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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  19:06:47  Show Profile
Just finished Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut last night. Outright funny and interesting in a dated way.



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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1158 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  19:19:02  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage
I love that book. I had to reread it this summer for English, then compare and contrast it with Cold Mountain. That book was not enjoyed.


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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  19:33:51  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder

Just finished Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut last night. Outright funny and interesting in a dated way.



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I read that in a day as well I enjoyed it soo much, don't know how it's dated. I found it pretty nightmarish, in a good way!

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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  19:51:17  Show Profile
Vonnegut is really funny. I have a three in one collection of his works with 'Cat's Cradle' (which I've read a few months ago), 'God Bless You, Mr Rosewater', and 'Breakfast of Champions'. I'm debating about going right into one of those two or buying something at the bookstore in just a minute where I'm meeting my friend. Perhaps something from this thread.

I agree that I was a little off in the "dated" description. I feel he was so current in his description of the 60's in his two books I've read that I had a 60's and 70's feeling much of the time while I read them. More of a testament to his descriptions being on the mark than being dated.



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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1158 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  19:53:59  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage
Read Breakfast. Next to Slaughterhouse and Cat's Cradle, its my favorite.


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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  20:04:51  Show Profile
Duly noted. Thanks. I'm also tempted by Cryptonomicon, so I'll take a look at it and possibly pick it up to break up my Vonnegut intake.



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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  20:08:01  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage
Sorry wasn't a criticism Superabounder, I heard abit of Slaughterhouse-Five as a radioplay as a teenager and became fasinated with finding out what the hell it was about, actually the book is surrealy ridiculous which can be funny, or in my case, disturbing. I have to read more of his stuff, since he's been mentioned so many times on this forum.

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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2792 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  21:34:14  Show Profile
Arthur Rimbaud - Collected Poems

"You're constantly in a state of becoming"
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  00:00:58  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by danjersey

Arthur Rimbaud - Collected Poems

"You're constantly in a state of becoming"



Is there any commentary included in the collection of the Rimbaud poems? One of my professors was an expert on Rimbaud and published a book about him-his name was Wallace Fowlie. I wonder if your book is his?



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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  00:56:47  Show Profile
"Negro President" by Garry Wills. It's about how Jefferson won the election 1800 because the southern states had more representatives due to the slaves being counted 3/5 of person when representatives per state were set. It's really well written and does a great job of being accurate and thorough, but still fun to read.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  07:06:27  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address
Of Vonnegut, Galapagos, Hocus Pocus, Breakfast and Timequake are my favourite, I like everything of his except Slapstick. His short stories are great too, how he made his living before being a novelist (when short stories were a sellers' market, anybody remember that?)

Darwin, you would like Galapagos, for reasons obvious from the title. I remember you asked about him a couple months back and I was trying to think of something of his would appeal to you.




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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  07:33:59  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address
Thinking of Vonnegut I remembered a guy from Liverpool who's very similar but does more than simply ape his style. This one is narrated by a shopping trolley who makes friends with a man who becomes a trillionaire after setting up a Metaphysical Betting Shop where the religious come to put money on the existence of their god.



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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  20:47:05  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Still reading "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn. I love that man.

But, at night, when I am tired, I steal one of the books I gave to SpudBoy for his birthday last weekend: "The Men Who Stare at Goats". Highly recommended, and a fast read. If SpudBoy keeps falling asleep as fast as he's been lately, should have it done in a jiffy.
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2792 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  21:17:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder

quote:
Originally posted by danjersey

Arthur Rimbaud - Collected Poems

"You're constantly in a state of becoming"



Is there any commentary included in the collection of the Rimbaud poems? One of my professors was an expert on Rimbaud and published a book about him-his name was Wallace Fowlie. I wonder if your book is his?



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no, his name is Oliver Bernard.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2005 :  11:00:26  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address
This constantly since I got it in February, can't leave Bill alone.



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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  08:01:50  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address


Here's 25th October 1668:
"After supper, to have my head combed by Deb (his chambermaid), which occasioned the greatest sorrow to me that ever I knew in this world; for my wife, coming up suddenly, did find me imbracing the girl con my hand sub su coats; and endeed, I was with my main in her cunny."

What a strange way of putting it - my wife caught me with my hand underneath another womans' clothes, oh and I was fucking her too. Seems it was difficult for him to put it on paper cause he lapses into Latin and all.

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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  08:21:46  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage


no mains in cunnys here!
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  08:33:30  Show Profile
Has anyone read The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Nightime? It is written by Mark Haddon and is very interesting.

I am also reading True At First Light by Hemingway. Another great novel.

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.".
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  08:42:29  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BrendanT

Has anyone read The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Nightime? It is written by Mark Haddon and is very interesting.

I am also reading True At First Light by Hemingway. Another great novel.



Answering your question Hemingway-style:

The Dog Also Rises

The American sat at the bar. She pulled out some pesos. She ordered a drink. She thought about Cuba.

"What did you think of the book?" he asked, sorrowfully, thinking of the great men whose epic lives were sacrificed on those dusty fields he left behind.

"It is a fine book, Brendan T," she shrugged.

Together they ambled out of the bar, knowing it would be good.

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Seriously, now, that book was well-written, he did an exceptional job of capturing the internal world of an autistic teen. At times that drove me nuts, all the math and logistic and sciency stufff, but that reflects my discomfort and lack of interest in those matters. How are you liking it?



Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  08:44:12  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address


Sure taint no main-and-cunny tale but where was I when this came out hmm interesting.

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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  13:05:20  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Newo
Darwin, you would like Galapagos, for reasons obvious from the title. I remember you asked about him a couple months back and I was trying to think of something of his would appeal to you.



Thanks Newo. I did read Slaughthouse 5 last summer, which I enjoyed. I'll try Galapagos and give a report if I do.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  17:24:31  Show Profile
Kathryn,

I have completed the novel. I use it with the learners in my class. They are low level learners and some with developmental challenges and they seem to relate extrordinarily with this story. It is simply written and has an easy to follow storyline.
It was funny when I first started to read the novel with them and we were only a few pages in when the scene with the pitchforked dog on the lawn. The women comes out screaming "What the f*#k have you done?" I wasn't paying attention to the person reading as I was watching someone else following along with their finger when I realized that the person reading was attempting to sound the word fuck out! Funny how some text just slips the mind at times.
Anyways, I did find the novel compelling and an incredible idea by the author. Don't think he will be able to write another in the same style though.
Can you recommend any others. I read anything except S. King or the lawyer type mysteries.
I have enjoyed Timothy Findley's Spadework recently as well as John Fante's Ask The Dust. This was a re-read.
I begrudgingly read Dan Brown's (the title completely slips my mind at the moment) oh......Celestine Prophecy, no......shit I can't remember. Why are people so gullible?
Anyways, let me know what you can recommend reading and when we can meet at the bar to discuss?
Everything seems to pale in comparison to Hemingway at the moment. Not sure why? Maybe because he is it? Not even sure what I mean.
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Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.".
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  17:27:01  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address
If you like John Fante then try Bukowski or Celine.

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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  17:35:35  Show Profile
Thanks Newo. I think I might.

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.".
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  17:46:23  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BrendanT

let me know what you can recommend reading



How about two books of short stories for a change of pace? Both by the imcomprable Thom Jones - "The Pugilist at Rest" and "Sonny Liston Was a Friend of Mine."

Or if you wanna get your ass kicked, pick up Ian McEwan's latest novel, "Saturday."

Or "Middlesex" by Jeffrey Eugenides.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  17:57:56  Show Profile
Well, I am on my way out of the office. I am going to check into all of those novels tomorrow. Thank you very much for the suggestions. It is always a pleasure chatting and listening to your recommendations.
By the way. What are your thoughts on Honeycomb. I obviously do not have a copy yet. Very shortly I assure you.
Take care.

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

All of a sudden my water broke!
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One Who Hath Swum
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78 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  12:51:31  Show Profile  Visit One Who Hath Swum's Homepage
Life of Pi...again.

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http://www.fournineproductions.com/musicpage.html I joined the cult of me.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2005 :  14:23:45  Show Profile



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1591020913/
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2005 :  18:41:40  Show Profile
Are you one in forty-five?

I'm almost finished with Oryx and Crake.

I'm now in love with Oryx, dammit.



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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =

France
696 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2005 :  02:16:50  Show Profile




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Frog in the Sand
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France
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2005 :  03:49:13  Show Profile



Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  08:23:17  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address




bathroom reading:



Next up enjoying the prospect soooo much, and in one of those rubbery American paperback editions stands up to being stuffed in back pocket repeatedly.



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Buy your best friend flowers. Buy your lover a beer. Covet thy father. Covet thy neighbour's father. Honour thy lover's beer. Covet thy neighbour's father's wife's sister. Take her to bingo night.

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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  08:31:32  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
I just finished reading this:



And now I'm re-reading this:





I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
503 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  09:01:27  Show Profile
last week I read


and


This week I am going to read



and



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