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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  16:32:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mexico sucks, I'll go for Brazil, Ronaldiño it's god.

P.D.: Chilean Team sucks too, that's why we won't be at the world cup
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1462 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  18:40:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
where in the fuck is canada? this is a disgrace. but i'm still going to watch the world cup. i'll put my money on iran.


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  22:55:47  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin


I wonder how much of the dismissing of US soccer ("we can take USA everyday") is European snobbery and looking at the past rather than the present. We not an elite team, but we're good enough to threaten beating most teams.



ohh it's snobbery, but 'we can take USA everyday' doesn't exactly
say we are going to defeat them everyday.

BTW, if there's one sport people from Europe (and Africa and South America and Asia) should be snobs about to the USA, it's soccer. You already win all the other games, even the Tour de France! With american reporters saying Lance Armstrong isn't much an athlete because cycling isn't hard to do! ''If he's really an athlete he should cary another person on his back while biking the mountains''.
Now that's snobbery. Of course I'm not saying that you think that, you seem to be a good person. Besides I wish the USA all the best at the WC. You would make a decent runner up, next to Oranje!


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  22:58:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Ireland won't be going!

"Join the Honeycult!"
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  00:17:30  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As always, I pull for Sweden all the way!

Nothing is ever something.
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  04:19:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, don't forget about the home team! Carried by the enthusiasm of millions of supporters and with the new and innovative coaching of Jürgen Klinsmann, last WC's finalist is surely a team to be reckoned with.
Plus the german team is allways a grower, when it comes to tournaments (Ok, maybe not during the last EC, but still...).
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  04:29:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I blame Germany for Scotland not qualifying.


That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.

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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  04:32:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hehe, good old Berti.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  04:56:31  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
See that? Do ya?
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1660577,00.html

"England are second-best in world behind Brazil, says Fifa"


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  05:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance

the USA were next in the seeding list, with Holland after that.


That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.





So how come they end up in Pot 4 (well obviously I do know)? I don't agree with how they do this.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  05:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

USA were arguing for a seeding. Don't make me laugh.




Keep laughing. Someday it shall be ours, just like the Tour de France.



just like the 1950 World Cup match when we clobbered the UK, making them cry like little baby men



Clobbered. Good word son!


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  05:30:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

I don't think Ukraine are that great either.


Denis

"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!"



Never be so sure whilst Andrei is on such form.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  05:31:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

I'll go for Brazil, Ronaldiño it's god.




....and Adriano, and Kaka, and Ronaldo, and Robinho..............


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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  06:03:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

I'll go for Brazil, Ronaldiño it's god.




....and Adriano, and Kaka, and Ronaldo, and Robinho..............


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place




that's right!
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  06:19:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance

the USA were next in the seeding list, with Holland after that.


That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.





we can take USA everyday
really
I don't want to be all nationalistic and stuff
that would be stupid
but our soccer team
(we are talking about soccer right)
is great
Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Arjen Robben, Phillip Cocu, Dirk Kuyt, Edwin van de Sar, Rafael van der Vaart, Robin van Persie. Great players


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The problem with Holland is they always play beautiful fotball but never make it to the semi finals.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  12:15:11  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ai? Semi final in 1998 (WC), 2000 (EC), 2004 (EC), final in 1974 and 1978 (WC)



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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  12:19:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really wanted you to win in the semi-final in 2004, just because you were playing Portugal. (Weren't you?)

"The arc of triumph"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  14:02:08  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yes, we lost



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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2005 :  13:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only team that will beat or draw Brazil is Argentina and the only team close to either of those two clubs is Germany and that is only because they have the home crowd advantage.
Brazil should be even money to win the tournament with Argentina coming in at 8/5 and the rest of the pack far behind. That is my opinion anyways.

Countercultivating Midnights
This world's a fuckin' stripmall!
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1117 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2005 :  14:15:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any of the big teams on paper have a great chance. It's just a matter of who gets the right blend in the team at that time. My money would go on Brazil or Argentina to win but I have a feeling it will be Argentina and for Riquelme, Tevez and Messi to be their outstanding performers. As for England, they're victims of their own hype. I feel sorry for Sven because he has done an amazing job for England. He lost one qualifying game and that isn't acceptable?! Crazy! I don't think it will come down to dodgy refereeing decisions, penalties, formation, Sven or any of those excuses. I think that in the past it has never dawned on the media that maybe England just weren't good enough, that they didnt have that last pieces of skill or inspiration that seperated them from the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Italy and France of recent times. In saying that though, this England team is the best in my lifetime I've seen. However I still feel they are a couple of truly inspirational players short of being on the same level as Brazil or Argentina. As for next manager, whoever comes in will have a hard time replacing Sven, I find it very hypocritical that so many people are against him even though he has a proven record and has won the Serie A with Lazio in his past.
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  04:18:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, tonight's the night! Heidi is inviting you all to Leipzig to witness the World Cup draw.

It starts at 20.30 local time with a 50 minutes show program. Let's skip that.

Then we got ten minutes of a FIFA official explaining the rules of the draw.
Wich at last takes place from 21.31 till 21.53.

Featuring:

Roger Milla at pot 1
Johan Cruyff at pot 2
Pelé at pot 3 and
Lothar Matthäus at pot 4

Christian Karembeu, Lucas Radebe, Masashi Nakayama und Cobi Jones are to determine the position of the teams within their groups. Well, at least for positions 2-4, the top position beeing reserved for the seeded teams.

Good luck everyone!
I keep my fingers crossed. May someone else have to deal with Portugal, Holland or the Czech Republic in their groups...
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  04:58:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BrendanT

The only team that will beat or draw Brazil is Argentina and the only team close to either of those two clubs is Germany

Countercultivating Midnights
This world's a fuckin' stripmall!



Clubs?! I am sorry but we are going to have to dismimss your opinion based upon that comment.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  05:01:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10

Any of the big teams on paper have a great chance. It's just a matter of who gets the right blend in the team at that time. My money would go on Brazil or Argentina to win but I have a feeling it will be Argentina and for Riquelme, Tevez and Messi to be their outstanding performers. As for England, they're victims of their own hype. I feel sorry for Sven because he has done an amazing job for England. He lost one qualifying game and that isn't acceptable?! Crazy! I don't think it will come down to dodgy refereeing decisions, penalties, formation, Sven or any of those excuses. I think that in the past it has never dawned on the media that maybe England just weren't good enough, that they didnt have that last pieces of skill or inspiration that seperated them from the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Italy and France of recent times. In saying that though, this England team is the best in my lifetime I've seen. However I still feel they are a couple of truly inspirational players short of being on the same level as Brazil or Argentina. As for next manager, whoever comes in will have a hard time replacing Sven, I find it very hypocritical that so many people are against him even though he has a proven record and has won the Serie A with Lazio in his past.



England have lots of inspirational players. All moulded into one footballer. Wayne Rooney ; )


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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  05:50:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What does "dismimss" mean? I think I will have to dismiss your comment due to a technical difficulty!
Should I call them social sporting units or member supported squads or just simply and very plainly teams? I still choose to call them clubs. I have forgotten to mention how Spain will qualify through their group, draw a weaker side in the first round and lose disappointedly. Always the same ol' story for the Spaniards.

Where is Canada?
Concentrating on the IIHF tournament at the moment.
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by BrendanT

The only team that will beat or draw Brazil is Argentina and the only team close to either of those two clubs is Germany

Countercultivating Midnights
This world's a fuckin' stripmall!



Clubs?! I am sorry but we are going to have to dismimss your opinion based upon that comment.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place




Countercultivating Midnights
This world's a fuckin' stripmall!
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  05:59:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about calling them national teams?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  06:11:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That will do. Certainly not clubs :P


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  12:26:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has the draw started? I'm trying to watch it live on ESPN.soccernet. Anyone else watching. It's so exciting to see where each club gets placed (it's a joke monkey).
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  12:29:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yep, watching now. Having to suffer all the English hyperbole ;)

It is pretty exciting though:
My prediction for England............Holland, Ecuador & Japan.

[edit] - draw hasn't started yet


That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.


Edited by - Llamadance on 12/09/2005 12:30:00
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  12:34:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do they do it Hollywood style? A few risque dance numbers, perhaps some Scorpions, and the draws are performed by Kermit the Frog? When is the draw likely to start? I'm debating whether I should actually start working here at work.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  12:41:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There has been a German magician as well as Heidi Klum.

The draw is being performed by Pele, Roger Milla (Cameroon),Cruyff, Karembeau (sp?), Cobi Jones and a few others.

Will start in a few minutes


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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  12:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My prediction gone already :(


That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.

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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  13:10:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The groups:

GROUP A
Germany
Costa Rica
Poland
Ecuador

GROUP B
England
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
Sweden

GROUP C
Argentina
Ivory Coast
Serbia & Montenegro
Holland

GROUP D
Mexico
Iran
Angola
Portugal

GROUP E
Italy
Ghana
USA
Czech Republic

GROUP F
Brazil
Croatia
Australia
Japan

GROUP G
France
Switzerland
South Korea
Togo

GROUP H
Spain
Ukraine
Tunisia
Saudi Arabia




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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  13:18:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ouch, the US didn't do too well. Is C the most stacked? H or G the weakest?

Edited by - darwin on 12/09/2005 13:20:43
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  13:27:32  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
G is the weakest, France are lucky.

I'm satisfied with Sweden's group - they should have to run a little but will have no trouble getting through the group.

Nothing is ever something.
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  13:28:22  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Also, I would nominate E as the toughest group.

Nothing is ever something.
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