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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:08:05  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Who else is from London... is PixieSteve??

All my thoughts to you...

Good luck getting home too... it looks like all the buses are not working and I am guessing the underground is not working as well.

Now it looks like on the map there were seven bombings...



Yeah thats gonna be fucked up as alot of people commute to London from way out of the city.... and taxis are seriously expensive in the capital!

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:11:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only heard about this before 1.00. Hope all forum members in the London area are okay. It was going to happen eventually, I suppose, although the oraganisation that carried this out has not been confirmed yet, so we can't just assume it was Al Queda. Pretty shocking. It's interesting that it happens when Bush is in Britain, although of course they could have attacked the G8 summit. I wonder if the fact that Tony Blair was away from London was meant as some kind of 'Don't let your guard down' kind of message. I thought that it probably was'nt Al Queda, because they'd probably carry out a bigger attack, but then I heard there were 4 bombs. And of course, it's a blessing that more people wer'nt killed. So, you know, it could be. Let's just hope that better security measures are taken in future.

Edited by - Carl on 07/07/2005 06:15:27
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edwina
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
179 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:38:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

uhm, our (austria) state secretary for internal affairs talks of more than 100 people killed in london. don't know where they have the information from, but i don't think they would say something like this if they weren't sure.


I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band



From the Guardian, 2.24 p.m.: "Suddenly, the terrible scale of today's attack becomes clear. Ambulance sources suggest 23 people have been killed at King's Cross, nine at Edgware road, seven at Aldgate, two at Russell Square. There are hundreds - possibly more than a thousand - injured."
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:44:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard only two people have been confirmed dead. In any case, RIP, and condolences to the families.
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So sad....fucking terrorist!! they are so coward...

A big hug for the people at UK.

Saludos
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1071 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  07:03:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, love & support to the london people, also from here.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  07:16:13  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thinking about all of you in London today. I hope everyone is okay. It's all so scary and terrible.

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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  07:44:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now it's 40 dead and over 300 injured...man.

Positive thoughts heading your way, Londoners and UKers...

[edit] and it seems that they're shutting down the Tube and buses until they're all searched...you guys and gals gonna be able to get home ok?

Edited by - tobafett on 07/07/2005 07:47:56
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <

4209 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  08:19:16  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A friend of mines aunt works at the foreign office down in London - she was evacuated and sent 10 miles out of London at 8 this morning.

All sounds too fucking suspicious.

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  08:32:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anyone else have stories like Surfer's?

SPEAK UP, PLEASE.


hang in there, London.
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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
388 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  08:40:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i remember sitting, staring at the towers a few years ago....and I know all of the UK is doing that very thing....makes me entirely ill and I can't yet get my head around the fact that this may soon be a commonplace action given the climate that's been created in the middle east....

so sorry to those who now must feel that anxiety and grieve. not enough words/tears



Those who find themselves ridiculous, sit down next to me.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  08:48:59  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hey is everyone ok?

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:22:56  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <



United Kingdom
3225 Posts
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 08:19:16
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A friend of mines aunt works at the foreign office down in London - she was evacuated and sent 10 miles out of London at 8 this morning.




These are the same dance-steps as before World War II, a lot of people had a hard time believing Hitler would have burned the Reichstag just to ride draconian antiterrorist legislation in on the back of public indignation, aiming for the point where you don´t need public indignation anymore to pass whatever you want. It´s one of the oldest tricks in the book: scare the bejeesus out of the people and they´ll willingly accept your preconceived ´solutions´ to the chaos you´ve created. We had it in Madrid last year and you´ll see it in the next couple days - the suits on teevee saying, "This is what we have to do" waving copies of asskicker legislation that has all the hallmarks of being drafted a long time beforehand.

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Never fuck a gift horse in the mouth.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:44:59  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Student of mine told me this morning photos of the victims are being censored - anyone know about this? if so it´s not usually a good sign.

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Never fuck a gift horse in the mouth.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:46:15  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The bus that expoloded is the bus that my friend catches to uni every morning, this morning he decided to go buy DVD's indtead and go to uni late. I have been crying mostly since I found this out.

Today two muslim girls at my university told my asian friend not to walk with them because people would think she is muslim, they say people have already started staring. It makes me sick, people are so fucking stupid. Islam is not the problem.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:50:00  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They blanked out one womans face because it was taken before the emergency services got there and that would be a fucker of a way for the family to find out.

Other than that I think not.
I went into town and a few of us went to a bar where we knew there were TV screens. They turned the sound off after a while and put a song on, left the pictures of the destruction up. Everyone looked a bit incredulous so I went to the bar..

me: Whats with the turing off of the sound?
he: er, well it's been on for three hours
me: so? do you not think thats a bit disrespectful?
*uncomfortable eye contact*
he: I'll turn it back up then
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:07:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

Today two muslim girls at my university told my asian friend not to walk with them because people would think she is muslim, they say people have already started staring. It makes me sick, people are so fucking stupid. Islam is not the problem.

Islam may not be the problem, except that the problem is Islam's to solve. If you're Islamic and you're not part of the solution, you are the problem.
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
607 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:08:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard about the bombings this morning before I got ready for work.

Starmekitten....I got chills when I read your post about your friend deciding to buy DVD's instead of boarding one of the buses that was bombed.

Parking is tough at the hospital I work, and I normally drive to a park and ride and take a shuttle bus the rest of the way. I was so freaked out, I drove and paid to park at the hospital.

My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims and their families and everyone touched by this awful tragedy.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:18:12  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Islam may not be the problem, except that the problem is Islam's to solve. If you're Islamic and you're not part of the solution, you are the problem.



Explain youself and try to keep it bullshit-lite please.
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Mass Pleeze
- FB Fan -

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:20:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Feel terrible for all the killed and injured Brits. Immensely!
Thanks for standing with us against these cowards but I feel bad because if you hadn't then maybe this doesn't happen today or ever. So thanks again for the backup.
If the blitz couldn't get you down this will be a tragic day but I cannot wait to see the response. Good or bad we are in it together.

Just an opinion, but if we had taken care of these assholes right after they hit the African embassies or the USS Cole, don't forget WTC episode I; then things might have shaken out a lot differently. One cruise missile into Sudan was not going to get it done.

FBI is still smarting from their inability to check out the flight training lead from the Minneapolis field office.

Did you exchange?
Can you Mr. Grieves?
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Erebus, I don't mean to be inflammatory, and please don't take this as an attack, but in what way are you part of the "solution" for the problems caused by whatever race/creed/religion/party/club/neighborhood/etc you're associated with?


watch me jumpstart as the old skin is peeled
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:36:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Islam may not be the problem, except that the problem is Islam's to solve. If you're Islamic and you're not part of the solution, you are the problem.



Explain youself and try to keep it bullshit-lite please.

The seeds of this grow in the schools of Cairo and Islamabad. How many of those seeds are growing up named Osama or Saddam? How many mosques are used as arms caches? Mullas as cell leaders? Islamic ambulances as attack vehicles? Islam must solve this at its roots or it will be solved for them, most likely by turning their own tactics against them.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:39:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Erebus, I don't mean to be inflammatory, and please don't take this as an attack, but in what way are you part of the "solution" for the problems caused by whatever race/creed/religion/party/club/neighborhood/etc you're associated with?

No offence taken. How many on the left feel justified in blaming Christians for the excesses of Christianity? We cannot reach into the bowels of Islam to cure what ails it. Islam is running out of time.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:40:59  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Benjamin Franklin (also cited to Thomas Jefferson): "People willing to trade their
freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

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Never fuck a gift horse in the mouth.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:42:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13584


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:53:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Newo

Benjamin Franklin (also cited to Thomas Jefferson): "People willing to trade their
freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

There's a word for cultures and societies unwilling to temporarily trade their freedom for longer term, albeit temporary, security: extinct.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:18:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow Kitten...is your friend ok? I suppose the best thing is just to be available for him...

more positive thoughts heading your way...

ˇviva london!
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:21:15  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

So sad....fucking terrorist!! they are so coward...

A big hug for the people at UK.

Saludos



I am a Brit, and I love London to bits.... so sad for the people that are there today...

But when you mention 'terrorists,' surely George W Bush and Tony Blair are part of the aforementionned 'T' word.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:24:46  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

The bus that expoloded is the bus that my friend catches to uni every morning, this morning he decided to go buy DVD's indtead and go to uni late. I have been crying mostly since I found this out.

Today two muslim girls at my university told my asian friend not to walk with them because people would think she is muslim, they say people have already started staring. It makes me sick, people are so fucking stupid. Islam is not the problem.



This is so fucking sick... people back home can be so damn simple minded! Its ridiculous.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:26:00  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
He's fine thanks Toba, he was right in the middle of it when it went down and was taken to a building to shelter with a lot of the shocked and scared people. Then he found out the bus time and number and freaked the hell out. I think it is just hitting him now and he has gone home to sleep. There was a good amount of time I couldn't get hold of him, and I love this guy to pieces he's one of my closest friends and the panic was unreal, I just want to hug the little fucker and I probably would go down there to do so if it weren't still such a mess.

Simon too, I'd hug him, I was well worried.

My cousin, she slept through the whole thing....
I think it's a family thing.

Best wishes to all those again with friends and family down that way xx

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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:34:51  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

Today two muslim girls at my university told my asian friend not to walk with them because people would think she is muslim, they say people have already started staring. It makes me sick, people are so fucking stupid. Islam is not the problem.

Islam may not be the problem, except that the problem is Islam's to solve. If you're Islamic and you're not part of the solution, you are the problem.



Erebus.... what the fuck are you talking about???

This has been brewing for a while. Brits have been expecting this for a long time. Your last sentence is the same as saying 'If you are British and you did not try to prevent the war in Iraq and halt the problems caused by Israel, then you are the problem.'

I have seen this coming for a long time... and as much as its disgraceful, think about the consequences of our actions in Afghanistan / Iraq where hundreds if not thousands of innocent people have lost their lives. Can you see why people have done this??

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:38:34  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Islam may not be the problem, except that the problem is Islam's to solve. If you're Islamic and you're not part of the solution, you are the problem.



Explain youself and try to keep it bullshit-lite please.

The seeds of this grow in the schools of Cairo and Islamabad. How many of those seeds are growing up named Osama or Saddam? How many mosques are used as arms caches? Mullas as cell leaders? Islamic ambulances as attack vehicles? Islam must solve this at its roots or it will be solved for them, most likely by turning their own tactics against them.



Erebus... I once respected your opinion, what the fuck has gotten into you?

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:38:42  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

I have seen this coming for a long time...
This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!



This is an attitude echoed by many people today.
We knew it was coming, we knew there would be something and we knew we couldn't stop anyone determined enough.

I think, I have to add at this point, kudos to the emergency services and the people of London for the way they reacted. There was calm and order amidst the chaos. Did anyone see the footage of the people on the tube? the window broke the train crashed and people queued to escape out of the window.

It's so, so British!

Edited by - starmekitten on 07/07/2005 11:40:09
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =

Chile
652 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis


I was not being sarcastic, maybe a dumbass, or I unintentionally seemed sarcastic, but I wasn't

I was being serious, sad as that may sound


... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.



Good to know that LBF

well.. it seems that Denmark and Italy are the next targets. I hope (we all hope) nothing else happens, just Peace
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:49:15  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

I have seen this coming for a long time...
This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!



This is an attitude echoed by many people today.
We knew it was coming, we knew there would be something and we knew we couldn't stop anyone determined enough.

I think, I have to add at this point, kudos to the emergency services and the people of London for the way they reacted. There was calm and order amidst the chaos. Did anyone see the footage of the people on the tube? the window broke the train crashed and people queued to escape out of the window.

It's so, so British!



Unfortunately I live in a country where BBC is banned so I cannot see the news as it is happening.... as much as I give shit to our fucked up government, I wish the best for the people caught up in this dreadful situation... people don't deserve to go through this wherever they are.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!

Edited by - Stuart on 07/07/2005 11:52:15
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