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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:16:28
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Unfortunately I live in a country where BBC is banned so I cannot see the news as it is happening.... as much as I give shit to our fucked up government, I wish the best for the people caught up in this dreadful situation... people don't deserve to go through this wherever they are.
that is amazing.
we should all be grateful for the ability to know as much of the facts as we do
EDIT: (feel like a lawyer a little) let me rephrase - I feel grateful for that ability and in no way did I mean to imply that others are not grateful for anything.
death toll at 37, let's hope and pray it doesn't gain numbers exponentially as some say it may.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:33:17
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| I'm glad everybody is ok. It says something about the power of this group (to me at least) and its international scope that after hearing about the bombings from my wife I first checked a standard yahoo news story and then came here to get a more local and personal perspective. It's sappy but this forum makes me feel more connected to the rest of the world. |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:38:11
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I feel the same way darwin. I went to bbc news and here. I can rely on word from locals and from minds from across the globe and across the politcal spectrum. Thank you, fb.net.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 13:33:10
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I'm with you two...the first folks I thought of were family/friends who just came back from London last week (don't know why--they're home safe--I guess just knee-jerk rxn) but then i thought--the brits on fb.net!! better go check the forum. turn off cnn. walks to computer. checks board. posts. worries.
the emergency personnel, bless them, seem to really have taken care of business in a hurry. Those people are amazing...thank goodness for them.
did anyone see the made-for-tv "Dirty War" on the BBC? they showed it on pbs stations over here in the States. events in that film also went through my mind after i heard the news this morning...the emergency response folks really shone in that film...anyway--just a random thought.
thanks for the personal stories, again, kitten...
take care you guys!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 14:10:38
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Originally posted by Little Black Francis
I was not being sarcastic, maybe a dumbass, or I unintentionally seemed sarcastic, but I wasn't
I was being serious, sad as that may sound
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
Good to know that LBF 
well.. it seems that Denmark and Italy are the next targets. I hope (we all hope) nothing else happens, just Peace
I'll be in Rome in just over a week. I feel safe though. I doubt they will attack again so soon. Then again, what does anyone know?
Don't believe the type!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 14:22:03
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Eerie day, really was.
I've only just got in now, we were let out of work early, so what else does a true Brit do? Go to the pub and watch the news there, of course.
I can't describe sitting at work trying to get something done and just not being able to concentrate because in the back of your mind is the thought that maybe there's something else coming. We were let go at 2pm, but nobody wanted to go and sit at home on their own.
I've heard so many stories of people like Tre's friend, who just happened to be late or early today and missed the fatal train. It's all more than you can really take in.
You hear about this in Iraq all the time and think nothing of it, but it really makes you think when a bomb killed 21 two stops from where you get off.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 14:26:11
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I too checked here immediately after hearing the news this morning. Glad to know those that have checked in from the London area are ok!
I wonder, since London has such a large surveillance net now, if there were cameras in the Underground that may have caught anything useful. Does anyone know if the data collected is saved indefinitely so that they can go back and check? Or is it a daily process of checking?
My best wishes and thoughts go out to all of you in the aftermath. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 14:47:57
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Thanks Jen. They do have cameras in the underground, I'm sure they'll be checking them. I think the security and response so far has been unquestionably excellent, I'm very proud of our emergency services - I'm sure this would have been a lot worse without them. I've no doubt that everything that could be done was, and that there will be thorough investigations.
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 15:19:24
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All my Brothers and Sisters "in Frank" from London and Great Britain are in my thoughts and prayers...
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astrology
= Cult of Ray =
Saint Lucia
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 15:52:04
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i am very sorry for this thing, reminds me of what happened in my country last year. I prefer not to make a political issue of this tragedy, but there are many things that dont fit.
Although I write in spanish, in my blog there are many links to websites in english with an alternative view. fell free to check them.
I'm a pistolero, i'm not shakin in my boots
I'm the ruler of this moon, if u move I shoots
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 16:15:57
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wow... i am glad it seems as though everyone's ok...
i heard on my local news that they're stepping up security on buses and trains here. adding 2 24 hour patrols of bomb sniffing dogs... et al...
i am so sorry this terrible thing happened to london, such a beautiful city...
hope life gets back to "normal" soon... |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 18:23:50
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The bus that expoloded is the bus that my friend catches to uni every morning, this morning he decided to go buy DVD's indtead and go to uni late. I have been crying mostly since I found this out.
Today two muslim girls at my university told my asian friend not to walk with them because people would think she is muslim, they say people have already started staring. It makes me sick, people are so fucking stupid. Islam is not the problem.
I hope you guys are feeling better. I think it's sad that people react like that to the Muslim community, every time something like this occurs. And Erebus, there are extremists in every culture. Bush is as extreme as Bin Laden, in his own way. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 19:11:04
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Originally posted by Carl
I hope you guys are feeling better. I think it's sad that people react like that to the Muslim community, every time something like this occurs. And Erebus, there are extremists in every culture. Bush is as extreme as Bin Laden, in his own way.
Extremists everywhere, just some better at blowing up innocent people.
And the Bush-Bin Laden thing is spent. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 07/07/2005 : 19:18:17
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Originally posted by Erebus
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Originally posted by Carl
I hope you guys are feeling better. I think it's sad that people react like that to the Muslim community, every time something like this occurs. And Erebus, there are extremists in every culture. Bush is as extreme as Bin Laden, in his own way.
Extremists everywhere, just some better at blowing up innocent people.
And the Bush-Bin Laden thing is spent.
If you're willing to accept that point then, what do you mean by "better"? Surely our own military and intelligence has killed many innocents in the form of "collateral damage" or through covert operations that kill innocents and spur revolts and uprisings, and not usually for humanitarian reasons. It's not so cut and dry.
Sorry for carrying this thread into further sidetrack discussion, but this is an interesting point. Maybe it's better to move it all to another thread. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 07/08/2005 : 01:49:57
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As Jen said, would you mind putting the politics in another thread? I have the day off work today, and I've been sitting watching the news this morning. It's now exactly 24 hours since the bus blew up on Tavistock Square and they're showing camera-phone videos from that event.
It would be nice if we could keep somewhere free from bickering, just out of respect if nothing else.
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/08/2005 : 02:00:47
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In my humble opinion, we can say that Islam is not the problem and so on...
But there is a war that will last for a very long time. The ground is Islamism and the Holy War.
The more occidental powers will wait, the more the tragic solution will hurt...
There is only one way to get rid of this sickness, I'm afraid...
We all know... And I am not responsible for that...
Dare think about it. Such things should not happen, do they?
Thank You.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
871 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 02:06:30
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Good to see you're ok Simon (+ other fb.net Londoners).
Horrifying stuff - it's the 21st Century and the world is not a happy place. I have a feeling akin to depression today and that is not like me at all.
The empty rhetoric spouted by the world's leaders is the thing that frightens me the most. I see no end to the death and destruction and it appears that al-Qaeda can strike whenever and wherever it wants to.
I started reading this book earlier this week:-
The Party's Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies
Richard Heinberg
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/09/2005 : 20:22:19
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The morning after the London bombings, the NYTimes published this op-ed by Ian McEwan, whose latest novel is about terror-striken Londers.
The Surprise We Expected
By Ian McEWAN
London -- The mood of a city has never swung so sharply. On Wednesday there was no better place on earth. After the victory of the Olympic decision in Singapore, Londoners were celebrating the prospect of an explosion of new energy and creativity; those computer-generated images of futuristic wonderlands rising out of derelict quarters and poisoned industrial wastelands were actually going to be built.
The echoes of rock and roll in Hyde Park and its wave of warm and fundamentally decent emotions were only just fading. In Gleneagles, Scotland, the Group of 8 summit meeting was about to address at least - and at last - the core of the world's concerns, and we could take some satisfaction that our government had pushed the agenda. London was flying and we moved confidently about the city - the paranoia after Sept. 11 and Madrid was mostly forgotten and no one had second thoughts about taking the tube. The "war on terror," that much examined trope, was an exhausted rallying cry, with all the appearance of a moth-eaten regimental banner in a village church.
But terror's war on us opened another front on Thursday morning. It announced itself with a howl of sirens from every quarter, and the oppressive drone of police helicopters. Along the Euston Road, by the new University College Hospital - a green building rising above us like a giant surgeon in scrubs - thousands of people stood around watching ambulances filing nose to tail through the stalled traffic into the casualty department.
The police were fanning out through Bloomsbury, closing streets at both ends even as you were halfway down them. The machinery of state, a great Leviathan, certain of its authority, moved with balletic coordination. Those rehearsals for a multiple terrorist attack underground were paying off.
In fact, now the disaster was upon us, it had an air of weary inevitability, and it looked familiar, as though it happened long ago. In the drizzle and dim light, the police lines, the emergency vehicles, the silent passers-by appeared as though in an old newsreel film in black and white. The news of the successful Olympic bid was more surprising than this. How could we have forgotten that this was always going to happen?
The mood on the streets was of numb acceptance, or strange calm. People obediently shuffled this way and that, directed round road blocks by a whole new citizens' army of "support" officials - like air raid wardens from the last war. A man in a suit pulled a fluorescent jacket out of his briefcase and began directing traffic with snappy expertise. A woman, with blood covering her face and neck, who had come from the Russell Square tube station, briskly refused offers of help and said she had to get to work. Groups gathered impassively in the road, among the gridlocked traffic, listening through open windows to car radios.
On television, the news programs were having trouble finding the images to match the awfulness of the event. But this was not, or not yet, a public spectacle like New York or Madrid. The nightmare was happening far below our feet. Everyone knew that if the force that mangled the bus in Tavistock Square was contained within the walls of a tunnel, the human cost would be high, and the rescue appallingly difficult.
Down the far end of a closed-off street we saw emergency workers being helped into breathing equipment. We could only guess at the hell to which they must descend, and no one seemed to want to talk about it.
In Auden's famous poem, "Musée des Beaux Arts," the tragedy of Icarus falling from the sky is accompanied by life simply refusing to be disrupted. A plowman goes about his work, a ship "sailed calmly on," dogs keep on with "their doggy life."
In London yesterday, where crowds fumbling with mobile phones tried to find unimpeded ways across the city, there was much evidence of the truth of Auden's insight. While rescue workers searched for survivors and the dead in the smoke-filled blackness below, at pavement level men were loading vans, a woman sold umbrellas in her usual patch, the lunchtime sandwich makers were hard at work.
It is unlikely that London will claim to have been transformed in an instant, to have lost its innocence in the course of a morning. It is hard to knock a huge city like this off its course. It has survived many attacks in the past.
But once we have counted up our dead, and the numbness turns to anger and grief, we will see that our lives here will be difficult. We have been savagely woken from a pleasant dream. The city will not recover Wednesday's confidence and joy in a very long time. Who will want to travel on the Underground once it has been cleared? How will we sit at our ease in a restaurant, cinema or theater? And we will face again that deal we must constantly make and re-make with the state - how much power must we grant Leviathan, how much freedom will we be asked to trade for our security?
Ian McEwan is the author, most recently, of "Saturday."
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/09/2005 : 20:33:37
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Who will want to travel on the Underground once it has been cleared? How will we sit at our ease in a restaurant, cinema or theater? And we will face again that deal we must constantly make and re-make with the state - how much power must we grant Leviathan, how much freedom will we be asked to trade for our security?
Ian McEwan is the author, most recently, of "Saturday."
as far as this line i think you will be pleasantly surprised at how brave we all are, call it routine or faith but everyday i'm proud to ride the PATH with my fellow comuters into the city everyday. you do what you gotta do.
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 07/09/2005 : 21:28:19
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people will get back to their normal lives extremely quickly in London cause thats just the kind of people they are.
having only recently moved from London, my thoughts really are with the huge number of innocent people caught up in this tragedy.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 07/09/2005 : 23:12:54
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hope things continue to get better for you guys over there!
today i came to the realization that it shook me up more than it did... maybe shock and maybe just the fact I tried to keep going bc I don't like to think those mean people can scare me... but it has scared me.
anyway... hope you're all doing better... |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:11:53
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The evacuated the station I work at (Manchester Piccadilly) yesterday because of a bomb scare. It's sad that a some idiots find it funny to make hoax calls after such an event, but I fear this may now happen around the country (I believe there was a scare in Birmingham too).
Don't believe the type!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:27:45
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| Yeah, they carried out a controlled explosion in Birmingham after evacuating the area-apparently the police believe it was'nt a deliberate bomb threat, and had no connection to the London Bombings, it was just some kind of suspect device, or something like that. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:29:15
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Yeah same in Manchester too. It happened in two different areas of the city.
Suspect train package blown up
Bomb disposal experts have carried out a controlled explosion on what was believed to be a suspicious package at Manchester's main rail station.
Manchester Piccadilly was evacuated on Saturday afternoon after luggage left on a train sparked a security alert.
A cordon was set up around the station and all adjacent and surrounding roads were closed. Train services into Piccadilly were temporarily suspended.
Tram and bus services into the station were also disrupted by the alert.
The Army's bomb disposal team from Chester carried out the explosion.
Street cordoned off in bomb alert
A street was cordoned off and several homes had to be evacuated after a suspect package was found on a bus in Greater Manchester.
Officers from the army bomb disposal unit were called to Reddish Lane in Gorton on Friday evening.
A number of roads surrounding the area were closed and residents living nearby were moved away from the area.
Police said a controlled explosion was carried out on the package, which turned out to contain clothing.
The cordon was lifted at about 2230 BST.
Don't believe the type!
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:29:55
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Four controlled explosions on a bus in corporation street outside the square peg pub (there's a lot of paranoia in B'ham anyway after the Birmingham Pub Bombings) and the 'threat' wasn't related to that apparantly.
and you're questioning the sciences
and questioning religion
you're looking like an idiot
and you no longer care.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:33:38
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| No way, Manchester to?! Did'nt hear about that. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:42:32
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I think we may have to get used to it.
I am just glad it happened at the weekend and not whilst I was in work. Would have been a bit scary no doubt.
Don't believe the type!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 09:31:04
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| sorry to hear this latest news guys. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 20:11:24
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| with all that you have on your mind after a terrorist attack don't forget to look both ways when crossing the street, it's easy to forget the little things that keep you in one piece. peace. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 18:02:43
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Wow, more bombs in London! I'll be praying for peace and all that it encompasses for a while. Relived to hear there were no injuries. Too bad that's seldom the case.
I don't mean this with any disrespect to anyone's misery, but,...
"Why can't we all just get along?" Rodney King after the rioting in L.A. that was sparked by his ass-kicking.
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Newo
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Spain
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 05:20:18
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Metropolitan Police handout photo via Associated Press shows a CCTV image of left to right Hasib Hussain, Germaine Lindsay (dark cap), Mohammed Sidique Khan (light cap) and Shahzad Tanweer, the four suspected London suicide bombers, arriving at Luton train station at 07:21 on July 07. The guy in the light cap has one arm behind a railing that is supposedly a few feet behind him and some of the pixels of his head mix in with the upper railing. Cause city hall all are freaks...
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 05:30:06
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So, be explicit! What do you want to underline?
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 05:35:22
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Don´t believe the hype
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 05:38:53
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X
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