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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:06:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what can i say i try


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:08:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know it's a cliche, but isn't it confusing being bisexual? It's such a relief to tune out one gender. How do you deal with two?


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <

4209 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:11:03  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm attracted to a person not a gender. Sometimes it's sexual sometimes it isn't.

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:12:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
basically if a meet a girl i like and she likes me ill go out with her and vice versa with males.i dont go out looking to meet one specific gender, but sadly males my age havent quite come to terms with there sexuality yet so iv been with more females


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:17:43  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sorry to turn this thread into bisexual q&a, but dave, do you see yourself settling down with a man or a woman in the future? or do you see yourself not settling down? or do you have no clue?

-Brian

If you move I shoots!

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:18:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your interesting posts, Marsist and Surfer.

Sometimes I feel like a freak -- nearly all my friends have had some kind of attraction or experience with their own gender whereas I am clueless to that possibility.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:23:22  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oh, i don't think i would ever have ANY experience with a man. i'm not attracted at all, but i can say that guy a is attractive or whatever. and if i wanted to, i have a surprisingly high number of good gay friends, i'm sure they could set me up with someone. but that doesn't appeal to me at all.

however, 90% of women i know admit to wanting to experiment with a woman.

-Brian

If you move I shoots!

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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:23:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
as nic said its the person not the gender so i dnt really give a fuck whether or not "the one" is male or female.

its good to talk about this my friends still dont know i play for both sides


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
607 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:27:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

Thanks for your interesting posts, Marsist and Surfer.

Sometimes I feel like a freak -- nearly all my friends have had some kind of attraction or experience with their own gender whereas I am clueless to that possibility.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank




I have to say that I am with you on that one Kathryn. Being with the same gender is just not anything I have been curious about or put any thought into. Not to mention I am absolutely more satisified with my husband and my sexual relationship than I ever thought imagineable. Perhaps I am just old fashioned in many ways, but I just can't think of having sex with anybody else....same gender or otherwise.
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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:30:25  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
dave, do you plan on letting your friends in on it, or no? it took one of my best friends YEARS to come out to me, but it was because his boyfriend (who i am also friends with) was so uncomfortable with it. he was ready from a young age, but his boyfriend's family is insanely conservative and old fasioned, and his grandmother, in front of them (but clearly not knowing whats going on) has said "i hate faggots"

-Brian

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:34:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face


90% of women i know admit to wanting to experiment with a woman.



It's not that I am not admitting anything. It's that a big part of my identity is how I feel when I am with a guy, and I don't mean how I feel sexually. I know it sounds neanderthalish and unenlightened, I know we are people first, I know it's about the person, not the gender ... but I can't imagine how I'd relate to a woman. I am sure I could figure out the sex part, but not the relating part. If that makes sense.


quote:
Originally posted by The Marsist


its good to talk about this my friends still dont know i play for both sides



I trust that you will increasingly feel open with this part of yourself. Perhaps it will come with age, as sexual honesty tends to. Best of luck.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:37:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
iv thougth about telling them but im living in glasgow now and when i do move back (in 2 weeks) il only be there for a week before im of to college so i dnt see any point.i did tell my best friend though and he was cool but he just doesnt like talking about it


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:39:04  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
as he gets older i'm sure he'll get more comfortable talking about it. that is one reason why i was glad i was older when i found out my friend was gay, b/c we're at the point in our lives where really nothing is taboo to talk about, and we can be honest and discuss it and its not awkward. even though i'd have been fine with it at 15, i can tell we wouldn't really joke about it or discuss it in a non-awkward way.

-Brian

If you move I shoots!


Edited by - Broken Face on 08/11/2005 12:39:45
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!!! WHAT'S WIRE HANGERS DOING IN THIS CLOSET??!!!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  18:15:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hehehe that wire hanger thing is funny.

Ok I wouldn't have oral sex or touching below the waist.... but I would kiss....

Jennifer Aniston for my husband's viewing pleasure.

Or if I could go back in time Anais Yin because she seemed so feminine and in touch with her sexuality

"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  21:29:36  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have no problems with heterosexual people, or homosexual... but bisexual.. thats just greedy!

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <

4209 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  00:42:28  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

I have no problems with heterosexual people, or homosexual... but bisexual.. thats just greedy!

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!



that's just jealousy!

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  00:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could argue that bisexuality is a purer attraction, in that it's more about the person/personality than about whether the person has a great ass.


No power in the 'verse can stop me

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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  05:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Strictly, being bisexual is not wanting to know what you prefer. For some it's like "Yeah! I am an esthete, I can do it with anyone, it's glamourous and rock'n roll to be bi" Those who laud that I believe are homosexual but want to think there is ill a case of normality for them. They fool themselves.
Bisexual people are often narcissistic. they do it with the others just for the pleasure of imagining themselves in situation they make up. They want to remain the main character. They are in the mere actor's craft. So much that they can be sexually active with anyone (anything?). They actually don't have real sex in term of spiritual exchange and end-up blasé or au contraire totally fucked up. I personnaly am narcissistic, what I described is what I am. I am aware of that and just try not to hurt too much people with this feeling. It's hard, for I do not consider people I have relations with as actual people anymore. Once I fuck with them, they become "people I fucked, people I saw myself having fucked". And I lose interest quickly for it is only me that matters and for some reasons I despise people that surrendered to me... too easily. love that matters these days are impossible loves. Loves that would be fatal and radical, Loves that would generate death. This is the only trigger for inspiration. A love that would and should never happen. I am suffering though it is quite a thrill to experience this very very human feeling.

Love inside out for all!!!

GROSSE FLEUR DE LYS!!!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  06:29:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance

You could argue that bisexuality is a purer attraction, in that it's more about the person/personality than about whether the person has a great ass.


No power in the 'verse can stop me





I guess you could argue then that an even purer attraction would be for a bisexual who is into beastiality.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  06:33:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i love you, monkey.

everyone says they're bi now. biggest trend in decades.

edit: i'd probably sleep with winona ryder. she has a pretty impressive sexual resume, i'd use it as an opportunity to pretend i'm having sex with johnny depp or jack white or beck.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.

Edited by - dayanara on 08/12/2005 06:40:24
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  06:59:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance

You could argue that bisexuality is a purer attraction, in that it's more about the person/personality than about whether the person has a great ass.


No power in the 'verse can stop me





I guess you could argue then that an even purer attraction would be for a bisexual who is into beastiality.




It took me ten reads to even begin to think I got that.


No power in the 'verse can stop me

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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to say that being bi is the biggest trend in decades is complete and utter bollocks it took me quite some time to come to terms with my sexuality and to say that im only bi cause its trendy is one of the biggest insults i can think of. at first i was ashamed to admit that i was bi sexual and that was a rough few months of hating myself and being completly miserable but now that i can accept it i think i am a better person for it.so abyone who thinks that my sexual preferance is only to be "trendy" can fuck off.and here i thought thta this was a good place to talk to open minded people.


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:15:07  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i don't think anyone here was accusing you of being trendy. i hope that we did not offend. i think a lot of times on these types of places its hard to distinguish humor from seriousness. i hope no one was trying to offend you.

-Brian

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sure Dayanara distinguishes between drunk girls in bars blithely making out for the guys' benefit and just for kicks (which does seem a recent trend)
versus true bisexuals struggling with identity and self-acceptance.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope your message, Marsist, does not refer to mine. Otherwise it was totally misunderstood...

GROSSE FLEUR DE LYS!!!
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One Who Hath Swum
- FB Fan -

78 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:20:24  Show Profile  Visit One Who Hath Swum's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If I was gay for a day (as if I needed a reason) it would be a Floop, El Barto Sandwich for me, thank you very much.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:26:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

I hope your message, Marsist, does not refer to mine. Otherwise it was totally misunderstood...


no i was atually referring to dayanaras post, sorry i should have qouted


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  07:41:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good, I know what you mean... But try not to be too much bitter. Those who do not understand cannot be blamed. To understand all that is to having lived that, and it is not something easy to deal with. Some never come back. If you have a brother you wish he will be straigh and normal and hope he'll never go through the same troubles as yours. I'm glad for ignorants though, yes, they can hurt sometimes...

GROSSE FLEUR DE LYS!!!
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  08:44:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whats to understand? It's black and white, don't color it.
Some people like the opposite sex in bed. Some people like the same sex in bed. Some people like both in bed. Some don't like the bed period. And after all this is said and done, we still ALL fall asleep.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  08:50:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

Strictly, being bisexual is not wanting to know what you prefer. For some it's like "Yeah! I am an esthete, I can do it with anyone, it's glamourous and rock'n roll to be bi" Those who laud that I believe are homosexual but want to think there is ill a case of normality for them. They fool themselves.
Bisexual people are often narcissistic. they do it with the others just for the pleasure of imagining themselves in situation they make up. They want to remain the main character. They are in the mere actor's craft. So much that they can be sexually active with anyone (anything?). They actually don't have real sex in term of spiritual exchange and end-up blasé or au contraire totally fucked up. I personnaly am narcissistic, what I described is what I am. I am aware of that and just try not to hurt too much people with this feeling. It's hard, for I do not consider people I have relations with as actual people anymore. Once I fuck with them, they become "people I fucked, people I saw myself having fucked". And I lose interest quickly for it is only me that matters and for some reasons I despise people that surrendered to me... too easily. love that matters these days are impossible loves. Loves that would be fatal and radical, Loves that would generate death. This is the only trigger for inspiration. A love that would and should never happen. I am suffering though it is quite a thrill to experience this very very human feeling.

Love inside out for all!!!

GROSSE FLEUR DE LYS!!!



...and to this, all I have to say is 'WHATEVER'.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  08:50:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

Some don't like the bed period.



C'mon! Everybody likes the bed.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  10:14:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Marsist

to say that being bi is the biggest trend in decades is complete and utter bollocks it took me quite some time to come to terms with my sexuality and to say that im only bi cause its trendy is one of the biggest insults i can think of. at first i was ashamed to admit that i was bi sexual and that was a rough few months of hating myself and being completly miserable but now that i can accept it i think i am a better person for it.so abyone who thinks that my sexual preferance is only to be "trendy" can fuck off.and here i thought thta this was a good place to talk to open minded people.


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black





oh good god. clearly i should have put a little disclaimer before my post. i'm sure not everyone who defineslves as bi is doing it to be cool, ok? let's all just settle down. i didn't say everyone is bi, but that they're calling themselves that. among certain crowds it is very trendy to claim it when it couldn't be farther from the truth, like it or not.

everywhere i go there are girls, teens to thirties usually, climbing all over other women for male attention. when i was in college i couldn't escape it. they don't do it because they're sexually attracted to the other woman, they do it because they think it's cute and it gets the guys all riled up. see daisy's reference of "jennifer aniston for my husband's viewing pleasure." it's gotten to the point where men come to expect this behavior and it grates on my last nerve.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  10:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i see what your saying and it was just a misunderstanding so i apoligise for my rant, sorry


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2005 :  10:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
accepted.

are we allowed to post pics of hot women in this thread? it's on topic. brian - you have 30 minutes to respond before winona shows up.


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