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starmekitten
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Posted - 04/19/2005 :  18:25:41  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello!

I know you'd thought I had gone away but no. Couple more things. If anyone can shed light on these I will love you forever. Unless I don't like you already, they I guess I'll be grudgingly appreciative :P

  • Ludwidshafen

  • Snake Oil

  • are there any "official" lyrics to these?
    do we know anything else about them? i am sure I have seen reference to snake oil somewhere on this forum at some point?
    also for consistency:
  • Take What You Want

  • Down In The Hole


  • also, remnant points from the other threads

  • Massif Centrale

  • Two people have said that Frank has mentioned the misspelling in a German interview in 2004, do we know any more about this interview? What was said? Who the interview was for?

  • Everything is New

  • A brief google suggests the club on hermosa strand is the lighthouse club, a couple of links to this.
    .....at the Lighthouse in Hermosa Beach, buying drinks for the likes of Chet Baker and Art Pepper....
    http://www.thelighthousecafe.net/history.html
    http://www.jerryjazzmusician.com/shop/shopmain.cfm?CatalogName=lighthouse

    What do you think? Is it?

  • Manitoba

  • We have the story of the woman in the snow (and excuse my ignorance here please) who should I credit it to

  • Nadine

  • The U.K. ep has a catalouge number, the US does not, that sound right?

  • The Snake

  • We are happy with the astrological references here?

    THIS THREAD IS A WORK IN PROGRESS - I MAY ADD MORE AS I THINK OF IT


    Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

    Edited by - starmekitten on 04/19/2005 20:17:34

    kathryn
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    Posted - 04/19/2005 :  18:30:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    Wasn't it Echo Park who related the Manitoba story?


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    starmekitten
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    Posted - 04/19/2005 :  18:42:14  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    yes, it's referenced now to echo park in the db, I just don't know if thats correct etiquette?

    etiquette was never my strong point hehe


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    kathryn
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    Belgium
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    Posted - 04/19/2005 :  19:23:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    Echo met The Man more than once and sings
    on the song ("Manitoba"). I dunno how the forum big-wigs
    feel but that's good enough for little ole me.


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    Cult_Of_Frank
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    Posted - 04/19/2005 :  21:20:53  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    I might put it as Eric Potter so that non-forumites can still find that he's credited on the album and so is pretty knowledgable.


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    starmekitten
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    Posted - 04/19/2005 :  23:04:58  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Thank you Dean, I am grudgingly appreciative.
    I jest
    (maybe)
    haha no I do
    jest that is

    Anyway, mister Potter is now credited, Hermosa strand is now added.
    Just the Snake, confirmation of the lack of Nadine number (I can't find one anywhere and I looked) and a source for the Frank Black misprint interview!

    oh and the B sides if anyone can shed any light there.


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    Jordo
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    Posted - 04/19/2005 :  23:30:19  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Ludwidshafen

    All I know about this is the piano part during the chorus is the same (or very similar) as the piano part during "Pray for the Girls" when Frank starts going "in sleep we searched behind the sun..."

    I kind of assumed he took one from the other..



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    The Holiday Son
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  02:24:45  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by starmekitten
  • Massif Centrale

  • Two people have said that Frank has mentioned the misspelling in a German interview in 2004, do we know any more about this interview? What was said? Who the interview was for?


    The interview was from 11/11/03.
    Frank just said "It spelled wrong on the record.(...) I don't know why."
    It's a video interview that was linked on this forum.
    I saved it in mp3 so if you want the clip about MC I could send it to you.
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    starmekitten
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  04:04:52  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Thats ace! Your a star! You, I will love forever



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    fbc
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  10:11:10  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    'Snake Oil' is a term used for fake, fraudulent, and usually ineffective potions and nostrums. The expression is also applied metaphorically to any product with exaggerated marketing but questionable or unverifiable quality

    The term is used in many fields to denote something sold without consideration of its quality or its ability to fulfill its vendor's claims. This term originally applied to elixirs sold in traveling medicine shows. The salesmen would claim their elixir would cure just about any
    ailment that a potential customer could have.

    I read somewhere this song is a cover. If it's true,i can't track down the original anywhere
    The Nadine single just says - Snake oil copyright control.
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    fbc
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  10:18:14  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    (sorry if you have this info,tre)

    Take What You Want is a Reid Paley song
    down In The Hole was written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

    Edited by - fbc on 04/20/2005 10:20:26
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    fbc
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  10:23:08  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Will all your money
    Buy you forgiveness
    Keep you from sickness
    Or keep you from cold?
    Will all your money
    Keep you from madness
    Keep you from sadness
    When you're down in the hole?
    'Cause you'll be down in the gutter
    You'll be bummin' for cigarettes
    Bummin' for nylons
    In the American Zone
    You'll be down in the hole
    Yeah, down in the hole
    No escape from trouble
    Nowhere to go
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    starmekitten
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  10:45:09  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Thanks fbc, I don't know anything, am pretty ignorant in all these things so everything is welcome!


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    fbc
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  15:34:47  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    found this, but only FB would know if it's relevant , sorry.

    http://home.comcast.net/~burtdabard/snakeoil.html

    There's a group out there too called Snake Oil Medicine Show
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    kathryn
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    Belgium
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    Posted - 04/20/2005 :  19:27:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    Yeah, Frank. Can we get some help? If you have a moment,
    that is. Thanks!


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    tobafett
    * Dog in the Sand *

    USA
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    Posted - 04/21/2005 :  21:28:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by starmekitten
  • Nadine

  • The U.K. ep has a catalouge number, the US does not, that sound right?



    That's correct...my copy doesn't have a cat. # anywhere...

    great job on the db, smk!
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    starmekitten
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    Posted - 04/21/2005 :  22:26:22  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    thanks toba!

    listening to the clip (over and over :P) holiday son sent me (thank you again so much for that) I get this:

    Interviewer: Now coming back to this song because I like this song very much, the Massif Centrale...
    Frank: I spelled it wrong on the record, it's spelled wrong. I spelled it "Centrale" I don't know why
    Interviewer: Oh, but well it sounds nice
    Frank: Yeah.

    and I got:

    quote:
    Originally posted by frnck blck

    quote:
    Originally posted by Ten Percenter

    Hi Frank - great new album, and some very good reviews this time (ignore those fuckers who work at Q magazine). On the offchance that you hold court in Edinburgh, some more scraps for you:

    1. Is Snake Oil a cover of the Steve Earle song?
    2. Is the person commemorated in Ed is Dead and Adda Lee the same person? In fact, does this person appear in SMYT - Nadine, perhaps?
    3. You said that Blood on the Tracks was not your favourite Dylan album, which is your favourite Dylan record - Blonde on Blonde perchance?
    4. You have great taste by choosing Edinburgh to rehearse in! Any warm-up gigs planned - Charlie Thompson's Rush tribute band maybe?

    Great new album - cannot wait until the 26th!

    PS - Jonathan Ross said that he wanted you to appear on his radio show again after playing My Favorite Kiss last Saturday...


    No man is an island, unless he is in the bath



    snake is fb. no warm-up.. maybe open mic somewhere...
    b on b



    yet....

    http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7230
    lots of conjecture here, do we know for sure it's a cover anyone? I'm still digging?

    and I need a moderator to tell me if the chinese astrlogy should go in as well.

    thank you!


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    billgoodman
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    Posted - 04/21/2005 :  23:37:26  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
    snake oil is a cover right
    cause it says Copyright control instead of Spime Songs as the publisher


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    hammerhands
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    Posted - 11/01/2007 :  13:10:38  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Has this come up before?

    In Massif Centrale, the "Madames at night" sounds to me
    like Madame Someone maybe Zedni.
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    Mickey
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    Posted - 11/01/2007 :  14:01:47  Show Profile  Visit Mickey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by hammerhands

    Has this come up before?

    In Massif Centrale, the "Madames at night" sounds to me
    like Madame Someone maybe Zedni.



    I think it's "Madame's at nine"

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    MajorKey
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    Posted - 11/04/2007 :  16:54:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    "Snake Oil" as transcribed by moi.


    I need snake oil to rub my feet
    Because they're sore, walkin' the floor
    My face is pale, mind gone stale
    Law's on my tail and a wild wild woman
    Wants me put into jail

    chorus:
    Snake oil, snake oil
    Snake oil, snake oil
    Yeah, yeah, yeah
    I need snake oil

    I need snake oil to rub my head
    To ease the pain in my brain
    Society is not for me
    Got me drinking chablis with a wild wild woman
    Trying to put the clinch on me

    chorus
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