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Lester Bangs
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  12:52:32  Show Profile  Visit Lester Bangs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just thinking, Frank has alot of conection to Velvet, he likes the velvet undergound, like David Lynch movies(ie, blue velvet), and has written songs such as Velvety Instrumental Version, Velvety and Another Velvet Nightmare.
Just thinking...

pixiestu
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  13:27:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... Good point but I suppose it's pretty vague.
Unless anyone can think of any other connections to velvet...
Then it could possibly be cosidered a Frank Black cliche!

I wonder what those pajamas are made out of on the inner sleeve of the 'yellow/orange album'?

Probably silk or something, oh well...

"The arc of triumph"
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fbc
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  14:39:28  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote


oh velveteen!
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  14:50:36  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's always seemed to me that he uses velvet as a euphemism for a feminine figure of sexual desire; sometimes it even seems like a direct reference to a particular body part.

There are a number of writers who employ velvet for vaginal references, so maybe my opinion has been tinted, but I still put it forth with utmost confidence.

Nothing is ever something.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  15:40:42  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
'Another Velvet Nightmare'? I don't know the song, but I wonder if FB is a King Crimson fan.. 'One More Red Nightmare', anyone?

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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  16:26:23  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Really good point Mr. Bangs. Perhaps he's like George Costanza and likes to ensconce himself in velvet?



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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  18:32:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's a nice combination, "velvet nightmare". Something soft, smooth and comforting (velvet) but contrasted with a nightmare. Not something you'd associate together. However it conjures up images of a nightmare where things aren't as they seem...in dreams and nightmares things always are different. I had a nightmare once where everything was in blue except for the outline of things (eg people, furniture, doors, the sun, the sky etc) which was in white. So maybe FB is trapped in this velvet nightmare world. However it's what the velvet signifies. Again going back to the soft, comfort of velvet which could be associated with a previous lover so as a result our hero is trapped in a velvet nightmare world, a kingdom which maybe used to be a nice dream in the past, is now a bleak shadowy underworld with fuzzy velvet crush and dark deep sisnister connotations.
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