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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  14:26:07  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Rabid anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley...

"Last night, anti-abortion extremist Neal Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program. The topic was an interesting one - whether or not an internet service provider should allow Horsley to post the names of abortion doctors on his website. Horsley does that as a way of targeting them and one doctor has been killed. In the course of the interview, however, Colmes asked Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex."

(short) transcript

You can listen to the insanity here


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  14:29:13  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oh my oh my!

AC: "You had sex with animals?"

NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule."


(!)

ha! In fact!

You experiment with anything that moves when you are growing up sexually. You're naive. You know better than that... If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it

It's a good job that there mule can't have man babies huh


I imagine you kind of hopping up and down like an angry badger

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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  14:40:02  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'm against abortion, but this guy is nuts. after you fuck a mule, what do you have against abortion?

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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  15:09:47  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
which indicates what kind of people are in head of stupid anti abortion campaigns. had no doubt whatsoever about the iq of religious zombies and the such but this is more beautiful than any invented stereotype.


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  15:23:28  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule."



"When you grow up on a ranch in Arizona, your first girlfriend is a cactus."


Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 05/10/2005 15:25:56
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  15:56:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My mother is a psychiatrist, and she told me that zoophilia is not just a "perversion" but a very deep mental illness.

But I think that publishing a list of abortion doctors is a much deeper illness.

The fact that this guy is sick is not unusual - but the fact that he expresses himself publicly and that some people follow his opinions clearly makes me afraid of Americans.


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

The fact that this guy is sick is not unusual - but the fact that he expresses himself publicly and that some people follow his opinions clearly makes me afraid of Americans.




whereas there are no crazy French people
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:25:41  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
publishing a list of names of people who do something one is against is not sicker than beastiality. come on.

of course, the list is harmful to those on it, so one may ask if it is doing more harm than "good." certainly fucking a mule is sicker than writing down a list of names.

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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:29:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm not saying the list is a good thing, but the people who are fucked up enough to murder these doctors would undoubtedly be doing it either way. if they don't find this information from this list, they'll find it out elsewhere..
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:30:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

The fact that this guy is sick is not unusual - but the fact that he expresses himself publicly and that some people follow his opinions clearly makes me afraid of Americans.




whereas there are no crazy French people



They are crazy in a different way - I am more familiar with French wackos.

Very familiar.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

i'm not saying the list is a good thing, but the people who are fucked up enough to murder these doctors would undoubtedly be doing it either way. if they don't find this information from this list, they'll find it out elsewhere..




It's not because they own guns that they will shoot someone. It's not because there is a list of doctors that they kill those doctors. It's not because a sick guy told them to do so that they did it.

There are limits to responsibility.


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:40:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think we're saying the same thing
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:46:21  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
would somebody PLEASE think of the mules!

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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:50:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

i think we're saying the same thing



i was being ironic, though.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:53:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
obviously, if you give a gun to a sick person, tell him the doctors are evil baby killers, give him their addresses, you can expect something horrible to happen.




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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:53:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
are you one of these guys who thinks that violence in movies causes violence in real life too?
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:57:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no.

there is a difference between violent films and real life. giving a list with doctors' names is not virtual.

if a psycho kills a doctor, hthe above quoted guy is partly responsible for what happens.


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if you read my first sentence, i said i didn't think it was a good thing that this list is out there. what i'm trying to say is that i don't think the blame, or the problem, lies entirely in this list.. it's a much larger-scale problem.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  16:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

no.

there is a difference between violent films and real life. giving a list with doctors' names is not virtual.

if a psycho kills a doctor, hthe above quoted guy is partly responsible for what happens.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust



what if they find doctors addresses on an internet doctor directory. should that internet site be partially responsible?
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:00:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

if you read my first sentence, i said i didn't think it was a good thing that this list is out there. what i'm trying to say is that i don't think the blame, or the problem, lies entirely in this list.. it's a much larger-scale problem.



i am too tired to disagree right now. i am even too tired to understand what you are saying. you are a good guy, so i believe what you are saying is right.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:01:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

no.

there is a difference between violent films and real life. giving a list with doctors' names is not virtual.

if a psycho kills a doctor, hthe above quoted guy is partly responsible for what happens.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust



what if they find doctors addresses on an internet doctor directory. should that internet site be partially responsible?



no, responsibility comes from the purpose.

publishing a list of doctors that you can call if you are sick is quite different.


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:02:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it



I always thought 2 out of 3 was good enough.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
let's go have some cognac and and laugh this whole thing off! what do you say?


Edited by - floop on 05/10/2005 17:02:39
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:03:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

oh my oh my!

AC: "You had sex with animals?"

NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule."


(!)

ha! In fact!

You experiment with anything that moves when you are growing up sexually. You're naive. You know better than that... If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it

It's a good job that there mule can't have man babies huh


I imagine you kind of hopping up and down like an angry badger



I wonder if he used a condom.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:04:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

let's go have some cognac and and laugh this whole thing off! what do you say?





right.
let me remind you it's 2am and i'm at my office.


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:08:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur
right.
let me remind you it's 2am and i'm at my office.



c'mon bro. don't be such a pussy.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:11:37  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think this debate about publishing lists is a grey area, of course in a vacuum this guy can't be considered responsible for every creep that uses it for ill, but then again, he is a highly public and highly respected figure in the far-right anti-abortion faction, so he has to be careful about what his actions might be saying. This is somewhat like the recent statements made by the right in regard to "activist" judges (some of whom were Republican and/or Reagan/Bush appointees) that they could understand why some people would be compelled to do vioent acts against them when they make decisions that they don't agree with. I think there is an implied statement that gains much more power in the public's mind because it is being said by a highly public *representative* of the government. It's tantamount to a wink-wink nudge-nudge, if nothing else.

Public political discourse when respected figures are involved kinda throw the vacuum state out the window.

I am too tired to imagine the physics involved in that last metaphor.


edit: oh, and the mules! why can't they stick to pumpkin patches fer crissakes.

Let the Klugman revolution begin!

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:24:05  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
He's publishing it with the sole purpose of riling anti abortionists to action though, in mild cases the doctors will get abusive calls and letters and the like but this guy and people like him know that doctors are attacked and killed sometimes. Making a list like that in association with something that gets tempers so high is, in my mind, encouraging it. It's making it easy for people who would do such acts, If these lists weren't published I don't think your average nut-job would take the time and effort to hunt down the numbers and addresses. Your intense nut job, maybe.

Maybe he can't be held responsible, but I think he should be to be honest with you.

And I do think making it more accessible to rain down abuse on a bunch of people is sicker than fucking a mule, I think encouraging this sort of violence is pretty damned sick. Although, the mule thing thats weird, remember the guy who married his pony?


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:28:39  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it



I always thought 2 out of 3 was good enough.



well if it isn't wet you shouldn't be doing it, if it's cold it's dead, if it vibrates though, thats weird, I suppose at least he didn't say hum.



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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:34:51  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it


I always thought 2 out of 3 was good enough.



well if it isn't wet you shouldn't be doing it, if it's cold it's dead, if it vibrates though, thats weird, I suppose at least he didn't say hum.


I imagine you kind of hopping up and down like an angry badger

He'd like that dancing badger, that's certain!


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  19:02:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another reason why I would love to move to Canada.
A guy from my state shot and killed a doctor who
performed abortions (the very term "abortion doctor" is
rife with slanted meaning) and he hid out in France
and was extradited back to the States and I forget
what sentence he received. He stood in the woods
behind the man's house and shot him dead
as he was heating himself soup for dinner.


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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  19:09:50  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
these extremists make no sense. taking it upon themselves to divvy out punishments they see fit? if killing a baby is bad, why not killing a father, brother, husband, or son?

fucking terrorists. jesus wouldn't kill some doctor.

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  19:58:16  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris

He'd like that dancing badger, that's certain!

Let the Klugman revolution begin!



you know my badgers hot!

but this guy, hell I reckon he'd even like your Klugman


I imagine you kind of hopping up and down like an angry badger

Edited by - starmekitten on 05/10/2005 19:58:45
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  20:36:50  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Any man that lieth with a mule shalt not be suffered to live.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
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Posted - 05/11/2005 :  01:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm amazed of your surprise, dudes.

Having sex with a mule doesn't make you a zoophilic, as having sex with someone of your same sex doesn't make you a homosexual.

There was a funny story here about a man who wanted to marry his cow. Sometimes is easier to love an animal rather than a person...


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Scarla O
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 :  01:29:05  Show Profile  Visit Scarla O's Homepage  Reply with Quote

"We're not pro-abortion, we're pro-choice" Heyyy just say it. What the...... say it! Quit fuckin walking on eggs just say it! People suck, there's too many of em, and they're easier to kill when they're foetuses than when they're grown up. Oh sorry did the mask fall? Let me put that back on. "Hahahaaha" Arent people the keenest things you've ever seen?

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