodgy refereeing decisions, penalties, formation, Sven or any of those excuses. I think that in the past it has never dawned on the media that maybe England just weren't good enough, that they didnt have that last pieces of skill or inspiration that seperated them from the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Italy and France of recent times. In saying that though, this England team is the best in my lifetime I've seen. However I still feel they are a couple of truly inspirational players short of being on the same level as Brazil or Argentina. As for next manager, whoever comes in will have a hard time replacing Sven, I find it very hypocritical that so many people are against him even though he has a proven record and has won the Serie A with Lazio in his past.
England have lots of inspirational players. All moulded into one footballer. Wayne Rooney ; )
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Trouble is rooney is what, just 20? Dont get me wrong I rate Ronney, but He's only one indivual. Lampard, A cole, Gerrard, Owen sure, but if one of thrm underperforms whos in??? Argentina, Riquelme underperforms Aimar is in, or Messi or Tevez or Saviola. Or Aguero (yeah best new young player), Im not putting England down but they rely on physical strength than skill. In defence Heinze, Ayala, Samuel, Milito, Burdisso, Zanetti, Coloccini, Gonzalo...midfeild Mascherano, Cambiasso, Veron (if ever picked), Bernardi, Maxi, Lucho Gonzales, Duscher...Atttack, Crespo, Cruz, Figueroa, Klimowicz (shite i know but he scores goals!) I see no way past Argentina,so much strength and depth!!!! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 02:48:33
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I have to say that Holland is in a very though group and I'm not sure we are going to survive.
it's just a game, besides, Argentina-Holland, that's at least a nice match
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 04:10:55
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Group C is the toughest, at least on paper.
Bad luck for Holland again.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 04:26:40
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I'd have said D or E were the groups of death, they look fairly tricky.
I'm fairly pleased with England's draw though. I can't do England predictions, we don't come under conventional logic, but I'll guess a 1-1 draw with Sweden if nothing else.
Anybody know what food is like in Paraguay? Or what they drink? One of my friends has had the bright idea to do theme evenings around the football, i.e. we eat and drink stuff from the country we're playing. Sweden we can probably manage, Trinidad & Tobago, excellent stuff, Paraguay no idea.
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 05:25:37
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I'm looking forward to watching Kevin Muscatt try and kick lumps out of Brazil. I used to watch him play for Wolves and he's officially the dirtiest player i've ever seen.
Steveio, do you have any inside info on the Argies you could pass onto Sven? |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 06:20:47
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Cool! Germany is in a pretty fair group.
But I would say it's Germany (of course  ) and Poland (instead of Equador) to proceed.
An Denis, how on earth are you planning to get tickets for Mexico-Portugal (or any other game, for that matter). You make that sound like there's a fair chance of getting them. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2005 : 11:17:58
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
I'd have said D or E were the groups of death, they look fairly tricky.
GROUP D
Mexico
Iran
Angola
Portugal
Really? Group of Death? I know nothing about Angola. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 11:39:58
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I suppose Cheeseman meant group C. Mexico and Portugal will qualify easily I think. The downside is that they'll meet the winners of group C in 1/8ths.
kelladwella: you're right, I don't see how I could get tickets. Perhaps I should try Mexico-Angola, nobody will want to see this one...
Denis
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 14:12:13
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I hope not. Nothing against the country or the fans, just can't stand Cristiano Ronaldo.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 12/10/2005 : 16:16:49
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
I'd have said D or E were the groups of death, they look fairly tricky.
GROUP D
Mexico
Iran
Angola
Portugal
Really? Group of Death? I know nothing about Angola.
To be fair, I rarely know what I'm talking about.
That said: Mexico - very decent team; Portugal - Euro finalists, some great players; Iran - ranked 19th in the world, won't be easy to beat; Angola, fair enough, I know nothing either.
I guess you could go through all the groups like that though.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 01:06:09
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I'd say Germany has the most easy poule, but it's never going to be easy on a tournament like this one
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 04:12:02
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Hey, we didn't get Trinidad&Tobago...
But there is no denying that Lady Luck was on our side last friday. |
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 12/11/2005 : 06:41:52
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Mexico sucks my friends, they only qualify to the world cup because they play only with Concacaf teams(El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Canada...pffff), they´re overrated, their national competition is so bad that a lot of chilean players play there...and make goals.. .
I´ll go for Brazil.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:02:03
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Originally posted by darwin
Do they do it Hollywood style? A few risque dance numbers, perhaps some Scorpions,
For some bizarre reason, I thought you were suggesting they place some scorpions in the pots with the balls, so the person who draws may get stung. Now THAT'S entertainment.
I say C is the toughtest, with F, G and H being the weakest.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:05:45
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Originally posted by fbc
I'm looking forward to watching Kevin Muscatt try and kick lumps out of Brazil. I used to watch him play for Wolves and he's officially the dirtiest player i've ever seen.
I agree. About him being the dirtiest player you've ever seen. I have no desire to see the guy play ever again. In fact I hope he never breathes again. And I love Aussies.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:09:43
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Originally posted by Stevio10
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Any of the big teams on paper have a great chance. It's just a matter of who gets the right blend in the team at that time. My money would go on Brazil or Argentina to win but I have a feeling it will be Argentina and for Riquelme, Tevez and Messi to be their outstanding performers. As for England, they're victims of their own hype. I feel sorry for Sven because he has done an amazing job for England. He lost one qualifying game and that isn't acceptable?! Crazy! I don't think it will come down to dodgy refereeing decisions, penalties, formation, Sven or any of those excuses. I think that in the past it has never dawned on the media that maybe England just weren't good enough, that they didnt have that last pieces of skill or inspiration that seperated them from the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Italy and France of recent times. In saying that though, this England team is the best in my lifetime I've seen. However I still feel they are a couple of truly inspirational players short of being on the same level as Brazil or Argentina. As for next manager, whoever comes in will have a hard time replacing Sven, I find it very hypocritical that so many people are against him even though he has a proven record and has won the Serie A with Lazio in his past.
England have lots of inspirational players. All moulded into one footballer. Wayne Rooney ; )
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Trouble is rooney is what, just 20? Dont get me wrong I rate Ronney, but He's only one indivual. Lampard, A cole, Gerrard, Owen sure, but if one of thrm underperforms whos in??? Argentina, Riquelme underperforms Aimar is in, or Messi or Tevez or Saviola. Or Aguero (yeah best new young player), Im not putting England down but they rely on physical strength than skill. In defence Heinze, Ayala, Samuel, Milito, Burdisso, Zanetti, Coloccini, Gonzalo...midfeild Mascherano, Cambiasso, Veron (if ever picked), Bernardi, Maxi, Lucho Gonzales, Duscher...Atttack, Crespo, Cruz, Figueroa, Klimowicz (shite i know but he scores goals!) I see no way past Argentina,so much strength and depth!!!!
Yeah I was kidding, we're a one man team like the club he plays for.
Still beat the Argies though recently ; )
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:15:32
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Couldn't beat Everton though, eh? eh?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:21:53
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Yeah even the one man couldn't get past them. Rubbish.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/12/2005 : 06:39:48
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Originally posted by ccuadros
Mexico sucks my friends, they only qualify to the world cup because they play only with Concacaf teams(El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Canada...pffff), they´re overrated, their national competition is so bad that a lot of chilean players play there...and make goals...
I´ll go for Brazil.
Salu2
I hope you never meet my wife. She'd rip your guts out...
Seriously, I agree about the Concacaf being a bit of a joke, but still. Borgetti is the world's top scorer of the preliminary matches, and in the last 5 years Mexico has won 4 times and drawn twice against Brazil, for only 1 defeat.
By they way, I've read discussions are under way for a friendly France-Mexico match next May in Paris. Can't wait...
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!" |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 06:27:35
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Originally posted by vilainde
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Originally posted by ccuadros
Mexico sucks my friends, they only qualify to the world cup because they play only with Concacaf teams(El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Canada...pffff), they´re overrated, their national competition is so bad that a lot of chilean players play there...and make goals...
I´ll go for Brazil.
Salu2
Borgetti is the world's top scorer of the preliminary matches,
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!"
Yet he still can't get a game for Bolton. Who said that Sam Allardyce knows what he is doing?
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 10:07:38
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I hope you never meet my wife. She'd rip your guts out...
Seriously, I agree about the Concacaf being a bit of a joke, but still. Borgetti is the world's top scorer of the preliminary matches, and in the last 5 years Mexico has won 4 times and drawn twice against Brazil, for only 1 defeat.
By they way, I've read discussions are under way for a friendly France-Mexico match next May in Paris. Can't wait...
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!"
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yeah, you're right but those match were friendly matches, in that games the brazilian playeres were thinking about dance samba and drink cahipiriñas. Think at the official competitions...like tha last Copa America in Perú: 1. Brazil, 2. Argentina, 3. Uruguay, 4. Colombia.....where is Mexico???.
For me Mexico it's the Spain of Europe, they have a lot of money in their national competition and they raise their level with foreign players, but their national team isn't so good as their national competition.
Salu2
P.D.: Did I said that my national team sucks too?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 11:08:27
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Originally posted by ccuadros
yeah, you're right but those match were friendly matches, in that games the brazilian playeres were thinking about dance samba and drink cahipiriñas. Think at the official competitions...
***cough confederations cup cough***
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For me Mexico it's the Spain of Europe, they have a lot of money in their national competition and they raise their level with foreign players, but their national team isn't so good as their national competition.
In fact we have the same opinion, but hey, it's soccer, we have to argue!
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P.D.: Did I said that my national team sucks too?
No you didn't, but I know!
Denis
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 11:30:22
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 12/13/2005 : 17:41:54
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***cough confederations cup cough***
my friend, confederations cup it's a joke, the only tournament in America that all the teams go with all their stars and play seriously it's America Cup, every 2 years, the other's cup was made by conmebol to collect money...
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
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Posted - 12/14/2005 : 01:01:30
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I think Denis refers to the Confederations Cup that took place in Germany this summer. Mexico beat Brazil 1-0. Borgetti scored.
That "Cup" still is a joke, but was invented by the FIFA to collect money. |
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 12/14/2005 : 04:51:03
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Originally posted by kelladwella
I think Denis refers to the Confederations Cup that took place in Germany this summer. Mexico beat Brazil 1-0. Borgetti scored.
That "Cup" still is a joke, but was invented by the FIFA to collect money.
yeah kella, you're right, i had a mistake, it was made by FIFA |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 18:40:34
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| I´ve been in Argentina for a couple of months now and there´s some awesome football being played here now. They´ll win. Sweden have a brilliant team - they´ll play good, be underestimated and end up in the semi-finals again with Germany and Brazil. England have no chance (and no class may i add:). |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 05:59:28
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Argentina won't beat Brazil. They can't even beat England.
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