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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
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 Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:31:14
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
sigh
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This is the war and not the warning.
You gotta admit it was funny.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:33:26
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It was not fucking funny and thats the whole point.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:35:40
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Why?
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:38:02
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yikes!
sorry tre.. you must know by now i can't help being an ass.
(it was pretty funny though you have to admit)
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:38:18
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Originally posted by kathryn
True. But I'd never say a thing to a kid...or to a parent. I'm
Machiavellian in my own way in that I just quietly go about
my own business. Anyway that's cool about your son
discovering a love of guitar! Who knows what Jonas
is gonna be into? I bet these days you're thinking
"soccer"?!
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
So wait: is Carolyn Soccer Mom, or Maple Syrup Mom?
en el amor se esconden las respuestas |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:44:15
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Cripes, both I guess simo, good thing we sold the volvo...;)
Not the right time or place Tony.
This is a very important and sensitive and serious issue for girls.
It causes a lot of pain and anguish.
As tre said, its not funny.
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 14:45:45 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:46:51
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sorry girls. wasn't trying to hurt any feelings..
i'll just, uh.. leave now.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:47:27
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coughMSNcough
en el amor se esconden las respuestas |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:48:24
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I'm gonna bite my tongue but I am not "fucking" happy.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:49:43
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you're not happy when I don't justify it
you're not happy when I try to.
Go and tell the king that the sky is falling in |
Edited by - starmekitten on 05/11/2005 15:13:11 |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:58:49
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Well if you feel better for trying to make people on here feel bad now then you've succeeded. I do and I don't see why I should.
Regardless of your problems, and regardless how insensitive some people may find this reply, I don't think it was necessary. You know they meant nothing by the jokes (mine had nothing to do with you) and also probably weren't aware of your problems. How do you know that any post you ever make is gonna offend someone somewhere? So long as you mean no harm then I don't think you deserve to be made to feel like shit.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 14:59:24
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See, real pain.
Apl too said she can hardly talk about it because it still bothers her.
Mike, this affects all girls, all of them.
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 15:01:20 |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:02:16
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I think we agree to stop the jokes but can we also stop adding to the guilt now please. I'm sorry.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:05:27
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
See, real pain.
Apl too said she can hardly talk about it because it still bothers her.
Mike, this affects all girls, all of them.
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This is the war and not the warning.
Due to one of your earlier posts I can't reply to this how I would have liked.
Actually no fuck it. Kittie's post did not seem exclusive to girls to me. I know I for oen was teased at school and felt bad about my image, in fact I still do.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:14:10
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Originally posted by starmekitten
you're not happy when I don't justify it
you're not happy when I try to.
Go and tell the king that the sky is falling in
Because to be honest with you, I didn't think you were serious. Like us.
I guess floop WAS right!
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:16:16
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This thread, is serious.
This thread has made me feel less alienated as a girl, it's made me realise I am not mad I'm not the only one who thinks like this. Read my early posts mike and you'll see I took it serious.
This issue is close to my heart.
Go and tell the king that the sky is falling in |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:18:55
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
I think we agree to stop the jokes but can we also stop adding to the guilt now please. I'm sorry.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
The guilt you feel is self-induced.
We are mainly talking about society, in general.
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 15:22:40 |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:20:56
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Kitty I know that but I really don't think you can have a go at people for the usual bollocks they come out with, they really meant nothing by it and you have to be big enough to see that and ignore it. We have both done it to enough other people's threads before, serious and non-serious.
You know we love you, I told you all that earlier in the thread. We honestly meant nothing by it and we are sorry.
I guess floop WAS right!
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Edited by - Homers_pet_monkey on 05/13/2005 06:43:02 |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:21:01
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
See, real pain.
Apl too said she can hardly talk about it because it still bothers her.
Mike, this affects all girls, all of them.
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This is the war and not the warning.
Due to one of your earlier posts I can't reply to this how I would have liked.
Actually no fuck it. Kittie's post did not seem exclusive to girls to me. I know I for oen was teased at school and felt bad about my image, in fact I still do.
Kim, will you do me the honour of being my wife?
Yes of course all people can potentially be teased, male or female.
But we are talking about girls here specifically.
And we have tied in how painful the pressure of having to live up to the images of female perfection around us can be.
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 15:21:45 |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:23:56
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To maybe get back on topic, nobody answered my question:
So when you were being picked on in school did your parents know it was happening or did you keep it from them? |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:26:16
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Oh okay about the making jokes thing, I see.
Sometimes it seems like guys don't even realize how much of a problem these kinds of things are. And when its spelled out in a thread like this and jokes are still made, it does seem like a brick to the head is the only way to make it known.
Its just frustating when its something that you live with all the time and its not taken seriously.
That's the only way I know how to describe it.
I ain't mad or anything at ya Mikey.
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 15:28:23 |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:26:46
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
But why does it have to remain that way? Why can't this topic develop to include 'people'?
Because it's different for boys and girls, it's a special discussion for some people, and expanding it will water it down. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:29:26
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Originally posted by darwin
To maybe get back on topic, nobody answered my question:
So when you were being picked on in school did your parents know it was happening or did you keep it from them?
Apl did.
Basically she said no because her parents were asses and wouldn't have done anything anyway.
And I gotta say ditto.
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:29:37
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Originally posted by starmekitten
This thread, is serious.
This thread has made me feel less alienated as a girl, it's made me realise I am not mad I'm not the only one who thinks like this. Read my early posts mike and you'll see I took it serious.
This issue is close to my heart.
Go and tell the king that the sky is falling in
I am with you Tre. This thread has really helped me alot. I am so in awe of the wonderful women of this forum. And thank you so much for sharing with us your story. It had me in sobbing, and wishing you didn't live so far away. (Not too mention it also made me want to kick the asses of all the girls who ever made you feel less than)
It really is a serious problem and I am so glad that we are talking about it.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:37:11
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OK I am no longer gonna speak for the others guys but I can honestly say that my jokes were not intended to be hurtful. I think anyone of sane mind can see that. They didn't even have anything to do with the subject matter. They may as well have been Knock Knock jokes.
I am obviously alone in myself liking people to lighten up a thread that has gotten me upset. I honestly do like that but have learnt that not everybody does and fair enough. I just feel personally that when you have lost your sense of humour then you have lost everything (although obviously I realise there are limits, I am sure you guys have laughed at dodgy humour that was more potentially hurtful to others than my jokes were to anyone here).
EDIT: Shit now I am paranoid. I have just realised that my new sig. may be taken the wrong way in light of recent events. It's nothing to do with any of this, just pure co-ink-i-dink.
I guess floop WAS right!
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:38:12
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| I never really told my parents. My father (no offense) being a man didn't understand too well. He would say things like, "oh, don't pay any attention to them" and my mother would say things like, "it all comes around in the end" I am not faulting them here, but you have to know my parents had me later in life they were older and of a different generation than most of my peers' parents. They were the generation of stiff upper lip. Not cruel or unemotional. They were very loving, but not savy about what it was like for me. They were from sock hops and jerry mathis records. You know what I mean? |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:41:26
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*cautiously stepping back in here*
i would like to add that, had i known my jokes would be hurtful, i would not have posted them.. i like to think i have a sense of when and when not to push it too far. i was way off in this situation and didn't realize how serious a subject this is.. so, you have my apologies..
i would like to second what homers has said though.. no one meant any harm here. and in all fairness, you guys dish out your share of jokes too..
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Edited by - floop on 05/11/2005 15:43:15 |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:43:24
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
OK I am no longer gonna speak for the others guys but I can honestly say that my jokes were not intended to be hurtful. I think anyone of sane mind can see that. They didn't even have anything to do with the subject matter. They may as well have been Knock Knock jokes.
I am obviously alone in myself liking people to lighten up a thread that has gotten me upset. I honestly do like that but have learnt that not everybody does and fair enough. I just feel personally that when you have lost your sense of humour then you have lost everything (although obviously I realise there are limits, I am sure you guys have laughed at dodgy humour that was more potentially hurtful to others than my jokes were to anyone here).
EDIT: Shit now I am paranoid. I have just realised that my new sig. may be taken the wrong way in light of recent events. It's nothing to do with any of this, just pure co-ink-i-dink.
I guess floop WAS right!
Mike I know you are a good guy,
and I'll say that I know you wouldn't mean to be hurtful.
This is an issue that can't be lightened up.
Don't take it as a guilt trip, take it as us ladies trying to promote understanding.
When its that painful, empathy is better.
peace.
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 15:45:11 |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:44:34
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Peace sister.
I guess floop WAS right!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:44:58
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My parents were oblivious about all things, especially
what abuse their children suffered at someone else's hands
(and their own). darwin your daughter would tell you.
From what your posts say about you as a dad, she would
tell you.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:49:31
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My parents were going through a messy divorce, my father lived away and my mother had a nervous breakdown, when she found out about some of the school trouble she went to the school to tell them and they made out it was my fault and made her cry so I covered it up after that. They had their own troubles and I don't blame them for any of it.
And no one has dismissed that it happens to guys too, but sometimes it's good to talk woman to woman about the things that have affected us. The whole point of this thread is the difference in the way girls act in this sort of discrimination. We're not trying to exclude anyone and I don't think some of you are trying to understand.
The issues, the specifics are different for us. This is what we're talking about.
Maybe I over-reacted, and I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty I was trying, and failing, to make people understand why it was a bad joke to make.
(and Darwin, you're an absolute super star big love to you my friend)
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Edited by - starmekitten on 05/11/2005 16:25:59 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:51:19
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
peace.
what, i don't get a "peace" too? so now homers is Mr. Nice Guy and i'm the big a-hole??
i see how it is |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:54:10
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I blame all of this on Erebus!
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:54:29
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Ooops I didn't see your post Tony.
Peace to you too brutha.
I'm glad this turned out to be a big deal.
Now boys, go post in the what you learned from the forum thread. 
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Edited by - Carolynanna on 05/11/2005 15:55:14 |
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floop
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 15:55:32
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
Ooops I didn't see your post Tony.
Peace to you too brutha.
thanks carolyn,
peace on earth!
(ps. homers, i hope you don't mind if i use your signature too)
I guess floop WAS right!
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