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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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 Posted - 08/20/2005 : 07:24:26
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| You darn liberals like to get all sarcastic, don'tcha? Just remember, this world was'nt built on sarcasm! It was built on war! |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 08/20/2005 : 08:59:48
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But is sarcasm ever justifiable?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 08/22/2005 : 09:53:04
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| Yes, it is, of course, for crying out loud, of course it is!! |
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One Who Hath Swum
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Posted - 08/22/2005 : 09:55:42
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| Torture is justified if she asks for it and pays the correct amount into my man-whore account. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 08/22/2005 : 11:45:23
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Is it ever justifiable to torch her, though?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/22/2005 : 12:54:36
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Originally posted by VoVat
But is sarcasm ever justifiable?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
If it isn't then pretty everything that comes out of my mouth is unjustified. |
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Mass Pleeze
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 08/22/2005 : 22:16:39
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Originally posted by Llamadance
As most of you may know, the four men suspected of the failed suicide bombings in London last week have been arrested. Obviously the authorities will be hoping to get information from them. But what if they don't talk voluntarily?
Is there a moral obligation to get as much information from suspects as is possible - so to better protect people. Or is the moral obligation to follow the letter of the law. (maybe this is all a bit 24)
Also what is torture? Is it just physical - electric shocks maybe; or is mental torture worse - sleep deprivation etc. Do you find one of these more acceptable than the other?
Lots of side issues I guess, so fire away.
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No power in the 'verse can stop me
Say you are a CIA field commander and you have Mohammad Atta in custody on 9-01-2001. CID intelligence knows he is a really bad guy and that he knows a little about flying jumbo jets. Where could his megalomaniacal, martyr seeking pals be - under what rock? Ehhh?
What do we do? Hindsight is twenty twenty but what the fuck do we do with this human piece of buffalo dung? Ehhh? Anyone care to ask NYPD or NYFD or Rudy?
Does this clarify our ethical dilemma? What would Franz Kafka do?
Mr. Grieves likes Manchester Utd?
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/23/2005 : 02:24:35
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There's an article here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/22/civil_libs_ditch/
which quotes a survey as saying "62 per cent of respondents were in favour of deporting foreign radical Islamists, even if that deportation was to a country that used torture. Only 19 per cent directly opposed this idea."
Which is kind of a passive acceptance of torture. Haven't found the quoted survey yet.
No power in the 'verse can stop me
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2005 : 05:34:27
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 08/23/2005 : 13:50:21
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What would Franz Kafka do?
Turn him into a cockroach?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
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Posted - 08/23/2005 : 14:04:09
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Well I'm sure everone in Camp Xray feels like K in The Trial.
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Is torture ever justifiable?
