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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  05:19:59  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought it was time to start the World Cup thread. The seeded teams have been determined today and are as follows:

Brazil
England
Spain
Germany
Mexico
France
Argentina
Italy

I was hoping for a France-Mexico in the group matches so I'm a bit disappointed. I'll try to get tickets to see Mexico play so I hope they'll be lucky on the draw.


Denis

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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  05:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not really sure this is of any interest. Maybe I'll honour the auld alliance and support France for a month.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:03:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frankly, I am disappointed that Homers was not the first person to respond to this thread. Surprised, too.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:06:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only just read it now Kiki.

Anywho, I am surprised at Mexico's seeding.

Who do you think will win it Denis?


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:08:32  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
USA were arguing for a seeding. Don't make me laugh.

Looking at those teams right now, I see no reason why Brazil shouldn't sweep it again.


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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:17:48  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mexico will win, no doubt about it. That is, if the FIFA stops doing doping control.


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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:19:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure if they got rid of Sven, then England would have a good chance of at least making it to the semi's. As it is, like Cheeseman said, Brazil favourites, with Argentina and Italy in the mix.

Simon, slightly off topic, but er...Southampton? Redknapp? Thoughts?


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:24:02  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Seriously, don't start me... How classy is it to join a club as manager, get them relegated (aside from Liverpool, the team who was last relegated longest ago), find you're struggling in the new season, bail on your team, try and go back to the club you acrimoniously split from before, then try and bow and scrape your way back there, only to be turned down by your old boss.

We'll trade: you can have Harry Redknapp, we'll have Strach back.

Actually, our caretaker team is Dave Bassett and Dennis Wise, I can live with that.


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Llamadance
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:30:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:D I thought that's how you would feel. It's pretty shambolic, and yes, I thought Redknapp would have more class than that. He should be ashamed.

No trade. Strachan has got us playing good, fast, passing football and improved the fitness of the players. He's done fantastically well with the younger players coming through also. I think a lot of Celtic fans have been won over (helped by a tragedy of a Rangers team :D)


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pixiestu
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:52:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just out of interest, who would be a good replacement for Sven?

"The arc of triumph"
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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  06:54:36  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Harry Redknapp.

Grumble grumble, moan moan.


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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  07:16:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Enland have any chance of winning the world cup. I'd put my money on Argentina.

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Llamadance
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  07:55:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu

Just out of interest, who would be a good replacement for Sven?

"The arc of triumph"



Flippantly, I guess anyone who can motivate players, plays to the strengths of the team and can implement different tactics as required.

Realistically, I really don't know. Some poeple want Big Sam, Stuart Pearce has been mentioned, maybe Curbishley. I think it'll be an English manager next.


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pixiestu
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  08:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't mind seeing Big Sam as the next England manager (if only to send Bolton on the slide), or Curbishley, but I think it's too early for Pearce.

As long as they keep their hands off Paul Jewell I don't mind!

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  08:04:01  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The netherlands played ok in the qualificationgames
I think they can make it to at least the semi-final
(like in 1998, and at the Euro 2000 and 2004 cup)


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  09:37:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only reason England won't win it will be either down to bad luck, bad penalites or bad referring decisions. The usual story then.

Actually, I said back in 2000 that we would win the 2006. If we do now, I will be gutted that I didn't put some money on it.


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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  11:04:51  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
or a bad decision by David Beckham? Red card?


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  12:19:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd put my money on Brazil. They have the most impressive line up I have (almost) ever seen.


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darwin
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  12:20:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

USA were arguing for a seeding. Don't make me laugh.




Keep laughing. Someday it shall be ours, just like the Tour de France.
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Llamadance
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  12:42:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the USA were next in the seeding list, with Holland after that.


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Llamadance
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  12:45:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's the pots for the draw on Friday.

POT ONE
Germany (hosts)
Brazil (holders)
Argentina
England
France
Italy
Mexico
Spain

POT TWO
Australia
Angola
Ghana
Ivory Coast
Togo
Tunisia
Ecuador
Paraguay

POT THREE
Croatia
Czech Republic
Netherlands
Poland
Portugal
Sweden
Switzerland
Ukraine

POT FOUR
Iran
Japan
Saudi Arabia
South Korea
Costa Rica
Trinidad & Tobago
US


Special pot: Serbia & Montenegro


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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:07:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

USA were arguing for a seeding. Don't make me laugh.




Keep laughing. Someday it shall be ours, just like the Tour de France.



just like the 1950 World Cup match when we clobbered the UK, making them cry like little baby men
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Llamadance
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:18:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ahem. Not the UK.


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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:25:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wha-eva
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Llamadance
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:37:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*explodes*




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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



that reminds me of 1950
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So are pots 2-4 geographical rather than based on strength?
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:52:33  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance

the USA were next in the seeding list, with Holland after that.


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we can take USA everyday
really
I don't want to be all nationalistic and stuff
that would be stupid
but our soccer team
(we are talking about soccer right)
is great
Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Arjen Robben, Phillip Cocu, Dirk Kuyt, Edwin van de Sar, Rafael van der Vaart, Robin van Persie. Great players


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Llamadance
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:53:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hehe :D

I think I'd have to go back to Bannockburn.


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Llamadance
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:56:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

So are pots 2-4 geographical rather than based on strength?



yes. Serbia & Montegnegro are in a separate pot so that no group has three European nations. They will go in with Brazil, Argentina or Mexico.


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  14:08:47  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd take Togo and Trinidad & Tobago, that'd be nice, but there's no easy ride from the European pot; maybe Poland.


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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  14:12:38  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't think Ukraine are that great either.


Denis

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Llamadance
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  14:13:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd have taken Switzerland over Poland. Can you get Poland if you had them in the qualifying stages?

Worst case would maybe be : Paraguay, US, Netherlands


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darwin
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  14:16:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems a bit unfair that the US is likely to have a tougher draw since they won't get a push over team from pool 4, but we also have easier qualifiying.

I wonder how much of the dismissing of US soccer ("we can take USA everyday") is European snobbery and looking at the past rather than the present. We not an elite team, but we're good enough to threaten beating most teams.
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Llamadance
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  14:21:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, you couldn't beat Scotland.

Much of this is down to Sepp Blatter wanting to give the African nations a good chance of getting through, they were instrumental in his election to FIFA president.

Ach, you have Freddy Adu, don't worry.


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darwin
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  15:37:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're right, we have no chance of beating Scotland in the 2006 WC.
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