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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  19:08:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I remember the "there is another" line but I am still not sure it refers to Leia.



having just watched that, i have to say, that scene (where Yoda is dying), you can hardly understand anything he's saying. we had to replay that scene like 5 times till we could understand what he was saying. then, i continued to back it up, just to annoy the person i was with..

try watching that scene like 10 times in a row. it becomes amazingly funny after a while.

ah, the things that amuse me

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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  22:14:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how can the demise of a muppet be funny?
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  22:15:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just try watching it 10 times repeatedly
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  06:35:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am gonna be really really dissapointed if it's Leia unless she learns to kick butt like Anakin and Luke.

This is why I turned to the Dark Side.

But anyway, back to my Sith question. Where will they rise from in the final 3?


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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  07:09:33  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i don't know if i understand the question mike - why do the sith rise again?

i would think that the sith are not interested in all in training a whole group of new siths, the way that the jedi would, because it is said that the sith are totally selfish. so, the only siths are Vader and Palpatine, and they are content that way, until Luke comes along. Vader sees Luke as his key to greater power (ie. overthrowing the Emperor) and the Emperor sees it as a chance to gain more power and replace Vader (ie. both for selfish reasons). So, instead of there being a rising of the Sith, i believe a Sith lord would simply want an apprentice, so as long as the lord has his servant, there is no need for an increase in the Sith.

-Brian

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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  07:59:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well said, BF...

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speedy_m
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Canada
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  09:19:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Sith used to be many, like the Jedi. But due to their selfish nature (as Brian said), they destroyed each other. Eventually one Sith came along who changed everything and said there would only ever be two, a master and an apprentice. Essentially, the master trains the apprentice until the apprentice grows strong enough that they want to be the leader. The apprentice kills the master and takes on a new learner. Palpatine did that (as he alluded to in the Opera House scene of ROTS), but instead of being killed by his learner, he had his apprentices killed off and replaced them with more powerful learners (although I'm not sure it was his intention for Obi-Wan to kill Maul. Though if Maul killed Obi-Wan, it's unlikely Anakin would have been trained as a Jedi at all. Though then maybe Palpatine would have trained him from childhood.... but I digress).

Anyway, all it would take for the Sith to rise again is for a Jedi to turn to the dark side, perhaps one of the Jedi Luke will train in the future. More back story on what happened with the Sith would be very cool, and Lucas has hinted at an "Episode 0", and this is supposedly what it's about. Yoda and the Jedi destroying the Sith (as referenced breifly in Ep. 1).


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TRANSMARINE
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  12:04:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you guys know that Lucas' first choice to helm ROTJ was David Lynch, before settling on the late Richard Marquand to direct? Can you imagine what that would have been like? Lynch has always been my favorite director, but in this case I think it would have been completely wrong. However, it's fun to speculate. It probably would have been rated R here in America (PG-13 wouldn't appear until almost a year later with Red Dawn), which would have been hilarious. I'm sure this is why Lucas backed down on that decision. Lynch probably presented some very odd un-Star Wars ideas, along with, no doubt, some bizarre sketches and perhaps models.

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  12:33:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

i don't know if i understand the question mike - why do the sith rise again?

i would think that the sith are not interested in all in training a whole group of new siths, the way that the jedi would, because it is said that the sith are totally selfish. so, the only siths are Vader and Palpatine, and they are content that way, until Luke comes along. Vader sees Luke as his key to greater power (ie. overthrowing the Emperor) and the Emperor sees it as a chance to gain more power and replace Vader (ie. both for selfish reasons). So, instead of there being a rising of the Sith, i believe a Sith lord would simply want an apprentice, so as long as the lord has his servant, there is no need for an increase in the Sith.

-Brian

If you move I shoots!





Bu there are no Sith left now. They are both dead.


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speedy_m
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Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  12:57:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yo, Mikey, check it:


quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m


Anyway, all it would take for the Sith to rise again is for a Jedi to turn to the dark side, perhaps one of the Jedi Luke will train in the future. More back story on what happened with the Sith would be very cool, and Lucas has hinted at an "Episode 0", and this is supposedly what it's about. Yoda and the Jedi destroying the Sith (as referenced breifly in Ep. 1).


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The Holiday Son
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France
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:06:30  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I'm sure this is why Lucas backed down on that decision.

Nope.
Lynch declined the offer.
He didn't want to direct a sequel and a film that wouldn't really be his own.
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:17:36  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i also heard he didn't want to do a 'big sci-fi special effects film' - yet turned around and made DUNE

-Brian

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speedy_m
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Canada
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:28:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would love to see a Star Wars film directed by someone with a bit more vision than Lucas. Which is sad to say considering the 'vision' and creativity it took dream up the SW universe and it's characters and conflicts in the first place. This sort of thing is exciting though, like the idea of Quentin Tarantino directing a Bond film. Some fresh blood to give things a new feel while retaining the style of the classics.


I am God's brother, his soul mate and team mate/He passes me info-mation/and I reciprocate

Edited by - speedy_m on 06/07/2005 13:28:57
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:31:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I refuse to watch this movie, I'm sorry, but I just can't waste my time with it.
People who love it will hate me now.



I'd comment but I'll hold my tongue
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:32:16  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Entertainment Weekly spoke w/ Lucas and he said originally he offered Ep 1 and 2 to Spielberg and Ron Howard - THAT would've been interesting...

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If you move I shoots!

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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:33:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

Did you guys know that Lucas' first choice to helm ROTJ was David Lynch, before settling on the late Richard Marquand to direct? Can you imagine what that would have been like? Lynch has always been my favorite director, but in this case I think it would have been completely wrong. However, it's fun to speculate. It probably would have been rated R here in America (PG-13 wouldn't appear until almost a year later with Red Dawn), which would have been hilarious. I'm sure this is why Lucas backed down on that decision. Lynch probably presented some very odd un-Star Wars ideas, along with, no doubt, some bizarre sketches and perhaps models.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN



and there might have been a fisting scene with Leia
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  13:46:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Yo, Mikey, check it:


quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m


Anyway, all it would take for the Sith to rise again is for a Jedi to turn to the dark side, perhaps one of the Jedi Luke will train in the future. More back story on what happened with the Sith would be very cool, and Lucas has hinted at an "Episode 0", and this is supposedly what it's about. Yoda and the Jedi destroying the Sith (as referenced breifly in Ep. 1).


I am God's brother, his soul mate and team mate/He passes me info-mation/and I reciprocate




I am God's brother, his soul mate and team mate/He passes me info-mation/and I reciprocate



Yeah it was more for the benefit of Brian and Toba.


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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  14:10:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ron Howard has about as much talent as Brian DePalma...but at least Ron Howard doesn't remake everything his idols have made and slap a new title on it.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  15:06:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
am I the only one who thinks that Leia is killer in the first movie,

I love her white robe. Never cared for the golden bikini thing





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speedy_m
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Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  15:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I never noticed her shoes before. They're like regular shoes, except silver, because it's a story set in space.


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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  15:26:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
she wore white boots in the film if memory serves...
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  23:50:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wrong thread for those pictures, fellas.


El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro

Edited by - whoreatthedoor on 06/07/2005 23:50:53
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  06:53:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have just thought that fantacising about Leia and Padme(sic) is taking the mother/daughter fantasy to whole new levels of excellence. Motley Crew would love it.


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  07:53:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks Toba,

for the sick people:
http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com/

for the normal people:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/8380/hips.jpg
http://www.carrie.feeniks.net/pictures/young.jpg


"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  09:33:21  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
neither of the normal links work

-Brian

If you move I shoots!

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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  09:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who cares about the normal links? Join the Freak Side, Brian! You know you want to!


El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro

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Jordo
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USA
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:08:10  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, I just watched episodes 4-6 for the first time in the past 2 weeks.

I thought Return of the Jedi was maybe the best of all of them. Can someone explain to me why no one likes it as much? I cant understand that... It was so much more exciting than all the other ones...

And dont say its cause of the Ewoks because the ewoks are no more out of place in Jedi than any of the cute stuff in all the Star Wars movies... Star Wars is one of the cutest things in the world. Do you know how many times I went "awwww" because of some cute muppet thing, or r2d2 thing? These are adorable movies... Hell, the ewoks are better because they are psychotic savages who try to eat Han Solo


-Jordan

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:15:27  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote

for Brian,


freaks go to
http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com br /

normal people look at the lovely carrie fisher:




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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:16:52  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Jordo, I like ROTJ and think ESB is the best SW and the original SW (EP4) a bit weak.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:22:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like ROTJ, I just think that TESB is much better, mainly becasue it's so dark.

I kinda like the Ewoks though sometimes they annoy me.

Anyone seen Caravan Of Courage? Now that was one sad movie!


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The Holiday Son
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France
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:23:36  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love ROTJ ! The last hour is brilliant. I'm not a big fan of the scenes with Jabba though.
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speedy_m
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Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:24:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just watched ROTJ again, and I fast forwarded most of the scenes on Endor. I don't mind the Ewoks, I just find that part a bit boring. Espeicially the speeder bike chase.


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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Star Wars is my favorite of the six...I've watched it more than any of the others...


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:30:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean A New Hope? ; )


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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes...shoulda said...knew the (my fellow) geeks woulda said something...

:)
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